Genesis G70 update

[leggy]

Not sure if this has been posted or if the source is credible

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/genesis-g70-update-1822103174

 

[Mcc]

This also
https://www.chicagoautoshow.com/vehicles-on-display/2019/genesis/g70/

 

[Mark_888]

I saw a review of the new Kia Stinger on Motorweek TV show this past weekend, and they were extremely complementary in their review. It had the same powertrain options as the G70, a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder that makes 252 horsepower, and a 3.3-liter twin-turbocharged V6 that makes 365 horsepower.

 

[GenesisYEG]

Genesis is definitely something special, particularly in Canada. I have been winning over lots of German-brand customers due to the Genesis Experience (hey, I've only personally owned German vehicles so they're good too!). Now I am just working on getting that glass box trailer over here to Edmonton and opening up a boutique store at a high end mall here in the Spring

Hope the mess in the US will get fixed so that the brand can be taken even more seriously.

 

[Mark_888]

Genesis is definitely something special, particularly in Canada. I have been winning over lots of German-brand customers due to the Genesis Experience (hey, I've only personally owned German vehicles so they're good too!). Now I am just working on getting that glass box trailer over here to Edmonton and opening up a boutique store at a high end mall here in the Spring

Hope the mess in the US will get fixed so that the brand can be taken even more seriously.

In the USA, manufacturers are not allowed to sell cars direct in most states, they must sell them through independent dealers (with some minor exceptions).

 

[Bamm1]

Not sure if this has been posted or if the source is credible

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/genesis-g70-update-1822103174

Not launching the G70 until November 2018 in the US is a terrible idea.

This also
https://www.chicagoautoshow.com/vehicles-on-display/2019/genesis/g70/

So the US model launch will take place at the Chicago Auto Show?

I am not sure why Hyundai chose to skip the LA Auto show and the NAIAS for the G70's US debut.

 

[GenesisYEG]

In the USA, manufacturers are not allowed to sell cars direct in most states, they must sell them through independent dealers (with some minor exceptions).

Yes, that is unfortunately the case. The dealerships sure like fighting against direct sales down there, hey?

 

[Mark_888]

Not launching the G70 until November 2018 in the US is a terrible idea.

That comment was based on "speculation" according to the person who said that.

So the US model launch will take place at the Chicago Auto Show? I am not sure why Hyundai choose to skip the LA Auto show and the NAIAS for the G70's US debut.

Not 100% sure if that is correct either, but even it is, those decisions are usually based on logistical issues, including when the car is available.

- - - Updated - - -

Yes, that is unfortunately the case. The dealerships sure like fighting against direct sales down there, hey?

Eventually that might change, especially for new companies like Tesla, which got special laws passed in many states (but not all) to allow them to sell direct.

 

[dengen]

"Not launching the G70 until November 2018 in the US is a terrible idea. "

That will be over a year after they announced. I for one, probably cant wait that long. Id probably goto bmw or benz in that case

 

[Mark_888]

That will be over a year after they announced. I for one, probably cant wait that long. Id probably goto bmw or benz in that case

Don't take that as a fact.

______________________________

Help support this site so it can continue supporting you!

 

[Bamm1]

That comment was based on "speculation" according to the person who said that.


Not 100% sure if that is correct either, but even it is, those decisions are usually based on logistical issues, including when the car is available.

- - - Updated - - -


Eventually that might change, especially for new companies like Tesla, which got special laws passed in many states (but not all) to allow them to sell direct.

I just giving my opinion of his opinon. Not taking it as fact. But we have pre-order's live in Canada and NOTHING down south here. So his opinion still plausible.


I would think it would be based on maximum media coverage. After skipping LA and Detroit I would have expected them to wait for New York. Chicago doesn't get the same coverage.

 

[Mcc]

But Chicago, next month, is where it is a debut vehicle

 

[Mark_888]

I just giving my opinion of his opinon. Not taking it as fact. But we have pre-order's live in Canada and NOTHING down south here. So his opinion still plausible.


I would think it would be based on maximum media coverage. After skipping LA and Detroit I would have expected them to wait for New York. Chicago doesn't get the same coverage.

Apparently, Hyundai Canada (or Genesis Canada) is taking the orders. That is not possible in the USA due to the way dealer networks work according to state laws in the USA. Don't jump to conclusions.

 

[GenesisYEG]

Apparently, Hyundai Canada (or Genesis Canada) is taking the orders. That is not possible in the USA due to the way dealer networks work according to state laws in the USA. Don't jump to conclusions.

Genesis Canada is taking pre-orders and it filters to the individual agency.

 

[Mark_888]

But Chicago, next month, is where it is a debut vehicle

The debut at an auto show is not the same as getting the cars to dealers in the US. But I don't think it will be November until they arrive in the US (unless they are also delayed everywhere for some unexpected reason).

Hyundai (and just about all other automakers) now release vehicles to the market when they are ready. It takes time and a lot of testing, and a lot of manufacturing planning and logistics, and government approvals (like EPA testing) to make that happen. They have every incentive to do it as fast as possible without compromising on quality and meeting government regulations.

- - - Updated - - -

Genesis Canada is taking pre-orders and it filters to the individual agency.

Yes, but that is not legal in the USA. They could record "interest" and pass it to USA dealers, but which one, since big cities have more than one dealer in the USA?

 

[GenesisYEG]

The debut at an auto show is not the same as getting the cars to dealers in the US. But I don't think it will be November until they arrive in the US (unless they are also delayed everywhere for some unexpected reason).

Hyundai (and just about all other automakers) now release vehicles to the market when they are ready. It takes time and a lot of testing, and a lot of manufacturing planning and logistics, and government approvals (like EPA testing) to make that happen. They have every incentive to do it as fast as possible without compromising on quality and meeting government regulations.

- - - Updated - - -


Yes, but that is not legal in the USA.

I know; just wanted to confirm what is going on here.

 

[Mcc]

Sure, that is correct. Of course on the other hand you should realize that that they will not get the cars to the dealers until the have a debut. That is happening in Chicago not waiting for NY. I was just commenting on the post that “After skipping LA and Detroit I would have expected them to wait for New York. Chicago doesn't get the same coverage.”

 

[Bamm1]

Sure, that is correct. Of course on the other hand you should realize that that they will not get the cars to the dealers until the have a debut. That is happening in Chicago not waiting for NY. I was just commenting on the post that “After skipping LA and Detroit I would have expected them to wait for New York. Chicago doesn't get the same coverage.”

I do not expect them to start selling the G70 before they have some big media launch event(s) in the US. My comments were more related to not maximizing media attention with their launch.

I am probably being too “glass half empty” after being soured by the Stinger’s US launch. When Kia launched the Stinger in the US they used prototypes and ROW cars. This lead to a huge amount of confusion about available features, amenities, exterior/interior colors, etc. on US models. Maybe Hyundai is waiting until US spec models are available to do the US launch. With Chicago being the earliest they could make that happen. Hopefully April is still the US on sale date target.

 

[Mark_888]

Maybe Hyundai is waiting until US spec models are available to do the US launch. With Chicago being the earliest they could make that happen.

I can't imagine bringing a prototype or Korean version of a car to a North American auto show for a USA launch, if they were different. That would create all kinds of problems, since some of the shows give out awards for Car of the Year, etc.

 

[Aquineas]

In the USA, manufacturers are not allowed to sell cars direct in most states, they must sell them through independent dealers (with some minor exceptions).

Yep, the extremely powerful dealership lobbyists have made sure that generous b̶r̶i̶b̶e̶s̶ contributions to their favorite ̶w̶h̶o̶r̶e̶s̶ politicians have those laws on the books for most states.