Yes, I'm sure they would. Legally they have no say. According to the franchise laws dealers are independent businesses.The question is, are there any? I’d certainly think Genesis of America (or whatever it’s called) would want to somehow govern gouging.
Yeah, but how many products are we aware of in which gouging takes place, especially brand names seeking to establish themselves? How many U.S. jewelers of repute tack on thousands of dollars to the stated price of a Rolex or an Omega watch? How many kitchen appliance dealers blithely add thousands to a Sub-zero refrigerator? Same re Leica cameras, etc. Their dealers are independent,too, are they not?Yes, I'm sure they would. Legally they have no say. According to the franchise laws dealers are independent businesses.
Yes, they are. What does that have to do with what car dealers have been doing for the past 60+ years that I'm aware of? It took the government to force them to put stickers on the window because of the pricing that dealers did for years. Turns out, it was not a restriction but a bonanza for dealers at the time.Yeah, but how many products are we aware of in which gouging takes place, especially brand names seeking to establish themselves? How many U.S. jewelers of repute tack on thousands of dollars to the stated price of a Rolex or an Omega watch? How many kitchen appliance dealers blithely add thousands to a Sub-zero refrigerator? Same re Leica cameras, etc. Their dealers are independent,too, are they not?
Are any of those products in such short supply as the GV80 is? Is the GV80 an essential product that people can’t live without? No? Then it is not gouging. No one is forcing you to buy it because it’s necessary to sustain your life like food or water.Yeah, but how many products are we aware of in which gouging takes place, especially brand names seeking to establish themselves? How many U.S. jewelers of repute tack on thousands of dollars to the stated price of a Rolex or an Omega watch? How many kitchen appliance dealers blithely add thousands to a Sub-zero refrigerator? Same re Leica cameras, etc. Their dealers are independent,too, are they not?
You mention jewelers. Good friend of mine owns a couple of stores. Want to learn pricing tricks?
Don't worry, those extra costs will soon enough go away once supply catches up, the GV80 is no longer the new kid on the block, and dealers have to compete more with each other to make the sale.
There are large legal differences that are too complex to explain here. Summarized, some industry sectors can legally regulate the retail price of a product’s retail outlets/dealers. But the automobile industry is exempt from that thanks to many years of the National Automobile Dealers Association‘s (NADA) work on state and federal laws to protect dealers who were being seriously abused by manufacturers for a lot of years. Today, auto dealers have some quite unique laws protecting them as compared to most other retail businesses. Not saying it’s right or wrong, good or bad, but those are the facts that govern what a car manufacturer and a dealer can and can’t do. Doesn’t operate based on “logic” or “how it should be”. It’s based on laws.Yeah, but how many products are we aware of in which gouging takes place, especially brand names seeking to establish themselves? How many U.S. jewelers of repute tack on thousands of dollars to the stated price of a Rolex or an Omega watch? How many kitchen appliance dealers blithely add thousands to a Sub-zero refrigerator? Same re Leica cameras, etc. Their dealers are independent,too, are they not?
With the returns in the market today and the foreseeable future...Ya might have been better off leaving all of that cash invested and let it make the payments for you!!!I have been waiting for the GV80 since it was first previewed. It is perfect for me, I don't care about the badge snobbery offered by traditional luxury brands. I wanted a very comfortable luxury SUV with the latest tech and safety features. Road trip vacations is why we wanted a very comfortable larger SUV. It is over-kill for running errands.
I paid list + $1295 for a BS dealer installed alarm/tracking thing. It hurt a little to do it, but other dealers in our area were asking for more for the very few Prestige 3.5 models available.
We are enjoying our GV80 immensely. We have already done a road trip through Utah's National Parks. The GV80 exceeded my high expectations. We'll be taking our next trip at the end of the month,
I could have waited until supply catches up with demand, but I would not have had it for whatever period of time that is. I don't really care about resale value, we paid cash and will for the next one as well. My last new car was a Chevy Malibu over 20 years ago, that's one of the reasons we don't need financing or leasing.
We're in our mid-60's, these are our "Go Go" years of retirement - no time to waste. (the next ones are Slow-Go then No-Go")
20 years ago, I might have waited a few years to find a "cream-puff" just off lease. That will likely be an excellent value
I'll give you the "market today," but I doubt anyone can predict where the market will be going for the "forseeable future." Obviously, it's currently in a classic bubble, but those things can go on a lot longer than anyone thinks and many short sellers have shed tears over their efforts to time market turnings. In the meantime enjoy the ride. Wheee!With the returns in the market today and the foreseeable future...Ya might have been better off leaving all of that cash invested and let it make the payments for you!!!![]()
Hey, as long as that feeble idiot in Washington and his gang of fools want to dump another $1.9T of "stimulus" into the economy...Bet on it and bet big!!!I'll give you the "market today," but I doubt anyone can predict where the market will be going for the "forseeable future." Obviously, it's currently in a classic bubble, but those things can go on a lot longer than anyone thinks and many short sellers have shed tears over their efforts to time market turnings. In the meantime enjoy the ride. Wheee! View attachment 34500
I tried in Chicagoland a few weeks ago but it came up empty.Has anybody tried the Costco Auto buying program (different from TrueCar) to see if they can get better pricing from a local participating dealer?