$1000 servicing suggested for 20k miles maintenance

[viky1712]

Hi,

I recently had my car in for fixes to transfer case and had the 20k miles maintenance done as well.

The dealer suggested the following 2 services:

- Fuel Induction Service ($475) : Fuel induction service is recommended every 20,000 miles on direct injected vehicles to maintain power and fuel economy
This service increases fuel economy, reduces emissions, and restores lost power. A specialized tool applies a combination of highly effective cleaners to do a complete and thorough cleaning of deposits from the fuel injectors, fuel lines, and intake valves and ports. Complete removal of combustion chamber deposits corrects the necessary balance of fuel and air needed for optimal performance and improved throttle response.

- Throttle Body Service ($399) : Throttle body cleaning service is recommended every 20,000 miles to prevent carbon buildup from restricting movement of the throttle plate
The Throttle Body is a housing that is bolted on to the entrance of the intake manifold and contains the round opening or throttle bore that contains the round metal throttle blade that controls the amount of air that is allowed to enter a gasoline engine.

Totaling the servicing cost to ~$1100

Are these services required? Or is the dealer trying to fleece?

Also to a noob like me. The charges seem pretty high. Are these charges as per industry standard?

Appreciate any kind of feedback.

Thanks.

 

[EdP]

Hi,

I recently had my car in for fixes to transfer case and had the 20k miles maintenance done as well.

The dealer suggested the following 2 services:

- Fuel Induction Service ($475) : Fuel induction service is recommended every 20,000 miles on direct injected vehicles to maintain power and fuel economy
This service increases fuel economy, reduces emissions, and restores lost power. A specialized tool applies a combination of highly effective cleaners to do a complete and thorough cleaning of deposits from the fuel injectors, fuel lines, and intake valves and ports. Complete removal of combustion chamber deposits corrects the necessary balance of fuel and air needed for optimal performance and improved throttle response.

- Throttle Body Service ($399) : Throttle body cleaning service is recommended every 20,000 miles to prevent carbon buildup from restricting movement of the throttle plate
The Throttle Body is a housing that is bolted on to the entrance of the intake manifold and contains the round opening or throttle bore that contains the round metal throttle blade that controls the amount of air that is allowed to enter a gasoline engine.

Totaling the servicing cost to ~$1100

Are these services required? Or is the dealer trying to fleece?

Also to a noob like me. The charges seem pretty high. Are these charges as per industry standard?

Appreciate any kind of feedback.

Thanks.

I've had three direct injection engines that exceeded 50,000 miles with out those services. According to your dealer, I would have had each done twice by that time. All I know is, my cars ran just fine and I have $6600 in a CD getting interest in my account, not the dealers.

 

[Alfer]

Scam. Avoid all the dealer "maintenance" add on crap they always love to push. Use Top Tier gas when you can and maybe every 5,000 miles run some Seafoam cleaner in tank when you fill up.

 

[srobak]

THat's all fleece. STP Fuel System Cleaner accomplishes exactly the same thing. Pour a bottle or two in a full tank and you are good to go.

 

[FastCars]

None of that stuff is part of the recommended maintenance, so NOT required to maintain the warranty !
If you are having throttle response issues or sluggish starting might be worthwile, but if you use good gas you should get to 50/60k miles easy before it would make any difference. At 20k miles your dealer is trying to pad the bill !!!

 

[deilenberger]

The dealer is a real sleazeball. He's feeding you BS. The Genesis GV70 engines besides having direct injection, also have "port" injection just to eliminate any need for anything like what he's trying to peddle on you. The V6 has two port injectors (upstream of the intake valves) that add a spray of gasoline to the incoming air charge to the cylinders, with the specific intent to clean any carbon buildup on the intake valves. Cleaning the throttle body is best done manually if at all, unless you have a PCV failure the vehicle is very unlikely to need it.

This was a problem with cars designed about 15 years ago with the early direct injection systems. It wasn't a 20,000-mile interval that was recommended - it was 50-100,000 miles depending on the engine and the manufacturer. It can be an issue on my 2011 Porsche Cayenne (I've had it cleaned once in 111,000 miles - at about 60,000 miles when the engine was apart to repair some damage caused by doing a recall.. long story..) On a turbo-charged engine this isn't a real critical thing since the turbos will push the incoming air right around any crud on the back of the valves. I might have mine done again at 120,000 miles.

This is no longer a problem with modern engines, and the dealer knows it, but he sees you as a soft-touch and wants to make some money on the free maintenance you're getting as a purchaser.