Considering a GV70

[dtech]

Hi - just thought I'd ask for some feedback about purchasing a GV70, I live in a city where the closet Genesis dealer is 220 miles away, there is a Hyundai dealer so checking to see if the 3 yr services could be done there. Toyota also has a dealer so considering Highlander and a Crown Signia hybrid. I currently own a 2013 Sante Fe 2.0T which has been reliable but the Theta II was a problematic issue, at 90k miles it does burn some oil despite using syn and adhering to the required maintenance.
I've heard the 2.5T is greatly improved, also a concern with dealership 220 miles away are recalls and warranty work. Anyone on here have a similar situation with respect to dealership distance. Also any comments on the vehicle choices I mentioned above would be welcome. Was also considering a Lexus 550GX but it's more vehicle than I need and dealers are selling at list, I'm assuming Genesis like Hyundais can be had a good discounts from MSRP.
thanks

 

[enrique_7812x]

I have a 2022 GV70 SP 2.5T and absolutely love it, and have had very few issues with it. Dealers in 2022 were asking $5k to $10k over MSRP, and owners were lucky to get them at MSRP. All service, including recalls, warranty, and 3-year free maintenance work has been done by the combo Hyundai/Genesis dealership where I bought it, which is closest to me.
Anyone can do normal maintenance on your car, including you, just keep receipts for all work done. However, the 3-year FREE maintenance, recall and warranty work MUST be done by a Genesis dealership. Hyundai won't touch it. Due to the 220 miles to the closest Genesis dealership for you, I would pass on buying one.

 

[dtech]

I have a 2022 GV70 SP 2.5T and absolutely love it, and have had very few issues with it. Dealers in 2022 were asking $5k to $10k over MSRP, and owners were lucky to get them at MSRP. All service, including recalls, warranty, and 3-year free maintenance work has been done by the combo Hyundai/Genesis dealership where I bought it, which is closest to me.
Anyone can do normal maintenance on your car, including you, just keep receipts for all work done. However, the 3-year FREE maintenance, recall and warranty work MUST be done by a Genesis dealership. Hyundai won't touch it. Due to the 220 miles to the closest Genesis dealership for you, I would pass on buying one.

one dealer said hyundai won't service it, another said that Hyundai will , I pay and then submit to Genesis for reimbursement. I've done all my service on cars save for wheel alignments for over 59 yrs, at 73 yrs old and lots of arthritic joints time to quit. BTW - what are the OCI on the 2.5T, on the crappy 2.0T Theta II the oci was 3.5 for severe, 5k for non severe, glad mine didn;t seize up, just beginning to use some oil. Seems like Hyundai makes better engines nowadays,
thanks

 

[dhuhtala]

What is OCI?

The 2.5T engine is being used in all their vehicles now because as I understand it, this engine fixes the carbon build-up issues the 2.0T and 2.4 engines had for the last 10 years - which is what leads to a knock sensor failure, which leads to engine failure. I had the 2.0T in my Optima replaced at 190,000 KM - under warranty! So I bought another HKG vehicle - I have the '23. I don't think there have been any significant improvements between the '22 and '25 models though...still having rear differential problems unfortunately, but they have been covered under warranty so far - I'm a bit concerned when my warranty is done (I'm halfway there). I plan on keeping this another 10 years.

 

[enrique_7812x]

one dealer said hyundai won't service it, another said that Hyundai will , I pay and then submit to Genesis for reimbursement. I've done all my service on cars save for wheel alignments for over 59 yrs, at 73 yrs old and lots of arthritic joints time to quit. BTW - what are the OCI on the 2.5T, on the crappy 2.0T Theta II the oci was 3.5 for severe, 5k for non severe, glad mine didn;t seize up, just beginning to use some oil. Seems like Hyundai makes better engines nowadays,
thanks

Oil change interval under the Normal Schedule is every 8,000 miles or 12 months (every 5,000 miles or 6 months under the Severe Schedule). After 100k or 10 years, they recommend using the Severe Schedule.

 

[steveinarizona]

If the local Hyundai dealership can't service your Genesis, I would look elsewhere if there is a reasonable alternative. I think my GV60P is a great car and I love it and would still buy it again BUT I live four miles from the my Genesis service center and, after a year and a half, my dealership has been excellent.

There have been a number of recalls for my car but they weren't ones that stopped me from driving and my dealer always gave me a loaner. As good as the vehicles are, they do tend to come with a bunch of early ownership issues. See the Genesis national rankings for luxury car reliability. Not a problem in my case but might be in yours. Also, even if the Hyundai dealership can service your Genesis, it probably won't provide loaners so you will be losing that part of the ownership experience and you will be left having to use another vehicle (if you own such) or renting one.

The Highlander gets very good reviews, especially the hybrid. Toyota has really figured out the traditional hybrid. If you can't get the GV70 officially serviced, take a look at the top of the line Highlander. Traditionally, top of the line Toyotas are very close to Lexus (see for example the Lexus ES350 which was essentially a top of the line Toyota Avalon) so the Highlander might be very close to the GV70. The Highlander is bigger than the GV70 but if you want smaller, the regular (non plugin) hybrid Rav4 also gets good reviews and the top of the line may be close to the GV70 (I haven't compared specs).

Personally, I would still prefer a Genesis GV70 BUT not if I couldn't get it serviced reasonably nearby.

 

[dtech]

What is OCI?

The 2.5T engine is being used in all their vehicles now because as I understand it, this engine fixes the carbon build-up issues the 2.0T and 2.4 engines had for the last 10 years - which is what leads to a knock sensor failure, which leads to engine failure. I had the 2.0T in my Optima replaced at 190,000 KM - under warranty! So I bought another HKG vehicle - I have the '23. I don't think there have been any significant improvements between the '22 and '25 models though...still having rear differential problems unfortunately, but they have been covered under warranty so far - I'm a bit concerned when my warranty is done (I'm halfway there). I plan on keeping this another 10 years.

the Theta II most common problem was crank bearings failing, Hyundai was forced to provide lifetime replacements and was fined millions by the US DOJ , the Theta II failures have cost Hyundai billions in repairs and they are still replacing engines.

 

[dtech]

thanks all , good info. For decades yrs I drove Saabs which needed some warranty repairs, it is a PIA to have to go to the dealer for recalls/warranty work but with the complexity of modern cars it's a reality that can't be ignored. I Drive a 2019 Ford Ranger that has had no recalls and no warranty work. Even Toyota is having to deal with more recalls of late.

 

[One2Go]

I have a 2024 GV70 3.5T Sport AWD bought in December 2023. Just finished my 3rd factory recall. For 220mi to the nearest dealer, I seriously encourage you to go to another vehicle brand. No Hyundai dealer will service your car as Genesis has established requirements for servicing their cars. My closest dealer is 30 miles away and it is a hassle to find even a decent dealer. One of the biggest complaint at this forum is finding a decent dealer with a service department. So even if you find a dealer that is closer, there is no guarantee that he is decent and competent.

To get my factory recalls done I brought the car into the dealer I bought it from in June only to find out they wouldn't guarantee that I could wait for it, when I declined the factory recall and just had them do the maintenance, I had to sign a document that basically saved their asses in case the defect that the factory recall would correct, could cause some damage. The earliest loaner I could get was in November.

Finally, just search for the differential problem that the GV70 AWD has had for a few years and Genesis can't figure out how to fix it, besides replacing the differential. Some people here with 40k miles are om their 3rd differential.

Having said all of that I like my GV70 very much and it runs just fine, with no differential problem, knock, knock, having all factory recalls done and an adjustment to the sunroof that caused noise at speeds of 60mph.

 

[dtech]

I have a 2024 GV70 3.5T Sport AWD bought in December 2023. Just finished my 3rd factory recall. For 220mi to the nearest dealer, I seriously encourage you to go to another vehicle brand. No Hyundai dealer will service your car as Genesis has established requirements for servicing their cars. My closest dealer is 30 miles away and it is a hassle to find even a decent dealer. One of the biggest complaint at this forum is finding a decent dealer with a service department. So even if you find a dealer that is closer, there is no guarantee that he is decent and competent.

To get my factory recalls done I brought the car into the dealer I bought it from in June only to find out they wouldn't guarantee that I could wait for it, when I declined the factory recall and just had them do the maintenance, I had to sign a document that basically saved their asses in case the defect that the factory recall would correct, could cause some damage. The earliest loaner I could get was in November.

Finally, just search for the differential problem that the GV70 AWD has had for a few years and Genesis can't figure out how to fix it, besides replacing the differential. Some people here with 40k miles are om their 3rd differential.

Having said all of that I like my GV70 very much and it runs just fine, with no differential problem, knock, knock, having all factory recalls done and an adjustment to the sunroof that caused noise at speeds of 60mph.

what's up with different front and rear tire sizes ?

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[One2Go]

No different front and rear tire size they are P255/40WR21, but the tire pressure is different for normal load Front 35psi and for the rear 39psi. I did have warnings on the two rear tires for low tire pressure when the cold weather set in. Increased the tire pressure and after a day or two the warnings went away.