Programming Navigation and Keyless entry

[ArchiChris]

Ok, I've looked in the manual and can find no reference to this issue. I live in Texas where there are many permutations of street names within many cities. On my Acura/Alpine system, the navi would ask for the state first, the city next, then the street and finally the address. On the Genesis, it wants the state first, then the STREET (!) then the address, and finally the city. This is so convoluted! For example, if I select "Texas" and then Washington as a street name , I may get 25 different permutations of "Washington" (St., Ave., Pl., Cir., Dr. . . well you get the point.) When I take a guess at which one it is, a list of cities that have that street will come up. If the suffix I've picked is the wrong one, I am unable to just back out to the list of suffixes/street types; no, it takes me all the way back to the original street entry page where I have to re-type the street name again. Very frustrating. (I mean really. . . when searching for an address within any other program [Google, Mapquest, etc], the city name is always asked prior to that of the street.) Am I missing something here?

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to program the keyless entry so that just one push of the buttons unlocks all of the doors?

[dataguy]

Assuming you're talking about the Technology Package GPS (and not the new touchscreen nav), voice command is the best way. You can't enter the city name first manually using the knob.

Hit the voice command button on the steering wheel and say either "enter state" or "enter city." It will prompt you for those and then only allow streets within that city.

Yes, it's stupid, but that's the only way to do it aside from knowing for sure or trial/error.

There's no known way to program the key fobs to unlock all doors at once. You can get your dealer to reprogram the door handle buttons to unlock all on the first press instead of the default two presses.

[OBCT]

Originally Posted by ArchiChris

Ok, I've looked in the manual and can find no reference to this issue. I live in Texas where there are many permutations of street names within many cities. On my Acura/Alpine system, the navi would ask for the state first, the city next, then the street and finally the address. On the Genesis, it wants the state first, then the STREET (!) then the address, and finally the city. This is so convoluted! For example, if I select "Texas" and then Washington as a street name , I may get 25 different permutations of "Washington" (St., Ave., Pl., Cir., Dr. . . well you get the point.) When I take a guess at which one it is, a list of cities that have that street will come up. If the suffix I've picked is the wrong one, I am unable to just back out to the list of suffixes/street types; no, it takes me all the way back to the original street entry page where I have to re-type the street name again. Very frustrating. (I mean really. . . when searching for an address within any other program [Google, Mapquest, etc], the city name is always asked prior to that of the street.) Am I missing something here?

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to program the keyless entry so that just one push of the buttons unlocks all of the doors?

RE: Navigation software.

Nope, you're right on the money. That's the way the navi is, like it or not. I've quickly learned that exact addresses (including exact spellings of suffixes, etc.) are a must for this system. The lack of intuitiveness is annoying, as are the illogically ordered data input steps, but you'll eventually get used to it. Attention to detail is a must, though.

[note: one suggestion is to double-check addresses on your favourite alternate mapping or directory software (I use Google Maps); for example, the difference between -- "1 St"; "1st St"; "First St" -- are minor, but significant. In my experience, the address is likely there, you just can't make any mistakes entering info along the way.]


RE: Reprogamming vehicle to unlock all doors with one botton press.

Yes, I've heard this is possible. Try reading the first 5-10 pages of the manual (I think it's very near the beginning somewhere -- at least, with the '09 model), and it should specifically mention this option. Then, tell your dealer about it. They may not believe you (if they haven't heard the request before), in which case, direct them to the corresponding page in the manual. They'll find a way to get it done.

[dataguy]

Originally Posted by OBCT

RE: Reprogamming vehicle to unlock all doors with one botton press.

Yes, I've heard this is possible. Try reading the first 5-10 pages of the manual (I think it's very near the beginning somewhere -- at least, with the '09 model), and it should specifically mention this option. Then, tell your dealer about it. They may not believe you (if they haven't heard the request before), in which case, direct them to the corresponding page in the manual. They'll find a way to get it done.

That works for the exterior door handle buttons but apparently not for the unlock button on the fobs. I had the door unlock behavior changed at the dealer and my fobs still need two presses to unlock all of the doors.

[ArchiChris]

Hey thanks for the info. I did ask my service manager to reprogram the locks and he looked at me as if I had a horn growing out of my head (I don't:O) Will try again.

[dataguy]

Originally Posted by ArchiChris

Hey thanks for the info. I did ask my service manager to reprogram the locks and he looked at me as if I had a horn growing out of my head (I don't:O) Will try again.

Mine did the same. I had to point to the reference in the owner's manual. Then they had to call the Hyundai Tech line to get instructions on how to do it.

[mcginnpm]

Originally Posted by OBCT

Try reading the first 5-10 pages of the manual (I think it's very near the beginning somewhere -- at least, with the '09 model), and it should specifically mention this option.

Page 4-7 says "NOTICE - An authorized HYUNDAI dealer can change the system to unlock all doors by one pushing the button in the driver’s outside door handle. If you want this feature, consult an authorized HYUNDAI dealer." (The grammer seems a bit off. I think they meant "one push of the the button")

Just curious..but what's so hard about pushing the button twice within 4 seconds to unlock all the doors and the trunk? Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine didn't want to shake the bottle of orange juice because it was too hard. I remember the old days, when I had to unlock my date's door by putting a key in the lock and turning it...and then having to do it AGAIN on the driver's side door. Man, it was rough back then!

[dataguy]

It's because passengers (including my wife and work colleagues) try to open the doors on the first unlock sound, right as I'm hitting the button the second time. That causes the doors with the handles being pulled to remain locked while the untouched doors are unlocked. That leads to another round of unlocking (pressing the button a third time re-locks the doors). In short, it takes up to four presses and some coordination to get everyone's door unlocked.

While unlocking the driver's door only on the first press is a safety feature, it's an annoyance when you regularly carry passengers.

[mcginnpm]

There's a simple solution to that problem. Just open the driver's door and push the unlock button on the door panel as you get into the car. No need to re-lock and then re-unlock the doors just because someone pulled their door handle early.

It's no different than the old days when I used to unlock my driver's-side door, get into the car, and lean accross to unlock the passenger's door. Of course back then I only had 4 channels on my TV and my "remote control" was "Honey, can you flip the channel to NBC for me, sweety?"

[ArchiChris]

What's the point of having the (supposed) convenience of being able to unlock everything from outside the car, just to have to open the door and do it "manually" from the inside? And no, it shouldn't be a problem hitting the button on the driver's door twice to open all of the doors, but the poster above is correct: the only time I consciously try to open all of the doors is when I have guests, and they do invariably pull the handle upon hearing the first click, which screws up the sequence.) THIS is when it makes more sense to just open the door and hit the "unlock" button, instead of everyone standing around waiting for the system to "reboot." Regarding the key fob, I choose to carry it in my satchel, so it's not typically handy.

Thanks everyone for all of the advice and help. This message board is such a great source of worthwhile information, (especially when the personnel at the dealership knows less than I.) I already have installed the KDM trunk lid, hood, and wheel emblems, and this weekend plan to tackle the installation of the KDM airbag cover. Thanks to this forum, I've received all of teh technical info I need to accomplish this.

[dataguy]

Originally Posted by mcginnpm

There's a simple solution to that problem. Just open the driver's door and push the unlock button on the door panel as you get into the car. No need to re-lock and then re-unlock the doors just because someone pulled their door handle early.

It's no different than the old days when I used to unlock my driver's-side door, get into the car, and lean accross to unlock the passenger's door. Of course back then I only had 4 channels on my TV and my "remote control" was "Honey, can you flip the channel to NBC for me, sweety?"

That's a good solution...if I want to revisit the days before keyless entry or once someone has messed up and pulled the handle too early. I had the dealer reprogram my door buttons because a.) the manual advertised they could, and b.) the default behavior is an annoyance to me and my passengers.

[mcginnpm]

Maybe my comments were misunderstood.

In my first comment I present a solution to the problem that requires only 1 more button push (the unlock button on the inside of the driver's door) which will unlock the door of all the people who pulled their handles before I could push my oustide door handle button a second time.

That certainly beats the alternative, which requires telling everyone not to touch their door handles and then 3 more button pushes (once to relock the doors, and then twice to unlock them again).

My second comment was meant as sarcasm. It reflects how lazy we've all become. What used to be either a non-existant feature, or a new and unique convenience, has become a "right" which, if it doesn't function exactly how we want it to, it is now an annoyance and a defect.

[realpix]

Originally Posted by dataguy

It's because passengers (including my wife and work colleagues) try to open the doors on the first unlock sound, right as I'm hitting the button the second time. That causes the doors with the handles being pulled to remain locked while the untouched doors are unlocked. That leads to another round of unlocking (pressing the button a third time re-locks the doors). In short, it takes up to four presses and some coordination to get everyone's door unlocked.

While unlocking the driver's door only on the first press is a safety feature, it's an annoyance when you regularly carry passengers.

I'd charge em a fee just to sit in the backseat of the Genesis!