Car Play (Genesis 3.3T Sport 2019)

[g_769756]

I'm considering the purchase of a G70 3.3T sport and I just needed confirmation that car play does indeed work wirelessly. I was watching a review of the car and the reviewer said to "plug the phone" to use car play. Now I was a little shocked as my grandfather's old entry level Chrystler has it. I just need to be reassured that it has an up-to-date car play version that can be connected to wirelessly and not some archaic car play version.

 

[Brock Samson]

I'm considering the purchase of a G70 3.3T sport and I just needed confirmation that car play does indeed work wirelessly. I was watching a review of the car and the reviewer said to "plug the phone" to use car play. Now I was a little shocked as my grandfather's old entry level Chrystler has it. I just need to be reassured that it has an up-to-date car play version that can be connected to wirelessly and not some archaic car play version.

I'm not 100% certain but I don't think it has the hardware for wireless. I think you do have to plug it.

 

[Glaz]

I'm considering the purchase of a G70 3.3T sport and I just needed confirmation that car play does indeed work wirelessly. I was watching a review of the car and the reviewer said to "plug the phone" to use car play. Now I was a little shocked as my grandfather's old entry level Chrystler has it. I just need to be reassured that it has an up-to-date car play version that can be connected to wirelessly and not some archaic car play version.

All Hyundai’s/Genesis/Kia that are equipped with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto have to be plugged in via USB to use the feature. Sadly they don’t have the hardware or equipment like how BMW does.

 

[Mcc]

I'm considering the purchase of a G70 3.3T sport and I just needed confirmation that car play does indeed work wirelessly. I was watching a review of the car and the reviewer said to "plug the phone" to use car play. Now I was a little shocked as my grandfather's old entry level Chrystler has it. I just need to be reassured that it has an up-to-date car play version that can be connected to wirelessly and not some archaic car play version.

I doubt your grandfather’s entry level could do CarPlay wirelessly. The Genesis CAN stream music and phone wirelessly via Bluetooth. Don’t confuse this with CarPlay.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

There is no such thing as "some archaic car play version" at this point as the technology is still new, There are only a hand full of vehicles that offer "Wireless" carplay, and in some cases (BMW and MBZ) it requires a subscription to work. Both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi are required for Wireless carplay.

At this point only a hand full of car makers are offering Wireless Carplay in their vehicles, and at that only select models.

if your sole purchase decision is based off carplay being wireless, then sorry you will be out of luck with 99.8% of the makes and models for sale.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

I doubt your grandfather’s entry level could do CarPlay wirelessly. The Genesis CAN stream music and phone wirelessly via Bluetooth. Don’t confuse this with CarPlay.

point of fact, direct from Apple's website.. these are the only makes/models with Wireless Carplay as of Q2 2018, and all require a subscription of $80 or more per year:

• BMW 2017 5 Series
• BMW 2018 3 Series
• Mercedes 2018 A-Class (Q3 2018)

 

[devellis]

For Android Auto, there are still only a handful of phones that can handle it. So even if a car has it, those who prefer Android (88% in Q2, 2018) would still be mostly out of luck. It'll be a while before wireless versions of these services have widespread infrastructure in place in both vehicles and phones. But we're headed that way, for sure. Genesis isn't behind the curve on this, though.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

For Android Auto, there are still only a handful of phones that can handle it. So even if a car has it, those who prefer Android (88% in Q2, 2018)

all depends on whose survey you read I guess.

 

[tymless]

For Android Auto, there are still only a handful of phones that can handle it. So even if a car has it, those who prefer Android (88% in Q2, 2018) would still be mostly out of luck. It'll be a while before wireless versions of these services have widespread infrastructure in place in both vehicles and phones. But we're headed that way, for sure. Genesis isn't behind the curve on this, though.

Assuming the car has the hardware to support it, any android phone running the newest update (Android 9.0 P) will work wirelessly. If your phone has the older 8.0 version, then it is limited to Google's phones (Pixel and Nexus series). So that increases the list of compatible phones by a large margin.

 

[Beefer]

THE CAR DOES NOT support wireless Car Play or wireless Android Auto. Hard USB only. You can close this thread.

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[devellis]

Assuming the car has the hardware to support it, any android phone running the newest update (Android 9.0 P) will work wirelessly. If your phone has the older 8.0 version, then it is limited to Google's phones (Pixel and Nexus series). So that increases the list of compatible phones by a large margin.

Right. But only a few Nexus and other Google-sourced phones have the hardware at this point.

 

[devellis]

After I said:

"...those who prefer Android (88% in Q2, 2018)..."

Mr. Incredible said:

all depends on whose survey you read I guess.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I looked again and the percentages are all over the map. My bad.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

After I said:

"...those who prefer Android (88% in Q2, 2018)..."

Mr. Incredible said:

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I looked again and the percentages are all over the map. My bad.

to each their own.. I've used both, prefer iOS over Android for a multitude of reasons.. I work in IT, specifically Data Encryption and PCI Security, Androids phones are no where near as secure as iOS, they are open source and vulnerable to hacking and malware, of course a jail broken iPhone is as well, but in its factory settings not even close, iOS is far more secure.

 

[Mcc]

Right. But only a few Nexus and other Google-sourced phones have the hardware at this point.

Nope Wrong.
If you’ve got a Pixel, Pixel 2, or 2015 Nexus phone, you now have Android Auto wireless support. You almost certainly do not have the necessary hardware in your car to do wireless projection. A cable has been required because the phone runs Auto and just shows the UI on a screen — the car doesn’t have anything to do with it. Android Auto’s wireless mode is not operating over Bluetooth like phone calls and media streaming. There’s nowhere near enough bandwidth in Bluetooth to run Android Auto, so the feature used Wi-Fi to communicate with the display.
No (few) cars roll off the assembly line with support for wireless mode in Android Auto, and only a handful of costly third-party head units have it. You’re looking at a minimum of $600 for a head unit with support for wireless mode, and that’s before installation costs. Newer cars won’t even accept non-OEM head units without a lot of expensive

 

[devellis]

Nope Wrong.
If you’ve got a Pixel, Pixel 2, or 2015 Nexus phone, you now have Android Auto wireless support. You almost certainly do not have the necessary hardware in your car to do wireless projection. A cable has been required because the phone runs Auto and just shows the UI on a screen — the car doesn’t have anything to do with it. Android Auto’s wireless mode is not operating over Bluetooth like phone calls and media streaming. There’s nowhere near enough bandwidth in Bluetooth to run Android Auto, so the feature used Wi-Fi to communicate with the display.
No (few) cars roll off the assembly line with support for wireless mode in Android Auto, and only a handful of costly third-party head units have it. You’re looking at a minimum of $600 for a head unit with support for wireless mode, and that’s before installation costs. Newer cars won’t even accept non-OEM head units without a lot of expensive

I defer to your greater expertise. Thanks for setting the record straight.

 

[Mad_Max]

I think (without knowing, just guessing) the only way for Carplay to work wirelessly is you have to have a WiFi hotspot running on your car. The phone would connect to the Car node through that connection and you can communicate through that wifi. Biggest issue for most is in order to have a Wifi connection on and fully functional in the car you need a 4g service up and running, which requires a subscription. It would be nice if they didn't pigeonhole you like that, in that if the hardware was there for WiFi, you should be able to connect the phone regardless of the 4g connection to the Internet. In that the Phone would be talking over TCP/IP to the car. I've never played with a car that had a 4g hotspot, so I just don't know how accurate any of that speculation is.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

I think (without knowing, just guessing) the only way for Carplay to work wirelessly is you have to have a WiFi hotspot running on your car. The phone would connect to the Car node through that connection and you can communicate through that wifi. Biggest issue for most is in order to have a Wifi connection on and fully functional in the car you need a 4g service up and running, which requires a subscription. It would be nice if they didn't pigeonhole you like that, in that if the hardware was there for WiFi, you should be able to connect the phone regardless of the 4g connection to the Internet. In that the Phone would be talking over TCP/IP to the car. I've never played with a car that had a 4g hotspot, so I just don't know how accurate any of that speculation is.

it would be nice if these manufacturers would allow the vehicles to accept a 3rd party hotspot or wifi router.

I have a Verizon Hot Spot with unlimited data, it would be great if I could use it to connect to the car, to my phone, create my own rolling hot spot/wif-fi network and have all the goodies work in the car and external devices, rear screens for streaming, phone, laptops for passengers to use, wireless carplay, etc.

Those vehicles that have "mobile hot-spot" require you to use their system to tie in everything, no support for a third party hot spot.

 

[Edmguy]

I think OP is confusing carplay with simple bluetooth.

As others have mentioned, carplay and android auto both require being plugged in. I have only used android auto in mine but do like it and just picked up a small cord that fits in the little compartment when not being used.