goodbye sedan hello......

[DeMAN]

Hello 3.8 loaded coupe. Time to let hair down a little. Thats for now. It was time to go after 93,500 trouble free miles for the most part. Navi issues that was cleared up under warranty. I'll just be next door.

 

[Aquineas]

Nice! Congrats, and enjoy the new ride!

 

[zielritter]

Hello 3.8 loaded coupe. Time to let hair down a little. Thats for now. It was time to go after 93,500 trouble free miles for the most part. Navi issues that was cleared up under warranty. I'll just be next door.

What did you drive before, V6 or V8? Is the coupe a 2013? How is the power delivery in it versus the sedan? I'm just curious about some of the differences beyond the obvious ones.

 

[scottdk]

Congrats DeMan There have been times that I've considered selling the Genesis and getting a fun coupe, possibly even a Genesis coupe V6, but the Genesis sedan is just so versatile for my life that I will continue to enjoy it. I would love to have the coupe though

 

[DeMAN]

What did you drive before, V6 or V8? Is the coupe a 2013? How is the power delivery in it versus the sedan? I'm just curious about some of the differences beyond the obvious ones.

2009 Sedan V8 (4.6) with Tech. In other words Loaded

The new 2013 coupe is a loaded V6 GT.


Hard to say because the V8 is broken in (93K miles)
Lets just say I'm with the 3.8. I'll be back later after break-in to speak more on the performance. (12 miles on the odometer at delivery)

 

[Aquineas]

I could see myself trading in the Genny for this coupe .

 

[Top Gear]

Congratulations, but the GT is not the loaded trim level. Just like the 2.0T models, the GT is the base/convenience package model, then comes the R-Spec with the racing suspension and LS diff, etc, then there's the Track model, which is the GT and R-Spec packages together, basically, and there are no major dealer options changing these packages. Still, all the coupes are very well outfitted.

Welcome to the Coupe world!

 

[dkoelzer337]

Congratulations, but the GT is not the loaded trim level. Just like the 2.0 models, the GT is the base/convenience package model, then comes the R-Spec with the racing suspension and LS diff, etc, then there's the Track model, which is the GT and R-Spec packages together, basically, and there are no major dealer options changing these packages. Still, all the Coupes are very well outfitted.

Welcome to the Couple world!

I think the Rspec is the base model and then GT then Track. My wife's GT is much better outfitted then the Rspec we test drove

 

[Top Gear]

Um, sorry, you're wrong about that. The R-Specs are a step up over the Base/GTs and costs more in the 2.0T tier despite costing less in the 3.8 tier (likely due to nav and other differences between 2.0T Base and 3.8 GT). The R-Specs sport an entire suspension upgrade, with upgraded springs and struts and sway bars, brembo brakes, 19in racing wheels, torsen limited-slip diff, tight manual transmission, unique red racing interior, fully-off ESC mode, and (like the Porshe mentality) they are lighter (200 lbs) than the Base/GT or Premium/Track models because they lack a few nice but non-race-oriented features like cruise control, sunroof, navigation, and power seats. Thus, the Coupe R-Specs are the fastest and best-handling of the three in each tier (2.0T/3.8). The Premium/Track model then adds back those luxury features (and their weight), while keeping the R-Spec's performance package. Some trims only come with automatic, some only with manual, and the 3.8 track can have either.

The GT is often called the 3.8 "Base", although better outfitted than the 2.0T Base and closer to the 2.0T Premium, and you can spot these stock because they have 18in wheels that are less "race" attractive (IMO). Then the R-Specs are a slimmed down race-ready "upgrade", really a whole different approach. Then the Premium/Track is the combination of the Base/GT and R-Spec packages with a few other upgrades or changes, thus costing the most.

This is why so many drivers who buy the 2.0T Base/Premium Coupe tend to get on the forums and start modifying the car, because the Base/Premium/GT needs more performance and handling upgrades to match the R-Spec and Track models, particularly if a 2.0T is trying to match the 3.8 models. To some modders, that's the point, as they want to mod the car their own way instead of having the R-Spec suspension and wheels, but some of us buy the 3.8 R-Spec or Track because they need no major mods and are fully covered.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

I could see myself trading in the Genny for this coupe .

Oh yeah!

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[dkoelzer337]

Um, sorry, you're wrong about that. The R-Spec is a step up and costs more than a GT because it sports an entire suspension upgrade, with upgraded springs and struts, the brembo brakes, 19in racing wheels, torsen limited-slip diff, manual transmission, unique red racing interior, and (like the Porshe mentality) has a lighter weight (200 lbs) from the Base/GT and Track models because it lacks a few non-race-oriented things like cruise control, sunroof, navigation, and power seats. Thus, the Coupe R-Specs are the fastest and best-handling of the three in each tier (2.0T/3.8). The Track model then adds back those luxury features (and their weight), while keeping the R-Spec's performance package, though you get back a slushie trans option.

The GT is the cheapest and often called the "base", which you can spot because they have 18in wheels that are less attractive (IMO), although GTs are very well outfitted, then the R-Spec is a slimmed down race-ready upgrade costing more than the GT, and then the Track is the combination of the GT and R-Spec packages with a few other upgrades, thus costing the most.

This is why so many drivers who buy the 2.0T GT Coupe tend to get on the forums and start modifying the car, because the GT needs more performance and handling upgrades to match the R-Spec and Track models, particularly if trying to match the V6 models. To some modders, that's the point, as they want to mod the car their own way instead of having the R-Spec suspension and wheels, but some of us buy the R-Spec or Track because it needs no major mods.

So I guess the Hyundai website is wrong?

http://m.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/prices.html

 

[Top Gear]

No, they can be listed by price, but that wrinkle in the 3.8 prices vs the 2.0T prices is irrelevant to my point, which is still correct. The 3.8 GT is not the "loaded" model - the 3.8 Track is. The 2.0T is the "base", which, with the Premium, matches the 3.8 GT in most features (aside from engine or nav). The 3.8 GT is the luxury model for people who don't care about all the performance specs, while the 3.8 R-Spec is the racing model for people who don't care about all the luxury trimmings, which matches the 2.0T R-Spec in most features (not the engine). The 3.8 Track model is for those who want both of the packages, which doesn't really matche the 2.0T Premium in my view (engine/trans, suspension and other features are added). It's not a controversial point - but I could have been clearer the first time.

 

[dkoelzer337]

No, they can be listed by price, but that wrinkle in the 3.8 prices vs the 2.0T prices is irrelevant to my point, which is still correct. The GT is not the "loaded" model. The 2.0T is the "base", which matches the 3.8 GT in most features (not the engine or nav). The 3.8 GT is the luxury model for people who don't care about all the performance specs, while the 3.8 R-Spec is the racing model for people who don't care about all the luxury trimmings, which matches the 2.0T R-Spec in most features (not the engine). The 3.8 Track model is for those who want both of the packages, which matches the 2.0T Premium in most features (not engine/trans). It's not a controversial point.

Um...okay