Interesting to hear your experiences Duaine. Yes, I had to drive it every day and just could'nt take it anymore and no one wanting to ride with me (or being too embarssed to take anyone along) defeated the whole purposes of a big sedan.
Good luck - time will tell it seems.
QUOTE=Duaine;22520]Well in thinking things through I want a smooth ride like right now. I am, however, waiting to see when the 2010 Genesis comes out if it has the rumored suspension improvements. If so I will see if the ride is much better first. If it is I will then see if I can have the updates done to my car whether I have to pay for it or not. If that isn't an option and if I trully like the 2010 Genesis ride compared to mine I am thinking of trading again and maybe also gain the smart cruise control, electronic parking brake, and a possible passneger cooled seat.
And if all that fails I am anxiously awaiting looking at the 2010
Buick Lacrosse.
www.buick.com/pages/mds/vehicles/futurelanding.do
Oh I know the Lacrosse only comes in as a mid size and with the largest engine I would loose about a 100 h.p. and about a second and a half to 60 mph.
Also I can't see the stereo system as being close to the Lexicon 17 speaker system in my Genesis. This
Buick however finally doesn't look like your grandparents
Buick. I think its the best looking
Buick to come along in a long time. And it does have some toys that my current Genesis does not, although the future Genesis may. Some nice features worth mentioning are an all new type of blue ambiant lighting throughout the interior. French seam stitched leather appointed seats, although I doubt the quality of my 4.6 leather. Of course it has bluetooth technology, quite tuning to reduce and block outside noise using a lamintated windshield, triple door seals and auto adjusting suspension. It has a cooled driver and passneger seat. A panaromic sun roof is available. Dual rear seat back DVD screens are available. It also has the
adaptive headlights.
For safety it also has the parking sensors with rear view camera. It also has blind zone alert radar to warn you when another vehicle is in your outside mirror blind spot. Also it has a headsup display on the windshield such as speedometer, turn signals, cruise control, and audio settings if you so choose to use it. Of course it has Onstar but that isn't a biggie for me. You can get it with AWD although from what I understand you can only get that in the mid level pkg. was the smaller motor. I don't know what that is however that could still turn out to be wrong. Also I am not mentioning all the features.
Now having said that it was GM cars that I had so much trouble with. My last GM owned car was a 1998 Chevy Malibu which had serious engine trouble at 22,000 miles. That is when I tried out Hyundai and have been trouble free since.
Those memories and the fact that this is an all new first year out
Buick is not a very comforting feeling. Still the cars style and features are pretty attractive. I think they have set a price of about $36000 for the fully loaded model.
At this point I am just a bit interested in it. My goal though is sticking with the Genesis. The thing I hate though is waiting to see if I can get the updated suspension and even if I can it will be when my car is probably a year old.
No disrespect is meant to anyone when I say my car's suspension isn't at all about one's perception. Those that want to debate a smooth vs. firm ride sure that is opinion. But what I and a few others are trying to describe is well beyond those boundaries (and I am describing the backseat ride mainly).
The reason that I can say this with confidence is not only do I think the ride is terrible but because out of the 20 or so people that have actually rode in our Genesis all of them in one way or another have hated it! Either by telling us directly or finding any reason under the sun not to ride with us when we offer to take our car. I mean its not even like a few like it and the rest hate it........its everyone. I have never in my life owned a vehicle that everyone refuses to ride in after their first ride and we're not talking some old Chevy Vega or something.
If you have this going on there will be absolutely no doubt in your mind about it and it's not even debatable in my mind.
Doug, I think I have some of the same thing that you had going on and you got tired of it way before me. But I only drive my car on weekends and only have 3800 miles on it (bought Nov. 08). Also I hadn't rode in the back seat until last weekend. I still love the car though and I am hoping for a solution for it the sooner the better. I just wanted to speak up and say those that are complaining and then have had someone jump on them and tell them its all about perception couldn't be experiancing what some of us are.
To be fair there doesn't seem to be to many serious complaints which is great for most owners! But I have saw in different reviews of owners who clearly don't have terrible issues like I do as describing the ride as acceptable. Maybe I'm wrong but that would seem to suggest a fair or passable ride. And then under cons you may see need to impove ride.
I will try and end my comments right here because I have already repeated myself to much. I did want to at least mention the 2010
Buick Lacrosse though and see what comments might come up although this forum is for the Genesis I know.[/QUOTE]
Anyway, I'm trying to get a feel for what's the real culprit with the suspension. I need to get it alone so that I can run some trips over some local bad roads. I'm trying to figure out is the suspension too overly sprung or is the suspension under damped. My best guess, so far, is underdamped. The run seems to have a problem with hitting the bump stops on large dips/dropoffs in pavement plus the rear end acts like it has old worn-out shocks(underdamped) allowing the rear of the car to travel up and down like a yo-yo. That's my perception. 
