2026 GV60 has the NACS charging port - issues using EA and Telsa chargers

[WLA]

A few questions:
1) Will Genesis give us an adapter to charge at the EA CCS 350 kW chargers? Will use of the adapter allow for a fast charge, 10 % to 80% in 18 minutes?
2) Will we limited by Tesla to only use a few designated charging stations as is now the case? Or can we use all of the Telsa charging stations.
Dealing with the problem that the charging port on the GV60 is on the wrong side of the car for using a Telsa charger; what was Genesis thinking.
When will Tesla's chargers with the longer charger cables replace the short cable chargers?

Thanks

 

[gvjim]

You should double check, but I believe Genesis does give you an adapter to use CCS chargers.

The adapter is actually the ONLY way you'll be able to charge faster than about 125kw. Well, that's not 100% true - if you manage to find a NACS port at a non Tesla station (for example Ionna or EVgo) then you can charge at full speed. But Tesla stations are still limited to 400v, so the charging speed of our 800v vehicles is going to be limited at Tesla Superchargers by the ability of the car to convert 400v to 800v. This won't change until Tesla deploys 800v stations. Even when they do, it will likely take a decade for those to be widely deployed.

Even if you have a 2026 GV60 with a NACS port, you are still limited to the same subset of available Tesla superchargers. I'm not sure I would call it "few", a fairly large percentage of Superchargers is available. But it's the exact same subset whether you've got a 2026 GV60 or an earlier model that requires an adapter. Note that older V2 Superchargers are not technically capable of connecting to a car that uses CCS protocol, these older Superchargers will never be able to work with anything other than Tesla vehicles unless Tesla rips out the V2 hardware and replaces it with newer hardware. And they don't seem to do that - they add new stations but almost never upgrade older stations.

As for upgrading stations with longer cables, only Tesla knows when or if that will happen. But so far they don't seem to have any interest in upgrading older stations - whether to increase charging speeds or to add longer cables. All of the new stations have longer cables, but not the older stations. By the way, you can identify the newer stations in the Tesla app by looking for stations that are listed as 325kw instead of 250kw. The 325kw stations all have the longer cables.

 

[Cabbage]

The adapter is actually the ONLY way you'll be able to charge faster than about 125kw. Well, that's not 100% true - if you manage to find a NACS port at a non Tesla station (for example Ionna or EVgo) then you can charge at full speed. But Tesla stations are still limited to 400v, so the charging speed of our 800v vehicles is going to be limited at Tesla Superchargers by the ability of the car to convert 400v to 800v. This won't change until Tesla deploys 800v stations. Even when they do, it will likely take a decade for those to be widely deployed.

According to the Tesla Supercharger map as well as PlugShare, the true V4 charger in Redwood City, CA is now open to NACS partners. Assuming that is accurate, we will hopefully start seeing more V4 chargers around the country. I'm hoping that all new installations will be true V4 but we won't know until we start seeing new stations open. And who knows how fast they will convert V3.5 to V4 Superchargers.

 

[gvjim]

According to the Tesla Supercharger map as well as PlugShare, the true V4 charger in Redwood City, CA is now open to NACS partners.

Woo-hoo!

Did you actually see this yourself on PlugShare? I looked just now on the PlugShare web site and it still says Tesla Only, and there are no check-ins from non-Tesla drivers. However, both the Tesla web site and the Tesla app do show that it is open to anyone. Ok, I just checked the PlugShare app and that also shows Tesla only. I assume that is out-of-date info, but I wonder why it showed as available for you?

In any case, hopefully someone with an EGMP vehicle will rush over there and try it, and report back on PlugShare (and/or here). I'd do it myself but 397 miles is a bit more than a hop, skip and a jump. Tempting, though.

I'm hoping that all new installations will be true V4

That would be nice and probably eventually will happen, but since this station opened 2-3 months ago Tesla has opened dozens of stations, and as far as I know none of them are V4. Maybe they'll pick up the pace by next summer? In the meantime, Ionna and other are opening a lot of stations, all of which are 1000v. Check out the Network Architecture channel on YouTube.

And who knows how fast they will convert V3.5 to V4 Superchargers.

Tesla rarely upgrades existing stations - they just add new. There are still lots of v2 and v3.0 stations.