Please consider taking a break

[blnewto]

I don't mind the alert on the alert on the screen, but that warning ding often makes me think something serious just happened

 

[srobak]

For those who can't seem to keep it between the lines - something serious DID happen, needs attention and correction.

 

[Volfy]

For those who can't seem to keep it between the lines - something serious DID happen, needs attention and correction.

True. However, this "consider taking a break" alert can and does come up even if you just slightly wander side to side completely within your own lane. I've seen it pop up after I veered slightly (completely within my own lane) to avoid rough sections of pavement or road debris. THAT is annoying.

 

[David-R]

If I want help staying in my lane I’ll turn on lane keep assist. I’m an adult, I don’t need the car, with its flawed system, telling me to take a break.

 

[ominousone]

I turned mine off on my 2019 Sport 3.3T, right away.

 

[David-R]

I turned mine off on my 2019 Sport 3.3T, right away.

You turned off the take a break warning or lane keep assist?

 

[ominousone]

You turned off the take a break warning or lane keep assist?

Both. I'm perfectly capable of driving my own car. Been doin it for nearly 60 years.

 

[Mcc]

Both. I'm perfectly capable of driving my own car. Been doin it for nearly 60 years.

Actually you have several hundred computers controlling your car. You only have the illusion of being in complete control of it.

 

[Volfy]

Actually you have several hundred computers driving your car. You only have the illusion of being in complete control of it.

Hundreds of computer driving your car?! Nope. There are a myriad of systems performing very specific tasks. An example that comes remotely close to "driving the car" is the electrically-actuated steering. If you have the lane keep assist ON, then that system works in concert with the ADAS forward facing camera to keep the car centered in the lane you're on. I still wouldn't call that "driving your car", since again it is focused on performing one very specific task, which is overridden as soon as the driver turns the steering wheel to change lanes, take an exit, or bang into a retaining wall, etc. Same thing applies to cruise control.

Take the "drive-by-wire" throttle system. This is a typical servo system that strictly follows the driver's input command at the accelerator pedal and actuates the throttle body accordingly. While the mapping is not be 100% linear and will vary depending on the driving mode you set, the "computer" strictly follows what it was programming to output per the driver command. Only a layperson - or an idiot - would construe that as "computers driving your car".

Now then, once you get into self-driving systems like what Tesla is trying to dupe the public into accepting, then yeah, that's a different story. However, that is neither what @ominousone was talking about, nor most of us here in this G70 thread. We are not even talking things like adaptive cruise control. This here thread is discussing the "consider taking a break" alert the G70 pops up when we are actively driving the car.

 

[EdP]

Hundreds of computer driving your car?! Nope. There are a myriad of systems performing very specific tasks. An example that comes remotely close to "driving the car" is the electrically-actuated steering. If you have the lane keep assist ON, then that system works in concert with the ADAS forward facing camera to keep the car centered in the lane you're on. I still wouldn't call that "driving your car", since again it is focused on performing one very specific task, which is overridden as soon as the driver turns the steering wheel to change lanes, take an exit, or bang into a retaining wall, etc. Same thing applies to cruise control.

Take the "drive-by-wire" throttle system. This is a typical servo system that strictly follows the driver's input command at the accelerator pedal and actuates the throttle body accordingly. While the mapping is not be 100% linear and will vary depending on the driving mode you set, the "computer" strictly follows what it was programming to output per the driver command. Only a layperson - or an idiot - would construe that as "computers driving your car".

Now then, once you get into self-driving systems like what Tesla is trying to dupe the public into accepting, then yeah, that's a different story. However, that is neither what @ominousone was talking about, nor most of us here in this G70 thread. We are not even talking things like adaptive cruise control. This here thread is discussing the "consider taking a break" alert the G70 pops up when we are actively driving the car.

Semantics. You cannot drive your car without them. You bring up the throttle system. You'd push the pedal and nothing would happen.

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[Volfy]

Semantics. You cannot drive your car without them. You bring up the throttle system. You'd push the pedal and nothing would happen.

There is not a car I've driven where this is the case.

 

[David-R]

Both. I'm perfectly capable of driving my own car. Been doin it for nearly 60 years.

It can’t be turned off in the 25 G70

 

[EdP]

There is not a car I've driven where this is the case.

Your car has mechanical linkage like my old Chevy? Amazing.

 

[Volfy]

Your car has mechanical linkage like my old Chevy? Amazing.

That argument is UTTERLY pointless. Old car with mechanical linkages won't react to driver input either, if the engine is turned off. Same thing happens if the linkage is broken.

As long as the drive-by-wire system is working properly, the driver input to engine output "linkage" will be maintained. Electronics can be - and often are - far more reliable than mechanical ones. Of all the throttle-by-wire cars I've owned and driven, not a single malfunction ever occurred. I can't say that about the old cars with mechanical throttles.

This "myth" that electronics and computer systems in modern cars are somehow inferior in overall reliability is flat out WRONG. Technology infusion and computerization have made vehicles of today FAR more reliable than old cars of decades past. Not to mention the cars these days are far more efficient, powerful, more enjoyable to operate, and just plain work better.

Yeah... make a mechanical clunker like the old ways, and see how many folks rush and and buy one.

 

[Mcc]

Hundreds of computer driving your car?! Nope.

As @EdP said, you are just talking semantics but for your benefit so we don’t need to get into a discourse on drive by wire, I have modified my post. The fact is you are not solely in control of your car. The car's computer operates everything from air conditioning, radios, anti-lock braking systems, air bags, alarm systems, traction control, and cruise control, as well as electronic panels, automatic transmissions, and engine and emission controls. One cannot turn these computers off and manually do what they do. You cannot drive the can without them. That’s all I meant by my post.

 

[EdP]

That argument is UTTERLY pointless. Old car with mechanical linkages won't react to driver input either, if the engine is turned off.

If you want to nit pick, yes, it will. Push on the pedal and there will be a squirt of fuel into the carburetor

I think you missed the whole point of this discussion. Today's cars need electronics to be driven. .

 

[Volfy]

If you want to nit pick, yes, it will. Push on the pedal and there will be a squirt of fuel into the carburetor

I think you missed the whole point of this discussion. Today's cars need electronics to be driven. .

You are veering way off topic. This thread was strictly on the annoyance of the "Consider taking a break" warning... until @Mcc took a tangent on computers driving the car vs. the human driver. Then you went even way off course and started comparing carburetor and electronics.

Try your best to stay on topic. I know it can be difficult for some folks that can't focus.

NOBODY here is talking about squirting fuel into the carb.

 

[EdP]

You are veering way off topic. This thread was strictly on the annoyance of the "Consider taking a break" warning... until @Mcc took a tangent on computers driving the car vs. the human driver. Then you went even way off course and started comparing carburetor and electronics.

Try your best to stay on topic. I know it can be difficult for some folks that can't focus.

NOBODY here is talking about squirting fuel into the carb.

Sorry the fact annoyed you. You brought up that nothing would happen, but in fact it will.

 

[blnewto]

 

[Volfy]

Sorry the fact annoyed you. You brought up that nothing would happen, but in fact it will.

The curmudgeon modus operandi is about as laughable as the lack of practical knowledge of this platform.

Have a nice day.