Burger Motorsports JB4 high performance tuner now available for the Genesis 3.3TT

[Terry @ BMS]

WMI results are insane, and we've got a fully PNP WMI injection nozzle system coming soon you guys will love.

 

[Toddasaurus]

WMI results are insane, and we've got a fully PNP WMI injection nozzle system coming soon you guys will love.

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Dang, that's outstanding. I've never messed with water injection, but it's something I want to do on my next car (ie the G70).

Thanks for posting the results so far.

 

[1FstYota]

Numbers look awesome, anyone find the limit to the rods and what not yet?

More of a question for @Terry @ BMS can JB4 support flex fuel sensor, and what kinda numbers are you seeing on some e85 or e98, I'm sure injectors can't support e85?

 

[Terry @ BMS]

Numbers look awesome, anyone find the limit to the rods and what not yet?

More of a question for @Terry @ BMS can JB4 support flex fuel sensor, and what kinda numbers are you seeing on some e85 or e98, I'm sure injectors can't support e85?

Right now we only support 30% E85 mixtures. But, we'll see where the platform heads. We'll have a physical ethanol sensor kit for the cars in the future, and the JB4 also runs a virtual ethanol sensor logic we're developing and testing now.

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[joschneider]

With access to only 91 octane, and a desert climate what options do I have in terms of available maps that I could safely run? Wondering if it would be worth it for me

 

[Terry @ BMS]

Map2 is normally workable on 91 octane, but once we see some JB4 logs we can confirm and provide a custom map if needed.

 

[joschneider]

Map2 is normally workable on 91 octane, but once we see some JB4 logs we can confirm and provide a custom map if needed.

do you have dyno runs of map1 vs map2?

 

[Terry @ BMS]

Yes check our website, lots of dynos here.

2018 Kia Stinger JB4 Tuner | BurgerTuning.com

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[dareckibmw]

do you have dyno runs of map1 vs map2?

I have dyno my G80 sport (same engine as G70 v6 3.3tt) ....1st. pull (*) Map0 - 2nd. pull Map1 - 3rd. Map2

(*) - 1st. run it shows HP not WHP like 2nd, and 3rd. so the gain in HP/TQ is huge - around 65 HP and 130 TQ

 

[Terry @ BMS]

Looks like tires bouncing on the dyno! Have JB4 logs of the runs? I can use those to provide tuning advice on how to get power up.

 

[dareckibmw]

Looks like tires bouncing on the dyno! Have JB4 logs of the runs? I can use those to provide tuning advice on how to get power up.

It could be those old tires, yes....we talked about it and you saw those logs. I think I posted them in Stinger's forum or N54tech.

Lets wait a few months, then I'll add fuel wires and I already have a new set of wheels with Michelin PS4s's. Once it gets warmer in Illinois, I'll run some tests with E85+93 and put it on dyno again.

 

[Toddasaurus]

@Terry @ BMS - Any updates on water injection for the G70? Wondering if you have an ETA on when you'll be officially selling your kit that works with the JB4.

Thanks for all the stuff and things.

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[Terry @ BMS]

Yes, as far as we know the Stinger kit is fully compatible. Feel free to email me on it if you have any questions, as I don't check this page as often as I should! terry@burgertuning.com

 

[MG8]

WMI results are insane, and we've got a fully PNP WMI injection nozzle system coming soon you guys will love.

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man can you guys do something for a 5.0 rspec?

 

[Beefer]

This is probably more for Terry @ BMS. I plan on ordering the JB4 for my 3.3T in a few weeks.

My plan is to run Map 2...on 93 fuel. I don't want to get into wires...or anything fancy...just the JB4. It seems like Map 2 will give me all that I need. Not sure what is required to run on Map 3...but I assume something other than just 93 fuel.

With all that said...I will try to reach out to Terry directly with some questions...since I am super anal and want to make sure I order everything I need.

Have there been any G70 3.3T owners out there who have done this? Anything I need to know or worry about?

Thank you.

 

[Beefer]

I am really starting to do my research...and the whole spark plug thing is a royal PITFA. Not sure if I want to attempt doing it myself. The biggest issue is the middle plug on the passenger side. There are videos, etc...but I have no clue what I am doing...never done it before. Worried I will break something.

I have gone to 3 local shops thus far...and all of them want over $300 to install the plugs. WTF ?!?! I am not paying that...not worth it to me. I thought I could pay someone like $75 or something. Jeez.

So...unless I find someone who can knock this out without removing that whole manifold thingee...I might not do this at all

Now...to get a bit more specific...the G70 is different than the Stinger in the following way. In the below picture of a Stinger...I have 2 arrows pointing at the bolts you have to loosen to remove the rubber housing. This is if you want to do it the long way. The Stinger simply has flat-head screws that loosen. The G70 is different !!! It is more advanced. It uses those screws that you torque down and the head breaks off once tightened. So no way to remove it without clipping it off. Then you have to get new ones to replace them. Dear Lord.

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[Toddasaurus]

I am really starting to do my research...and the whole spark plug thing is a royal PITFA. Not sure if I want to attempt doing it myself. The biggest issue is the middle plug on the passenger side. There are videos, etc...but I have no clue what I am doing...never done it before. Worried I will break something.

I have gone to 3 local shops thus far...and all of them want over $300 to install the plugs. WTF ?!?! I am not paying that...not worth it to me. I thought I could pay someone like $75 or something. Jeez.

So...unless I find someone who can knock this out without removing that whole manifold thingee...I might not do this at all

Now...to get a bit more specific...the G70 is different than the Stinger in the following way. In the below picture of a Stinger...I have 2 arrows pointing at the bolts you have to loosen to remove the rubber housing. This is if you want to do it the long way. The Stinger simply has flat-head screws that loosen. The G70 is different !!! It is more advanced. It uses those screws that you torque down and the head breaks off once tightened. So no way to remove it without clipping it off. Then you have to get new ones to replace them. Dear Lord.

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Hah, really? That's dumb. I wonder why they changed that...

Looks like you'd probably have to remove the throttle body to get the intake piping off if you didn't want to ruin the OEM clamps. Even so, if you did take them off, you can replace them with non-OEM hose clamps that are similar to the Stinger's - you can get them from any auto parts store. But, considering you're leasing I wouldn't blame you if you didn't want to go around putting on different parts like that.

Either way, good luck and let us know what you end up doing! And I agree with you, $300 is ridiculous for changing out plugs, even though this is much more complicated than inline engines' plugs.

 

[NLJ]

I don't believe you need to change the plugs unless you're revving to redline between gears consistently.
If you just want low end pep, you should be fine!
Has anyone blown plugs without doing launches and hard pulls?

 

[Toddasaurus]

I don't believe you need to change the plugs unless you're revving to redline between gears consistently.
If you just want low end pep, you should be fine!
Has anyone blown plugs without doing launches and hard pulls?

Would be interested to see Dyno charts comparing OEM gapped plugs vs the smaller gap.

 

[NLJ]

Would be interested to see Dyno charts comparing OEM gapped plugs vs the smaller gap.

Would be nice.
Were the blown plugs when the tuner was in early stages?