Group buy for Custom throttle body spacer 5.0

[Nfmosch3829]

Heymy 5.0 owners, need to know who would be interested in a group buy on a throttle body spacer, i am purchasing an extra intake and tb to have it scanned for a 15-20 people batch the more the merry, price is based on how many ppl i get..if interested please comment IM IN...thanks !! Once o get 10 ppl min i will purchase the manifold after 15 i will send it out to get scanned might possibly also do a deposit with info depending on how many and price

 

[Suburbazine]

What's the goal or intent of the TB spacer? Being the 5.0 is direct injected you aren't getting the scavenging improvements that help port injection systems. Our 5.0's also aren't hybrid injection systems like some other 5.0's (Lexus/Ford) that have both direct and port injection rails.

 

[Nfmosch3829]

What's the goal or intent of the TB spacer? Being the 5.0 is direct injected you aren't getting the scavenging improvements that help port injection systems. Our 5.0's also aren't hybrid injection systems like some other 5.0's (Lexus/Ford) that have both direct and port injection rails.

Increase volume in the intake is the main goal theres plenty of info out there that it widens the torque and power curve and increase slightly cruising mpg

The 5.0 intake deff has room on the table for porting which i tend to do paired with a tb spacer will give us something

 

[EdP]

Increase volume in the intake is the main goal theres plenty of info out there that it widens the torque and power curve and increase slightly cruising mpg

The 5.0 intake deff has room on the table for porting which i tend to do paired with a tb spacer will give us something

Do you have evidence of one done and figures on what changed? Or is this just your theory based on whatever?

 

[Nfmosch3829]

Do you have evidence of one done and figures on what changed? Or is this just your theory based on whatever?

I am not your average owner im a certified tech, build plenty of cars, engines,transmission ect....own 72 dart, 70 roadrunner, srt4 in the works hoping for 800 plus ( built engine to 1200, liberty gears doggbox transmission, custom turbo manifold and turbo, jmf custom intake manifold, 80mm tb, 2200cc injectors, ect wll the work$$) A spacer by its self is not a major increase but about 5 to 10 hp and torque is seen but paired with other mods it helps

 

[EdP]

I am not your average owner im a certified tech, build plenty of cars, engines,transmission ect....own 72 dart, 70 roadrunner, srt4 in the works hoping for 800 plus ( built engine to 1200, liberty gears doggbox transmission, custom turbo manifold and turbo, jmf custom intake manifold, 80mm tb, 2200cc injectors, ect wll the work$$) A spacer by its self is not a major increase but about 5 to 10 hp and torque is seen but paired with other mods it helps

OK, so based on best guess from other experience. May work well but I'm the kind of guy that wants to see it work before I take apart an engine under warranty and make a modification.
Good luck with your project.

 

[Nfmosch3829]

OK, so based on best guess from other experience. May work well but I'm the kind of guy that wants to see it work before I take apart an engine under warranty and make a modification.
Good luck with your project.

This mod will probably be an hour tops job if ur a beginner and shouldnt void your warranty just take it off when u go in

But understandable..then again most people doing mods know this exhaust intake suspension ect up to the owner

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

OK, so based on best guess from other experience. May work well but I'm the kind of guy that wants to see it work before I take apart an engine under warranty and make a modification.
Good luck with your project.

Not broken ,don't fix it!

 

[Suburbazine]

I am not your average owner im a certified tech, build plenty of cars, engines,transmission ect....own 72 dart, 70 roadrunner, srt4 in the works hoping for 800 plus ( built engine to 1200, liberty gears doggbox transmission, custom turbo manifold and turbo, jmf custom intake manifold, 80mm tb, 2200cc injectors, ect wll the work$$) A spacer by its self is not a major increase but about 5 to 10 hp and torque is seen but paired with other mods it helps

Would need to see actual numbers on a spacer before I'd buy one for that very reason- you're used to doing performance port injection systems, whereas this is a direct injection engine. The runner pressure cycles on an intake stroke don't affect fuel/air density like port injection systems where you can stuff a tiny bit more fuel mixture into the cylinder by having more air mass behind the throttle body.

And here's problem #2: You can't easily prove a 5-10HP increase. That's well within the margin of error for any Dynojet or Mustang dynamometer on any measurement above 300WHP. The 5.0 is rated for 420 at the crank, so adding 10HP (at best) there is like trying to measure a 8HP difference at the wheels. The only measurable gains the DH 5.0 has ever made were with full catback exhaust systems, which averaged 25-35HP.

 

[Nfmosch3829]

Would need to see actual numbers on a spacer before I'd buy one for that very reason- you're used to doing performance port injection systems, whereas this is a direct injection engine. The runner pressure cycles on an intake stroke don't affect fuel/air density like port injection systems where you can stuff a tiny bit more fuel mixture into the cylinder by having more air mass behind the throttle body.

And here's problem #2: You can't easily prove a 5-10HP increase. That's well within the margin of error for any Dynojet or Mustang dynamometer on any measurement above 300WHP. The 5.0 is rated for 420 at the crank, so adding 10HP (at best) there is like trying to measure a 8HP difference at the wheels. The only measurable gains the DH 5.0 has ever made were with full catback exhaust systems, which averaged 25-35HP.

Understandable 100 percent and it all depends hell it might only be 2 hp but its more of to go on with supporting mods ported tb, ported intake, full exhaust im trying to see whos interested in the 5.0 mods with the spacer if all goes well ill dig into other group buys of other parts

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[skipgen]

Not broken ,don't fix it!

Yeah... 420hp is enough for my purposes.

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

Yeah... 420hp is enough for my purposes.

Exactly!

 

[Nfmosch3829]

Yeah... 420hp is enough for my purposes.

Its actually only like 330 ish to the wheels

 

[carguy75]

Its actually only like 330 ish to the wheels

Well, actually about 364hp to the wheels per a dyno test by Edmunds on a 2012 5.0 V8 engine. Very strong engine for the money.

2012 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 R-Spec: Dyno Tested | Edmunds

Edmunds conducts a Dyno Test of the 2012 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 R-Spec

www.edmunds.com

 

[carguy75]

Yeah... 420hp is enough for my purposes.

I like to squeeze every hp I can from an engine, but you are correct. The stock 5.0 engine has more than enough power without any additional tweaks.

 

[carguy75]

I am not your average owner im a certified tech, build plenty of cars, engines,transmission ect....own 72 dart, 70 roadrunner, srt4 in the works hoping for 800 plus ( built engine to 1200, liberty gears doggbox transmission, custom turbo manifold and turbo, jmf custom intake manifold, 80mm tb, 2200cc injectors, ect wll the work$$) A spacer by its self is not a major increase but about 5 to 10 hp and torque is seen but paired with other mods it helps

However, the TAU engine is not an older American made carburetor or port injection engine so we can not just assume that a throttle body spacer will work based on work done on those engines. Every engine design will respond differently to changes; some will show improvements and others will not.

Usually a mod must improve upon an area of the engine where the stock part is not optimized for any gains in engine power to be created or more accurately unleashed over the stock setup.

Throttle spacers may work in the TAU engine, but it will need extensive testing to determine the exact size or depth to create a notifiable gain in performance if at all. I would rather have a tuner shop create a performance designed intake manifold for our cars with optimized intake runners for high end horspower since the TAU engine has a lot of torque in the stock design as is which break tire traction from a standstill.

 

[edwin.foster]

Heymy 5.0 owners, need to know who would be interested in a group buy on a throttle body spacer, i am purchasing an extra intake and tb to have it scanned for a 15-20 people batch the more the merry, price is based on how many ppl i get..if interested please comment IM IN...thanks !! Once o get 10 ppl min i will purchase the manifold after 15 i will send it out to get scanned might possibly also do a deposit with info depending on how many and price

Did you ever move forward with this throttle body spacer? I have a 2015 sedan 5.0.

 

[G-399085]

Id be interested only because im going to spray the car in the spring..... be a good spot for the nitrous jet to go...