Dynamic Edition Metal Accelerator Pedal - Questions

Before you read everything below or close this tab because there is too much to read, my main question is "Did different years/trim have different accelerator pedals in the US?" The Metal Accelerator Pedal unit is much larger than the USDM assembly on my car. All information and pics below.

Came across the Aluminum Pedals thread a while back and liked the look. Only issue I had was that the aluminum cover for the accelerator pedal is installed with adhesive tape. Seeing the brake pedal was a Hyundai part I thought maybe they offered one for the accelerator.

Did some searching and found that Hyundai actually offers a metal accelerator pedal, 32700-3M860. There is little info on this unit but it looks like it was only offered on the Dynamic Edition in Korea. The translated description on Tendown is "Genesis accelerator pedal chrome / Dynamic Edition". Always wanting to have rare parts that no one else has, I decided to go ahead and order it. It's not chrome like the details state but rather stainless steel.

It arrived yesterday but is not identical to the pedal in my car. It is larger due to some extra mechanical component/s on the top backside of the unit, with an additional electrical connection as well. Searched for the mating connection on the car for the additional plug but couldn't locate one. I decided not to install it without knowing what the extra connection is for and how it might effect the car.

Did different years/trim have different accelerator pedals in the US? Does anyone have a pedal in their car that looks like the unit in the pictures below? Thanks in advance guys.

Pics of the Metal Unit












Comparison Photos






OEM
Base where the plug is has the same Part Number - >PBT-GF30< Although the plug unit itself have different part numbers.



Metal





OEM
Pedal Bases have the same part number 32700-XXXXX >PP-GF30<



Metal

I wonder if the throttle mapping is more aggressive with this unit? Maybe that's what the extra gear is for.

327003M500 covers all BH from 2009 through 2012 (Probably further but my catalog stops there)

There is only one variant, and only in 2011: 327003M810 (Active Accel Pedal). No further details on what 'Active Accel' is.

Factory installed Sprint Booster?

84FordMan said:

327003M500 covers all BH from 2009 through 2012 (Probably further but my catalog stops there)

There is only one variant, and only in 2011: 327003M810 (Active Accel Pedal). No further details on what 'Active Accel' is.

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Thanks for some clarification on the differences between the pedals. Did a quick search for the 32700-3M810 "Active Accel" pedal. It looks like the pedal I ordered 32700-3M860 is just the 32700-3M810 unit with a stainless steel cover instead of the normal rubber.

Any idea if the unit will function normally if the "Active Accell" portion of the pedal is not plugged in?
What catalog are you using for reference?

I use the catalogs on http://www.jimellishyundaiparts.com/ when I don't have access to my local dealer's cats. Unfortunately neither actually explain what "Active Accel" is.

However, it appears to be a technology that Bosch has pioneered. The short of the long is the pedal is supposed to be able to deliver different haptic feedback to alert you of various situations (Proper shift point, speeding over the limit, pushes back when a coasting opportunity is detected).

I am not aware of this feature in any BH or VI, however there are a multitude of features Hyundai left out/turned off (Like cylinder deactivation or being able to manipulate the electric power steering for sport/eco modes), so it would not surprise me if they had the pedal produced (And installed in a small number) and never activated the feature.

Information on the Active Acceleration Feature

84FordMan said:

However, it appears to be a technology that Bosch has pioneered. The short of the long is the pedal is supposed to be able to deliver different haptic feedback to alert you of various situations (Proper shift point, speeding over the limit, pushes back when a coasting opportunity is detected).

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84FordMan your knowledge on Hyundais never ceases to amaze me.

I did some digging and noticed that the Bosch pedal feedback you are talking about only seemed to come about in late 2015 and 2016. Found this strange/interesting because the pedal was offered in the states only for 2011 but dynamic "metal" pedal appears with every "Dynamic Edition" offered in Korea. Info on this is hard to find but appears they started offering the "Dynamic Edition" models in 2013 with three trims, 3.3 Premium, 3.8 Exclusive, and Genesis Prada 3.8 (This is why the 3.8 Prada engine cover is super expensive.) Hyundai Motor Launches Genesis Dynamic Edition. And later offered a Black Dynamic Edition which appears to have transitioned into the Prada.

Review of Dynamic Edition:2013 Hyundai Genesis Dynamic Edition Test Drive You can see the metal pedal and the metal brake cover offered by Hyundai as well in a few shots.

Knowing the years for the Dynamic Edition I wanted to find what technologies were out at the time related to "Active Acceleration Pedal." Ended up finding two patents from Hyundai on pedal feedback technologies. First one submitted in 2009 ACCELERATOR PEDAL DEVICE WITH VARIABLE PEDAL EFFORT. Device varies pedal effort to help reduce risk of accidents by using springs and works with an ECU that detects vehicle speed and distance. Guessing they wanted to incorporate this technology with the Smart Cruise Control they offered in 2009 in Korea and 2011 in the US but must not have worked as well as they had hoped. Only say this because it disappeared from both market after 2009 only to reappear in 2011.

The second patent filed in 2013 Active control method of pedal effort for accelerator appears to be a refined version of the previous design and I could see this being housed inside the top part of the pedal I received. By skimming it is more sophisticated and compact using a motor, spring, and gears along with the control module. I believe this technology is what they currently use in the Centennial (Equus) at least in Korea. Hyundai Centennial Very Bottom of the page.

With all of that said I feel that the pedal can be used without plugging in the active acceleration module. Without being powered or receiving any data from the car it should function like a normal pedal. What are your thought on this after reading this 84FordMan?

It should be fairly easy to test as you can hook it up and see if you can modulate revs in neutral.

It's a separate module, with it's own 12V power, 5V signal and ground. The pedal itself should function perfectly fine.

In searching around from this thread, I happened to notice the Coupe accelerator pedal (Which also had a metal variant) appears to have the same mounting point and same pedal position sensor.

84FordMan said:

It's a separate module, with it's own 12V power, 5V signal and ground. The pedal itself should function perfectly fine.

In searching around from this thread, I happened to notice the Coupe accelerator pedal (Which also had a metal variant) appears to have the same mounting point and same pedal position sensor.

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I noticed that they looked identical but didn't look at the sensor, too bad this wasn't noticed before ordering the sedan version. The metal coupe accelerator pedal, 32700-2M500, would be a good swap and imagine it would work without any issues. Who wants to be the guinea pig???

Makes me want to order the metal dead rest pedal for the coupe, 32881-2M100, and modify it to fit the sedan. I may be the test subject here.

Going to test the pedal out later tonight if I get a chance.

Installation Complete

Had some time to install the pedal last night and there were zero issues, mounted just like the standard pedal without active accell. The larger pedal body up top housing the active accell mechanism did create a tighter fit for the carpet. Any wider/larger and it would cause the carpet to bulge. You can see just how much larger it is when viewing the before and after pics. Looking at the last image I feel the dead pedal needs an upgrade and am going to investigate modifying the metal coupe version.

Took it out for a test drive and will say that the pedal feel is different. It takes a bit more force to get the car to accelerate from a stop. Not sure if this is due to the active accell mechanism not functioning or simply because it has never been used before. It is hard to tell from the pics but the pedal appears to be slighter taller and may be sitting at a different angle which could be contributing to the extra pedal force required.

Before



After

Looks killer!

off topic... but damn that is one sexy car from the profile pics on http://www.jimellishyundaiparts.com/

84FordMan said:

I use the catalogs on http://www.jimellishyundaiparts.com/ when I don't have access to my local dealer's cats. Unfortunately neither actually explain what "Active Accel" is.

However, it appears to be a technology that Bosch has pioneered. The short of the long is the pedal is supposed to be able to deliver different haptic feedback to alert you of various situations (Proper shift point, speeding over the limit, pushes back when a coasting opportunity is detected).

I am not aware of this feature in any BH or VI, however there are a multitude of features Hyundai left out/turned off (Like cylinder deactivation or being able to manipulate the electric power steering for sport/eco modes), so it would not surprise me if they had the pedal produced (And installed in a small number) and never activated the feature.

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84FordMan said:

Looks killer!

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Thanks, I really like the way it looks as well but feel it would look even better with the normal size coupe pedal. Going to test a coupe pedal on my sedan this weekend and will let you guys know the results. Coupe pedals below with dead pedal for reference.



Coupe Accelerator Pedal




Coupe Dead Pedal

Great, now I need these for my "Dynamic Black Edition" grille...then the Prada lights...

Just stop.

Sidetracked for more Dynamic Edition parts

LandoAWD said:

Great, now I need these for my "Dynamic Black Edition" grille...then the Prada lights...

Just stop.

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Don't forget about the Dynamic Edition Front Calipers that say Genesis... Some info in this thread Brake Modifications mainly provided by none other than our resident expert 84FordMan
There is also a page on bmmotors that shows the stock brakes compared to the Dynamic Edition but I can't find the direct link at the moment.

Coupe and Sedan pedal comparisons

Pedal Research
Did some more research on the possibility of the coupe accelerator pedal being a direct swap into the sedan. What I found was promising. First off the pedals are the same size and have the same mechanism housing. Second the APS sensor plug has the same pinouts.

There are two differences between the two pedals.

One: The pedal pinouts to the harness are the same but where the wires connect to the cars main ECM are different. This should not be an issue because the signal goes directly from the pedal to the ECM and doesn't talk to any other sensor/s before getting there.

Two: The voltage read at closed throttle are different between the two. Also do not see this being an issue since the relationship of pedal pressure to APS output voltage is linear. Leads me to believe that the coupe's pedal stroke may be shorter or has a slightly stiffer spring for pedal resistance. You can see this by looking at the following images below.

Sedan Pedal



Coupe Pedal

xiaphin said:

Don't forget about the Dynamic Edition Front Calipers that say Genesis... Some info in this thread Brake Modifications mainly provided by none other than our resident expert 84FordMan
There is also a page on bmmotors that shows the stock brakes compared to the Dynamic Edition but I can't find the direct link at the moment.

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The Dynamic Edition calipers are the same ones as the 2013+ Equus, just minus the branding on the front. They are a monoblock 4 piston caliper made by Mando. You also get the Equus 14.2" rotors. I have a set of these calipers in my shed, they did not clear the Coupe 18s even with a 20mm spacer, require at least 19s to fit.

The brand whore in me would need the ones pictured.

LandoAWD said:

The brand whore in me would need the ones pictured.

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Looked into getting them but don't have enough backspacing to run them on my Infinitewerks. Put together a comparison chart comparing the dynamic edition/equus and coupe brembos to the OEM calipers, I can send it over if you like. Need more backspacing for the dynamic/equus caliper.

Didn't get a chance to test the coupe pedal this weekend due to a change in plans.