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What do you carry for self defense?

Nice pics you have there! Hopefully, I'll be able to make it on time, to an Air Show in Chicago this year.

Yes, I have both 80-400 and 70-200. Thinking about getting this 300mm f/2.8....rented it few weeks ago and AF was incredible fast with my D810.
D7100 is my backup body, in case I need to cover some short ranges and there isn't a time to change lenses.

I am an aviation enthusiast as well! I usually hang out around O'Hare Int. airport. These are mine, well.....just a few

Very nice! The 300 f2.8 is great - though likely to be replaced with an "E" version soon which should make good deals on the current model. What I really need for Airshows is the 500 f4 (especially on the full frame bodies). Though, the 300 f2.8 does well with all 3 TC's to get 420, 510 and 600 mm when needed.
 
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Very nice! The 300 f2.8 is great - though likely to be replaced with an "E" version soon which should make good deals on the current model. What I really need for Airshows is the 500 f4 (especially on the full frame bodies). Though, the 300 f2.8 does well with all 3 TC's to get 420, 510 and 600 mm when needed.

Yes, I know it works well with all 3 converters, hence I want this lens ;)

Anyways...happy shooting. With the camera, of course ;)
 
Yes, I know it works well with all 3 converters, hence I want this lens ;)

Anyways...happy shooting. With the camera, of course ;)

BTW - amazing amount of flex showing on those "plastic" wings in the 787 shots - those composite materials are pretty incredible. I have not flown in that plane yet!
 
I just would like to have one example of the "need" so I can beat the 'Brit' on the head with it ;), hence my original question...

I am not sure what you mean - but here goes.

I live in a "planned residential community" in Northern VA. Just this weekend, two people were arrested on terrorism charges in our community by the FBI. It made national news. One party was going to Syria to help the ISIS "cause". The other party was helping him do it.

Yesterday - Sunday - the Sheriff's dept. made a "bust" at a Latino "crash pad" across the street from my house. Not sure why.

Conclusion: Yes, we live in a dangerous society. Do I carry a weapon in my Genny? No. As someone pointed out, it has a big V8 - at least mine does.

Better to get away from a dangerous situation than to flash a gun. I have a VA concealed carry permit and a recently acquired Glock 43 small 9 mm. So far, I have never carried either one, but again our society is not so nice anymore.

Moral? Be prepared at home, or in your car, as you choose - I certainly wouldn't judge anybody. It's still a free country, I think.
 
I am not sure what you mean - but here goes.

I live in a "planned residential community" in Northern VA. Just this weekend, two people were arrested on terrorism charges in our community by the FBI. It made national news. One party was going to Syria to help the ISIS "cause". The other party was helping him do it.

Yesterday - Sunday - the Sheriff's dept. made a "bust" at a Latino "crash pad" across the street from my house. Not sure why.

Conclusion: Yes, we live in a dangerous society. Do I carry a weapon in my Genny? No. As someone pointed out, it has a big V8 - at least mine does.

Better to get away from a dangerous situation than to flash a gun. I have a VA concealed carry permit and a recently acquired Glock 43 small 9 mm. So far, I have never carried either one, but again our society is not so nice anymore.

Moral? Be prepared at home, or in your car, as you choose - I certainly wouldn't judge anybody. It's still a free country, I think.

Sorry if I was not clear, I am British who became an American, as you might be aware, in Britain guns are not carried around by the General public and most, if not all, accepts this fact without questioning it. I could only imagine how a visiting family member from overseas would react if they see me with a concealed weapon in the airport! I would suspect some of them would not get in the car unless I 'got rid of it'..lol...

For the longest time I struggled with this conflict, but come to see that protecting my home is my right , although the British side of my personality still views this as a 'privilege' of being an American!

I got a Gun due to an incident which happened last year to a close by community, somewhat similar to the examples you kindly provided, but in both cases getting a gun made sense, but still not not a good reason to carry it outside.

I am the one who mentioned, I would use my V8 to get away from a sticky situation. The question I posed (several times) , is what would be a true story that anyone might have, that make a good argument to start carrying a gun outside the home, without invoking the second amendment argument (the Mrs still struggles with the idea of having a fingerprinted Gun, locked in an easily accessible finger print safe!), examples would be 'I was in my car at night and this person started to threaten me and having a gun handy made feel safe' or 'I was in dark alley and this or that happened'...

In summery, I was just looking for good reason to start carrying a gun outside, beside just 'choice' or just for the hell of it. I hope that clarify my reasoning for the original question a bit better?
 
"Because sometimes the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun." Don't try to be a hero, but if you're caught in a situation where you cant get away, you'll be thankful you can at least fight.

I carry mine at small, enclosed places mostly. Movie theaters, jewelry stores, etc. places with small rooms and limited exits.

Also, there were a rash of break-ins at a company that a family member is responsible for. 250k square feet and a bunch of places to hide. Carrying there was a must until the police arrived.
 
Sorry if I was not clear, I am British who became an American, as you might be aware, in Britain guns are not carried around by the General public and most, if not all, accepts this fact without questioning it. I could only imagine how a visiting family member from overseas would react if they see me with a concealed weapon in the airport! I would suspect some of them would not get in the car unless I 'got rid of it'..lol...

For the longest time I struggled with this conflict, but come to see that protecting my home is my right , although the British side of my personality still views this as a 'privilege' of being an American!

I got a Gun due to an incident which happened last year to a close by community, somewhat similar to the examples you kindly provided, but in both cases getting a gun made sense, but still not not a good reason to carry it outside.

I am the one who mentioned, I would use my V8 to get away from a sticky situation. The question I posed (several times) , is what would be a true story that anyone might have, that make a good argument to start carrying a gun outside the home, without invoking the second amendment argument (the Mrs still struggles with the idea of having a fingerprinted Gun, locked in an easily accessible finger print safe!), examples would be 'I was in my car at night and this person started to threaten me and having a gun handy made feel safe' or 'I was in dark alley and this or that happened'...

In summery, I was just looking for good reason to start carrying a gun outside, beside just 'choice' or just for the hell of it. I hope that clarify my reasoning for the original question a bit better?

Here you go: http://abc13.com/archive/9291280/

This happened near one of my work locations on a route that I have actually used. Another case would be someone holding you up while pumping gas.
 
In summery, I was just looking for good reason to start carrying a gun outside, beside just 'choice' or just for the hell of it. I hope that clarify my reasoning for the original question a bit better?

A good reason is that the U.S. is rapidly taking on the attributes of a 3rd world country - same as with Europe right now. That's open borders for you.
 
Sorry if I was not clear, I am British who became an American, as you might be aware, in Britain guns are not carried around by the General public and most, if not all, accepts this fact without questioning it. I could only imagine how a visiting family member from overseas would react if they see me with a concealed weapon in the airport! I would suspect some of them would not get in the car unless I 'got rid of it'..lol...

For the longest time I struggled with this conflict, but come to see that protecting my home is my right , although the British side of my personality still views this as a 'privilege' of being an American!

I got a Gun due to an incident which happened last year to a close by community, somewhat similar to the examples you kindly provided, but in both cases getting a gun made sense, but still not not a good reason to carry it outside.

I am the one who mentioned, I would use my V8 to get away from a sticky situation. The question I posed (several times) , is what would be a true story that anyone might have, that make a good argument to start carrying a gun outside the home, without invoking the second amendment argument (the Mrs still struggles with the idea of having a fingerprinted Gun, locked in an easily accessible finger print safe!), examples would be 'I was in my car at night and this person started to threaten me and having a gun handy made feel safe' or 'I was in dark alley and this or that happened'...

In summery, I was just looking for good reason to start carrying a gun outside, beside just 'choice' or just for the hell of it. I hope that clarify my reasoning for the original question a bit better?


Here's an example from my own life. In 2008 I crashed a motorcycle and did all kinds of nonsense to my right leg. Long story short, it was tibial plateau fracture (more like explosion), displaced knee cap, severed artery, stretched peroneal nerve, severed ACL, PCL, and LCL. Compartment syndrome led to 70% chance of being amputated. 3 days in ICU, 9 days in "normal" hospital care, 4 weeks in a hospital bed in my living room, and 9 total surgeries over the course of 13 months. Luckily, they saved it.

My wife and I worked at the same Arena; I ran the event operations, she ran the hospitality operations. Our show-day hours were very early (4/5am) to very late (4/5am). Once I was able to return to work, I would frequently end up back in a wheelchair following a surgery.

After one particular show, during the winter months, my wife and I were going about our normal routine. I would sit in my wheelchair at the ADA entrance that was just off the side of an alleyway behind a few restaurants/bars, and she would come around with the car, park at the curb, help me get to the car (ever tried to use a wheelchair in snow?), then she'd load my chair into the trunk. On this occasion, it was beyond late, bordering on early. She had wheeled me to the car, I was standing with the passenger door open, and a panhandler came up behind her. In a moment of "whatever it takes to make him go away," she gave him her cash. He walked away. As soon as she turned her back, another guy saw her loading the wheelchair, knew I couldn't move, and he came up behind and acted like he wanted directions to the bus. She was scared and told him she couldn't help him, he smelled it on her and started yelling about "b----, I want some money, too." All I could do was hop on one foot and try not to fall on my ass in the snow, or worse, slip and put weight on my leg. It would have collapsed like a paperclip if I stepped down on it, and I would have left her even more exposed to danger by ending up a heap of helplessness on the ground. She told him the other guy got everything she had, and told him our security office was watching the camera right above us, he called her more names and went back to "why you treat me like that, I just wanted directions." We were very lucky that nothing happened. He could have done any manner of things in that moment, and my ability to protect my wife was effectively zero. I honestly feel that in that instance, had I been carrying and in my diminished mobility and his predatory behavior, I would have been justified in drawing it. You never know what happens once you introduce a weapon, but knowing in the back of my mind that I could have been in a front row seat to her being dragged off, beaten, stabbed, robbed, shot, raped, wherever your imagination takes you, I don't ever want that feeling in my life again.
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You never know what happens once you introduce a weapon, but knowing in the back of my mind that I could have been in a front row seat to her being dragged off, beaten, stabbed, robbed, shot, raped, wherever your imagination takes you, I don't ever want that feeling in my life again.
Been there, done that (attempted home invasion) - once you respond to an attack with a weapon - be it anything - just the surprise gets you 90% of the way in defending yourself.

Criminals have the same mentality as animals - they assume you are helpless prey. And, they are very, very stupid.
 
Glock 42 or S/W Bodyguard (both 380 acp) in my pocket, depending on what I am wearing. The Glock is a bit bigger and heavier.

In Texas, you do not need a CC permit to have a weapon in your vehicle. I carry a Bodyguard 38 in my truck.
 
All, thank you for making a compelling arguments and sharing your stories...
 
I carry at a minimum a my quick opening Kershaw-6074BLK-CQC-5K-,... usually it's my Benchmade Morpho 52.
Normal pistol carry is a M&P .380 in a DeSantis Insider holster. You can talk all the shit you want about carrying a .380... The fact is I carry it EVERYWHERE I go. You leave that heavy,uncomfortable full size pistol you tell everyone you carry everywhere either in your car or your safe.
NOBODY argues with 7 Gold Dot .380's.
My ideal carry pistol is a M&P Bodyguard .380 with a Galloway trigger and firing pin with Speer Gold Dots in a Desantis Insider Holster. You can be a skinny person and not show even when reaching for something in a t-shirt. you also have enough firepower to do what needs to get done.
 
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Glock 42 or S/W Bodyguard (both 380 acp) in my pocket, depending on what I am wearing. The Glock is a bit bigger and heavier.

In Texas, you do not need a CC permit to have a weapon in your vehicle. I carry a Bodyguard 38 in my truck.

What was GLOCK thinking when they made the G42? It's a
9mm that shoots a .380.
 
The governor of Virginia today (thurs) just restored all concealed carry reciprocity rules in the great Commonwealth of Virginia.
 
The governor of Virginia today (thurs) just restored all concealed carry reciprocity rules in the great Commonwealth of Virginia.
Was a stupid move in the first place. Like people with concealed carry are the problem. Good to hear your guys moron governor came to his senses
 
The governor of Virginia today (thurs) just restored all concealed carry reciprocity rules in the great Commonwealth of Virginia.

Thank God. Maybe I'll stop getting emails about it now lol
 
If you are going to carry firepower in your Genesis, then bring a matching firearm, one made in Korea.

Here is my Daewoo K200, outfitted with a Trijicon TA-11E scope.

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Or a classy HKP7, one of three models:

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God forbid, never a Glock :eek:
 
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