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    Sooo confused ...
    I just purchased a 2009 Genesis sedan and it has only 1 fob and emergency key.
    I want to purchase another and not pay the dealer $300 plus $70 programming (plus key blank & cutting a new key $100).
    Looking online (primarily ebay) I see lots of possibilities but have also heard lots of remotes not working.
    How can I feel comfortable that I am getting the right fob? Base it completely on the FCC ID? or is there a part number that I must match up?

    Most of the locksmiths around me no longer deal with the automotive remotes/keys.

    The emergency key seems to be less of an issue as you got to buy a blank and find someone to cut it.

    Anyone have other sources?


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    IIRC only the dealer can program a fob via live link to HMA via the internet. So go to the dealer and pay what they ask for a new key. Shop around or haggle with them to cut you a deal when you get an oil change.
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    I have been down this road and hereís my advice.

    Forget buying a used key fob. You cannot get a used key fob reprogramed for a Genesis. Any other Hyundai model key fob can be reprogramed, but a Genesis cannot and I suspect the Equus is the same as far as reprograming the fob. This is an added security feature for these models. (Call your dealer to verify what I have just stated).

    Each car can only have two fobs programed to it and you need one of the original fobs to program the new fob to the car and only your dealer can do the programing.

    Your dealerís service department can supply you with the exact P/N for your car. You need this if you are going to search for a new fob someplace other than the dealerís parts department. The reason you have to get the exact P/N is that there are different RF signal frequencies emitted by the fobs to control the locking / unlocking of the doors, trunk and security alarms. This frequency has to match the cars frequency or these functions will not work.

    MAKE SURE THE P/N IS AN EXACT MATCH BEFORE YOU PURCHASE A FOB FROM SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE DEALER.

    The hard key can be bought off of eBay (I got mine for $15 bucks). If you can find a locksmith that has a "sidewinder" key duplication machine they will be able to cut the key for you (I paid $35 to have the new key cut)
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    Thanks for the info. I keep on searching to avoid the $300 Hyundai dealer fob and limit my search to folk that will allow me to return if it can't be programmed.

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    Southern Boy pretty much nailed. I bought my car CPO and the dealer only had 1 key so they included a 2nd new key with my purchase. They had to order the key and I dropped the car for programming. I looked up the programming procedure on HMAservice.com and read what's in the manual. The car can only be programmed to 2 fobs (max.) and both fobs must be present whenever doing the programming. The programming must also be done by a dealer because they have to hook up the special Hyundai service laptop with their proprietary software to the car to perform the programming and enter some special ID # based on the VIN #.

    So you're pretty much at the mercy of your local dealers for programming at least IMHO, you might as well bite the bullet and just have the dealer do it. My sales guy did warn me they charge a flat $450 for new key + programming if I lose one
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    Quote Originally Posted by E43509 View Post
    Thanks for the info. I keep on searching to avoid the $300 Hyundai dealer fob and limit my search to folk that will allow me to return if it can't be programmed.
    Be advised if you purchase a fob from an off shore vendor it is a pain in the @ss to return it for a refund and once it has been programed it becomes useless to them.

    I also went down that road on EBay where I purchased a "new" fob for $127 from a company in South Korea that my dealer was able to program to start the car, but it had a different RF signal so none of the locks worked. They took it back which surprised me.

    It weighed 2.1 oz. and UPS wanted $86 dollars to ship it back because of customs requirements to allow it to enter the country.

    I wound up shipping it back USPS for $1.92, but it took a month of Sundays to get there and USPS canít provide you a tracking number on the package.

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    I am having the same problem with intermittent remote entry. After replacing batteries in the key fobs, the problem is still intermittent.

    A few days ago, not only was the remote entry not working but the pushbutton start did not work! After depressing the key fob buttons multiple times, the pushbutton start worked. The only trend that I can see from this intermittent problem is that it occurs when the weather turns much cooler. Since I live in Central Florida, we don't have many cold days. However I have noticed that my problem only occurs on mornings when we are down into the 30's.

    I'm planning to take to my dealership tomorrow...for documentation if nothing else. Has anyone gotten a resolution to this intermittent problem yet?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokinnukie View Post
    I am having the same problem with intermittent remote entry. After replacing batteries in the key fobs, the problem is still intermittent.

    A few days ago, not only was the remote entry not working but the pushbutton start did not work! After depressing the key fob buttons multiple times, the pushbutton start worked. The only trend that I can see from this intermittent problem is that it occurs when the weather turns much cooler. Since I live in Central Florida, we don't have many cold days. However I have noticed that my problem only occurs on mornings when we are down into the 30's.

    I'm planning to take to my dealership tomorrow...for documentation if nothing else. Has anyone gotten a resolution to this intermittent problem yet?

    Thanks in advance.
    same problem here. luckily, only one remote acts up, the other is fine. new batteries didn't seem to help either. but i did point the problem out to the dealer, but they couldnt get it to act up for them, so they told me to bring ther car back and leave it w/ them for an entire day. haven't did that yet, but bottom line, the FOB is a piece of sh##. hopefully they fix it.

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    Default Re: Replacement remote keyless entry fob

    In the case of intermittent problems, take a video and show it to the dealer.

    Much less frustration for you that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepcolor View Post
    same problem here. luckily, only one remote acts up, the other is fine. new batteries didn't seem to help either. but i did point the problem out to the dealer, but they couldnt get it to act up for them, so they told me to bring ther car back and leave it w/ them for an entire day. haven't did that yet, but bottom line, the FOB is a piece of sh##. hopefully they fix it.
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