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ECT when Stuck - Turn off or Leave on?......

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After being stuck in the snow this weekend. I was rocking my car between reverse and Low to get the car out. I got it out, and I left the ESC on.

I am wondering if this was the correct approach? Maybe it would have been easier to get the car out of a rut with the ESC off? Anyone know? I checked the manual and it did not indicate on this situation.
 
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Imo you should disable it because it will keep you from spinning the wheels when you need to. However, I don't think simply pushing the button will work if you are need to spin the wheels, not sure if you need to disengage the ECT or "fully disengage" the ECT...

In other news... snow!!?? its almost 70° here today 8)
 
I did some surfing on the internet and I think I found an answer to my question. If I would have thought of this yesterday, I'm sure it would have been a lot easier to get the car unstuck.

According to Thecarmarket.com, traction control helps to "limit tire slip in acceleration on slippery surfaces." The main purpose of traction control is to potentially eliminate situations like spin-outs or hydroplaning through sensors that monitor wheel-spin. If slippage is detected, engine power will be cut down and/or brake pressure applied without driver interaction.


Snow

Tires spin a bit when trying to gain traction from a stand still in the snow. The vehicle sensors act on this loss of traction by reducing engine power to the wheels. Turn off the traction control to maintain power in start off situations.


Burnouts

Although burnouts are not necessary for driving, they are popular at a car show or short race. Vehicles will not burn out to their maximum potential while the traction control limits the amount of tire spin.


Submerged Wheels

Any vehicle that is stuck in mud, snow or ice must have the traction control shut off to spin the wheels and gain momentum. To get out of this situation, the wheels have to spin to find traction or to allow the driver to "rock" the vehicle back and forth to roll out of the area that the wheels are stuck in.


Racing

For racing, speed and gear shifting go hand in hand. It will not be necessary to keep the traction control on because any instance of reduced engine power to the wheels will defeat the purpose of racing.


Drifting

Drifting is a vehicle activity that gains more popularity every year. In order to drift (or slide) around a turn, the traction control has to be off. Traction control will reduce engine power and apply outside brake pressure to eliminate sliding, which is necessary for drifting.
 
This may sound strange from a guy who lives MOST of the time in (snow free) Florida, however I still drive in the snow when up in WNY and/or Roswell. I also have many years of driving in snow. One thing I've learned...........

DO NOT "ROCK" BETWEEN DRIVE AND REVERSE. This will do nothing except to ruin your transmission. If stuck in the snow, do the following........

1. Place in Drive (with our Genesis', place in the manual shift position and place in 2nd).
Give a very little gas and get the car as far forward as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake, and with car not moving,....
2. Place in Reverse, then again, give a very little gas and get the car as far back as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake and with car not moving,....
Repeat 1 and 2 above. DO NOT ROCK. After doing 1 and 2 a few times, you will find that the car will move a little more each time. It also helps if when stopped, you turn your wheels side to side, just to clear some of the snow from around the front wheels. Also used this method when I lived in Down East Maine. (I've lived in many areas with lots of snow).

One last thing, althought it does not have anything to do with getting out of a snow bank or when stuck. My father taught me to drive up North in February, and he taught me well. Don't do anything quick. Don't hit the gas hard, don't push the brakes hard, dont turn your steering wheel (while moving) fast. Do everything slow and easy, and you won't get stuck in the first place (unless you are parked outside and the snow plows have you boxed in <grin>).

Again, if you Rock your car to get unstuck, you will blow your transmission!
 
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This may sound strange from a guy who lives MOST of the time in (snow free) Florida, however I still drive in the snow when up in WNY and/or Roswell. I also have many years of driving in snow. One thing I've learned...........

DO NOT "ROCK" BETWEEN DRIVE AND REVERSE. This will do nothing except to ruin your transmission. If stuck in the snow, do the following........

1. Place in Drive (with our Genesis', place in the manual shift position and place in 2nd).
Give a very little gas and get the car as far forward as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake, and with car not moving,....
2. Place in Reverse, then again, give a very little gas and get the car as far back as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake and with car not moving,....
Repeat 1 and 2 above. DO NOT ROCK. After doing 1 and 2 a few times, you will find that the car will move a little more each time. It also helps if when stopped, you turn your wheels side to side, just to clear some of the snow from around the front wheels. Also used this method when I lived in Down East Maine. (I've lived in many areas with lots of snow).

One last thing, althought it does not have anything to do with getting out of a snow bank or when stuck. My father taught me to drive up North in February, and he taught me well. Don't do anything quick. Don't hit the gas hard, don't push the brakes hard, dont turn your steering wheel (while moving) fast. Do everything slow and easy, and you won't get stuck in the first place (unless you are parked outside and the snow plows have you boxed in <grin>).

Again, if you Rock your car to get unstuck, you will blow your transmission!

+1. And it works just about every time with no damage to car or tires. Spinning tires melt the snow and the resulting water just lubes the tires making everything just that much more slippery.
 
This may sound strange from a guy who lives MOST of the time in (snow free) Florida, however I still drive in the snow when up in WNY and/or Roswell. I also have many years of driving in snow. One thing I've learned...........

DO NOT "ROCK" BETWEEN DRIVE AND REVERSE. This will do nothing except to ruin your transmission. If stuck in the snow, do the following........

1. Place in Drive (with our Genesis', place in the manual shift position and place in 2nd).
Give a very little gas and get the car as far forward as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake, and with car not moving,....
2. Place in Reverse, then again, give a very little gas and get the car as far back as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake and with car not moving,....
Repeat 1 and 2 above. DO NOT ROCK. After doing 1 and 2 a few times, you will find that the car will move a little more each time. It also helps if when stopped, you turn your wheels side to side, just to clear some of the snow from around the front wheels. Also used this method when I lived in Down East Maine. (I've lived in many areas with lots of snow).

One last thing, althought it does not have anything to do with getting out of a snow bank or when stuck. My father taught me to drive up North in February, and he taught me well. Don't do anything quick. Don't hit the gas hard, don't push the brakes hard, dont turn your steering wheel (while moving) fast. Do everything slow and easy, and you won't get stuck in the first place (unless you are parked outside and the snow plows have you boxed in <grin>).

Again, if you Rock your car to get unstuck, you will blow your transmission!

Sorry Bob, but it says right here in the owners manual that you May Rock the Vehicle. I have driven in snow for over 50 years and don't 'Blow Transmissions'. I always follow Manufacturers Recommendations. I really believe that they know more about the car than we do.

RockVehicle-1.jpg
 
Sorry Bob, but it says right here in the owners manual that you May Rock the Vehicle. I have driven in snow for over 50 years and don't 'Blow Transmissions'. I always follow Manufacturers Recommendations. I really believe that they know more about the car than we do.

RockVehicle-1.jpg

It may not ruin the tranny, but it is still good advice. Especially the lesson from Pops!
 
Many times you can "rock" the car without switching gears. In bad situations it doesn't always work though. I say keep some kitty litter in the trunk for added traction and for when you get stuck.
 
1. Place in Drive (with our Genesis', place in the manual shift position and place in 2nd).
Give a very little gas and get the car as far forward as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake, and with car not moving,....
2. Place in Reverse, then again, give a very little gas and get the car as far back as it will go without spinning the tires. Put foot on brake and with car not moving,....
Repeat 1 and 2 above.

Isn't this the definition of "rocking the car by moving it forward and backward"?
 
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