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    You guys are not going to believe this.

    The V8 Sedan (and the V6 Coupe) uses the German made ZF 6 Speed Transmission. This is the same transmission that is used in many BMW's and Jaguars. This Transmission fluid is the M-1375.4 Fluid. Well, in reading posts in www.bobistheoilguy.com (go in that site and in search, enter 1375.4 fluid).
    I saw where guys were saying that the cost of this fluid at BMW dealers is out of this world, and they posted other fluids that meet the specs, and will work in the ZF 6 Speed.

    OK, I decided to phone my Hyundai Dealer Parts Department and spoke with my favorate parts guy. First off, he had trouble finding the fluid in his parts directory. (They never had a ZF problem or fluid change up to now) Once he did fined the fluid, he said he could not believe the cost.

    Are you ready? ARE YOU READY?

    $75.00 a quart! Yes, you see that correct. $75.00 a quart.

    I don't see me getting the transmission serviced before my owners manual says I have to get it serviced - If anything goes wrong, before the 10 year 100,000 mile warranty is up, I'll let Hyundai eat it. After that, I'll get it serviced using other fluids that meet the M-1375.4 specs.

    $75.00 a quart. I just can't believe it. (Cost is about the same at BMW and Jaguar Parts Departments).
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    Default Re: Price of ZF Transmission Fluid (CRAZY)

    i had my tranny drained and refilled...total; cost $1300
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    Default Re: Price of ZF Transmission Fluid (CRAZY)

    Can I ask why you had the tranny flushed? and what else was done?
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    Wally,

    I believe that Crupps car is the one that tried to drive through a flood and now has a new engine and had the transmission flushed out.

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    Default Re: Price of ZF Transmission Fluid (CRAZY)

    At the rate I'm putting on milage, I will reach the 100,000 mile mark in less then six years. (perhaps five)

    Going out to Roswell in a couple weeks, and when I return in mid December, I will have 20,000 miles on her since last mid January.

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    Default Re: Price of ZF Transmission Fluid (CRAZY)

    Quote Originally Posted by ctrcbob View Post
    At the rate I'm putting on milage, I will reach the 100,000 mile mark in less then six years. (perhaps five)

    Going out to Roswell in a couple weeks, and when I return in mid December, I will have 20,000 miles on her since last mid January.
    The short answer is that the fluid in the ZF does not need to be changed, unless something that is happening internally to cause the transmission to be problematic. Then the tranny needs to be serviced, at which time the fluid would be changed along with a host of other things involved. There is a reason there is no dipstick...it's not a drain and fill procedure. It's dangerous,messy, and you need the right tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrcbob View Post
    Wally,

    I believe that Crupps car is the one that tried to drive through a flood and now has a new engine and had the transmission flushed out.
    you are correct. mine was done as a precaution

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    Default Re: Price of ZF Transmission Fluid (CRAZY)

    The transmission in our V8 Sedans (and V6 Coupes) is the ZF 6HP26. I did some checking around in various ATF websites and found the following that meet the M-1375.4 specs.

    Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid.
    RedLine D4 ATF. Also Redline D6 ATF.
    Amalie Universal Synthetic ATF.
    Wolf's Head Super Universal Synthetic AFT.

    Note that Amalie and Wolf's Head are the same company.

    All the above cost MUCH less than the Hyundai M-1375.4 fluid. On the previous mentioned oil website, it was mentioned that BMW sells theirs for $16.00 a HALF liter, but they only have it in bulk, not in individual bottles. (this could be wrong).

    I have a few quarts of the Wolf's Head mentioned above, that I use in my Continental. Although I know it would work in the Genesis, I will just leave the Genesis alone as long as it is in warranty. After I pass the 100,000 mile mark, I will use one of the above products. I purchased the Wolf's Head for $3.79 a quart two years ago. Last I saw, it was selling at a neighborhood auto parts store (not a national chain) for just over $4.00 a quart.

    There is no reason for the Hyundai Genesis V6 (ZF) ATF Fluid to sell for $75.00 a quart, unless it has gold flakes floating in it. I hope my parts guy was wrong on the price.

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    Default Re: Price of ZF Transmission Fluid (CRAZY)

    Quote Originally Posted by ctrcbob View Post
    There is no reason for the Hyundai Genesis V6 (ZF) ATF Fluid to sell for $75.00 a quart, unless it has gold flakes floating in it. I hope my parts guy was wrong on the price.
    I believe you mean "V8". The V6 uses an Aisin transmission, which also uses synthetic (but a different synthetic according to owners manual), and also does not need to be changed under normal circumstances.

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    Default Re: Price of ZF Transmission Fluid (CRAZY)

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    Wow, I'm glad I went with the Aisin! That price is ridiculous though - I'd personally just get a fluid that is the spec Hyundai requires from a reputable company like Shell or Amsoil.

    edit - nevermind - I checked and Shell is the ZF supplier for this pricey oil!

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