6 months of mushy driving :(

[COToad]

It was snow tire install day today. The first corner almost brought a tear to my eye, the handling is all mush now. Looking forward to April, when I'll switch back over and it reminds me of why I bought this car.

 

[CVDH-TN]

What winter tires did you get?
I have been pretty happy about how my Pirelli Sottozero 3 feel. It is not as good as the Pilot Sport for sure but they don't feel like previous winter tires I had in the past. I had them on my BMW 128i and liked them a lot. To the point that these 6 months did not feel bad at all (unlike the Dunlop Winter Sport 3D I had on it prior). BTW I used to be in Colorado (Erie) and they did all right on the front range all winter (even going to ski in Eldora, they were getting me up there without any issue).

 

[Slip_Angle]

I see snow and it makes me happy having AWD. So much fun!

 

[CVDH-TN]

I see snow and it makes me happy having AWD. So much fun!

Honestly, RWD with decent winter tires is not bad at all (and potentially more fun with no one around).

 

[Slip_Angle]

Honestly, RWD with decent winter tires is not bad at all (and potentially more fun with no one around).

Sorry man but AWD with my winters is WAAAY more fun that RWD. I get the best of both worlds with drift mode and then power through anything with dynamic AWD. It's amazing.

I get the RWD can be more fun in summer but winter is where AWD kills it.

 

[COToad]

What winter tires did you get?
I have been pretty happy about how my Pirelli Sottozero 3 feel. It is not as good as the Pilot Sport for sure but they don't feel like previous winter tires I had in the past. I had them on my BMW 128i and liked them a lot. To the point that these 6 months did not feel bad at all (unlike the Dunlop Winter Sport 3D I had on it prior). BTW I used to be in Colorado (Erie) and they did all right on the front range all winter (even going to ski in Eldora, they were getting me up there without any issue).

I got the Sottozero 3's as well. They are not bad tires, I look forward to driving them in the snow, but when it is dry I will always miss the Pilot Sports. I ran all seasons last year and was not happy with stopping when slick so I am looking forward to the snow/ice performance of these.

I grew up in Boulder and learned to ski at Eldora, great memories there.

 

[COToad]

At least my timing was right, we got 6" of snow yesterday.

 

[Ace Deprave]

I see snow and it makes me happy having AWD. So much fun!

I bought a RWD in July, and now after being hit with back to back hurricanes, have decided to relocate to the Denver area. Hoping winter tires will be good enough, I'm regretting not getting AWD now.

 

[canucklehead604]

^ do you have a Sport? if so, you'll have the LSD which helps. i've had no problems with the combo of RWD/snow tires/LSD/weight in the trunk/full-ish tank of gas. that said, i don't have a crazy steep driveway and don't need to commute up long steep hills, so that helps. but we do have plenty of hilly terrain in general - far from a flat area.

 

[Ace Deprave]

^ do you have a Sport? if so, you'll have the LSD which helps. i've had no problems with the combo of RWD/snow tires/LSD/weight in the trunk/full-ish tank of gas. that said, i don't have a crazy steep driveway and don't need to commute up long steep hills, so that helps. but we do have plenty of hilly terrain in general - far from a flat area.

It's a 2019 Dynamic Edition, which is almost just like the Sport.

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[COToad]

I bought a RWD in July, and now after being hit with back to back hurricanes, have decided to relocate to the Denver area. Hoping winter tires will be good enough, I'm regretting not getting AWD now.

As long as you have dedicated snow tires you should do okay 95% of the time. The traction control is excellent and Denver does not live in snow all winter long. A few heavy storms each year and mostly you'll be driving on dry roads.

 

[exbimmer]

Can you have studded tires in your state?

 

[Ace Deprave]

As long as you have dedicated snow tires you should do okay 95% of the time. The traction control is excellent and Denver does not live in snow all winter long. A few heavy storms each year and mostly you'll be driving on dry roads.

Yeah, I lived in Denver from 1994 to 2002, so I'm familiar with the general state of the roads...but I mostly had FWD or AWD cars. I did have a RWD car when I initially moved there, but it was a horrible 1981 Buick Century. I've moved up a couple of tax brackets since then!

I'll hopefully be working remotely most of the time anyway.

 

[COToad]

Can you have studded tires in your state?

yes, I had them on a Fiero I had back in the 90s. Decided I would never use them again.

 

[COToad]

Yeah, I lived in Denver from 1994 to 2002, so I'm familiar with the general state of the roads...but I mostly had FWD or AWD cars. I did have a RWD car when I initially moved there, but it was a horrible 1981 Buick Century. I've moved up a couple of tax brackets since then!

I'll hopefully be working remotely most of the time anyway.

That Century was probably as good in the snow as my 84 Thunderbird, brake balance was so bad that I couldn't leave it in drive coming to a stop on snow. The rears would keep pushing with the fronts locked up. If I forgot to put it in neutral I would end up in the middle of the intersection. Glad to be up a few tax brackets myself!

 

[TO Genesis]

Installed mine and my wife's on Saturday - Sottozero 3's for my G70 and Toyo Observe GSi-HP's on her Q60. This will be my second winter with the Sottozeros although as I'm working from home due to Covid, neither of the cars will see much action this winter. Amazing how much nicer the ride is in the Q60 on non-runflat tires.

 

[canucklehead604]

^ interestingly, Genesis Canada gave me a free upgrade to Conti TS850P run flats when i ordered my factory accessory winter tire/wheels. i had ordered the Conti SI, but they gave me the TS850P for the same price. the TS850P is 50%+ more expensive, so i was fine with the swap. BUT, i was not thrilled to get RF tires. i agree they ride quite harsh, even though the 18" tire has more sidewall.

i didn't complain since part of me does like the idea of RF tires for winter travel. if it saves me being stranded roadside during a snowstorm, i'm in. note that my car does not have a spare - i just have the silly 'tire mobility kit'. which is a separate gripe of mine...

 

[PFWiz]

I lucked out. For some unknown reason my G80 Sport runs the same size tires as my Chevrolet SSs did. So now I have a set of Sottozero 3s with almost no miles on them sitting in my garage. Good snow tires with HTrac ought to make the G80 a bulldozer in the snow.....

 

[Truck Norris]

I have Michelin Alpin PA4's on my 3.3t Sport AWD. The tire is great, can still handle a corner. The car is the best winter driving vehicle I've ever driven, 4WD half ton truck included. With LSD & AWD + snow tires the car is unstoppable and feels "solid" on the road and can go through anything up until (and slightly past) the ground clearance of the car. This is from experience with Canadian winters and a steep driveway that is long.