Genesis Free NACS Adapter Thread: Post Your Updates

[EVsquatch]

IMO, the industry made a mistake having each EV manufacturer release their own unique NACS adapter (which needs to be approved by Tesla, further adding to the delays).

One of the EV manufacturers, Rivian, released a NACS adapter, and approved by Tesla, which would work with any CCS1 EV without any issues. Instead of having this design become the universal adapter, the industry chose that each EV manufacturer would come out with their own design, then go through the approval cycle with Tesla before releasing it to the public. IMO, this just added costs and delays to the process, with no value added. The Rivian adapter would have worked just fine with any other CCS1 EV, be it a 400V battery architecture or the 800V battery architecture that Hyundai/Kia/Genesis uses.

When one considers that one of the biggest complaints potential EV buyers have is the lack of charging stations, the industry could have solved this a lot quicker with a single universal adapter, approved by Tesla, rather than the slow rollout from each EV manufacturer of their own unique design. This approach just added costs and delays, with no value added.

The easiest solution would have been for Tesla to release a universal adapter certified for use on their network. I'm of the mindset that a slow rollout was intentional to reduce the congestion at SC locations and ease the transition of opening the network.

I decided to purchase the Ford adapter co designed with Lectron. Lectron already makes a robust and well reviewed adapter and their partnership with Ford took their design and made it even more robust. It is approved by Tesla and certified by an OEM which is something no third party adapter has. As a reminder, Tesla does not approve of ANY third party adapters being used on the SC network.

All of us have Ford to thank for even being in a position to use the network. Tesla, despite claiming the environmental ethos card for some time had no plans to open their network which offered a huge competitive edge over any other brand. They were taking advantage of Biden era NEVI funding by outfitting some chargers with "Magic Docks" to allow charging on CCS vehicles.

The only reason Tesla opened the network is because Ford did what no other OEM was willing to do. Go to EM and negotiate to accept the NACS design as the standard for their vehicles moving forward. This was both shocking and brilliant given CCS was the global standard and at the core of the investments under the Biden era nationwide DCFC infrastructure investments.

This put EM in an impossible position. His Trump card to keep the network closed had been to fall back on NACS being the true standard and that everyone needed to adopt it which nobody was willing to do because it put Tesla in the driver's seat.

Ford, and CEO Jim Farley, seeing an opportunity to solve one of the biggest problems holding back EV adoption, reliable and ubiquitous charging networks, swallowed his pride and went to Tesla with his tail between his legs and said what do we need to do to make this work?

EM was now boxed in and had no excuses. Brilliant. This setoff a chain reaction of OEMs fearing Ford would have a huge advantage and started negotiating their own deals. Ford then did the right thing and worked on a design of a certified adapter with a production partner (Lectron) that had high volume manufacturing capabilities and decided to make it free for their customers. It is incredibly robust and rated for 500 amps and 1000 volts. Ford set the standard here.

Tom from State of Charge did an interview on his YouTube channel with executives from Ford and Lectron about the partnership. The Ford adapter and the Lectron partnership should have been the standard or at the very least the blueprint for other OEMs to follow.

Instead many have chosen the route of internally producing the chargers or looking for cheap alternatives for production partners which has slowed down rollout. That means the networks keep opening up to different brands and owners of those brands don't have a certified adapter on hand to actually use the network. Sound familiar?

Nothing was stopping Genesis/Hyundai/Kia from reaching out to Lectron or A2Z or any other high volume partner and working on a certification process when the NACs adoption was announced. This would have likely led to much higher output of adapters that would be in hand when the network access was turned on but it would have meant higher cost.

I'm still waiting for my Genesis adapter but in the meantime I don't have a problem giving Ford my $$ to purchase their certified adapter given they are the reason we are even waiting for ours from Genesis.

 

[abh]

FYI All,
I just got off the phone with Genesis Customer Care (844-340-9741) after asking why, as of 30 April, I had not received a NACS adapter email from Genesis.
I referenced this earlier press release from Genesis "Genesis Motor America has recently announced that current and new Genesis EV owners who have purchased or leased their vehicle on or before January 31, 2025, will be able to request one complimentary NACS adapter (shipping included) through the MyGenesis owner portal by the end of April 2025."
After referencing and confirming my contact information, he read me an updated version of the above announcement which now cites by the end of May 2025 as the notification deadline.

FYI I called customer care the other day as well. When discussing the emails, they said they're sent in batches every Monday. Can't confirm this as I haven't received my email yet.

 

[gvjim]

given CCS was the global standard

That sentence should read that CCS is the global standard. NACS/J3400 uses a different physical plug, but electronically it uses the CCS protocol, not Tesla's earlier protocol which is based on CANBUS. Unless they've had a somewhat expensive upgrade installed, pre 2020 Tesla vehicles won't work with pure NACS/J3400 stations (for example, a NACS plug at an Ionna or EVgo station), and even with an adapter CCS vehicles won't work with older Tesla v1 and v2 stations, which don't support the CCS protocol. Certainly Jim Farley (Ford CEO) deserves praise, but I think even more credit goes to the EU regulators that forced Tesla to adopt the CCS protocol. Switching the physical connector is trivial compared to forcing Tesla to use a global standard protocol. Once forced to adopt the CCS protocol in the EU, Tesla went ahead and added support for this protocol in both vehicles and chargers in North America, setting the stage for this transition.

 

[EVsquatch]

That sentence should read that CCS is the global standard. NACS/J3400 uses a different physical plug, but electronically it uses the CCS protocol, not Tesla's earlier protocol which is based on CANBUS. Unless they've had a somewhat expensive upgrade installed, pre 2020 Tesla vehicles won't work with pure NACS/J3400 stations (for example, a NACS plug at an Ionna or EVgo station), and even with an adapter CCS vehicles won't work with older Tesla v1 and v2 stations, which don't support the CCS protocol. Certainly Jim Farley (Ford CEO) deserves praise, but I think even more credit goes to the EU regulators that forced Tesla to adopt the CCS protocol. Switching the physical connector is trivial compared to forcing Tesla to use a global standard protocol. Once forced to adopt the CCS protocol in the EU, Tesla went ahead and added support for this protocol in both vehicles and chargers in North America, setting the stage for this transition.

Yes, a lot of this is driven by EU regulators forcing the standard. EU for those that don't know, uses a CCS2 standard and Tesla vehicles in Europe are actually CCS. Isn't that ironic?

CCS2 is a better design and frankly we should have been using it in the US.

 

[EVsquatch]

FYI I called customer care the other day as well. When discussing the emails, they said they're sent in batches every Monday. Can't confirm this as I haven't received my email yet.

This is a really easy theory to test.

Has anyone received their Genesis emails on a day of the week other than Monday? Please post if you have.

 

[Richard MG]

Genesis Canada has been absolutely silent on this topic. I hope that they are similarly working toward an end of April distribution.

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I literally just got off the phone with Genesis Canada and they told me that the NACS adapters will not be distributed for free in Canada. They are just now becoming available for purchase at Genesis dealers. What can I say beyond that I am again disappointed with Genesis Canada.

 

[baker961]

This is a really easy theory to test.

Has anyone received their Genesis emails on a day of the week other than Monday? Please post if you have.

I received mine on Tuesday at 1:33 PM Pacific Standard Time.

 

[MBGV60]

I received mine on Tuesday at 1:33 PM Pacific Standard Time.

Tuesday 4/29 @ 1:30 PT

 

[Hanabanana]

Where are A2Z and Lectron adapters, any adapters, manufactured?

 

[noremacnova]

Where are A2Z and Lectron adapters, any adapters, manufactured?

The Hyundai adapter being distributed to owners and available from parts departments now is made in Korea.

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[gvjim]

Where are A2Z and Lectron adapters, any adapters, manufactured?

A2Z is a Canadian company, based in Montreal. Their website says "proudly designed in North America", but doesn't say anything about where they are actually manufactured. Ok, I went and looked at the actual unit, it says it is made in China.

 

[Cabbage]

Absolutely nothing about location of manufacture on my Lectron adapter, but a search of the internet says they are made in China.

 

[Hanabanana]

Just FYI re the email notifications...we have a 2023 Ioniq 6 Limited, bought October '23...and a 2025 GV60 Advanced, January '25...and we have received no communications about adapters for either.

 

[ideutsch]

Where are A2Z and Lectron adapters, any adapters, manufactured?

The SuperTap is designed, assembled, and tested in the US with customer support also based in the US.

 

[EVsquatch]

I received mine on Tuesday at 1:33 PM Pacific Standard Time.

Thanks for posting. Looks like the information that emails only go out on Monday is bunk.

 

[Banzai253]

This is a really easy theory to test.

Has anyone received their Genesis emails on a day of the week other than Monday? Please post if you have.

Tuesday 16:32 EDT

 

[gknyce]

Tuesday 16:32 EDT

Strong argument for Tuesdays, however (even with a small reporting sample)

 

[baker961]

Has anyone heard how they plan to update the map and charging system so it shows Tesla chargers we can use?

 

[gknyce]

Has anyone heard how they plan to update the map and charging system so it shows Tesla chargers we can use?

The recent / April maps update now shows (specific) Tesla charging stations as being available to us.... I'm not aware of any charging system updates required, only an appropriate adapter and the Tesla superchargers to allow our cars to charge, which I believe is in place already

 

[Gen-EV]

The recent / April maps update now shows (specific) Tesla charging stations as being available to us.... I'm not aware of any charging system updates required, only an appropriate adapter and the Tesla superchargers to allow our cars to charge, which I believe is in place already

Weird...
There seems to be a difference in the maps update that went out to the GV60s and the G80 EVs. In my update I now have the ability to toggle Tesla stations on and off like the other charging brands. Even when I do, none of the tesla stations show up in my car's navigation. I double and triple checked with the Tesla app and PlugShare and there are Tesla stations that are compatible with Genesis and allow non-Tesla to charge that should be showing in my car's navigation.
I'm not a software engineer but it seems the baseline map should be consistent between vehicles.