Hand wash

[Bill K]

Just had my first dealer oil change, which is free, from my dealer, with conventional oil. I upgraded to full synthetic for an upcharge of $36 for 6+ quarts. When they asked if I wanted a free car wash, I asked if it was a machine wash and was told that it was a hand wash. Not bad for free. It must have looked strange, but I brought along a few microfiber towels to wipe off a few remaining water drops, and to wipe the sills.
In the future, for the next 8 years, their conventional oil changes only cost me $9, but I will look for a sale on Mobil 1, and let them use my oil.
I normally do my own oil changes, but the Genesis looks like a real pain to do.
Would not surprise me if the Genesis oil filter is over $9, by itself.

 

[FastDEW1]

The filter for the 5.0 was $11.99 at my dealer. It is a cartridge instead of a canister spin type.

I agree - the panels under the car make it difficult to change oil on jack stands or ramps.

 

[kn5owa]

The filter for the 5.0 was $11.99 at my dealer. It is a cartridge instead of a canister spin type.

I agree - the panels under the car make it difficult to change oil on jack stands or ramps.

I plan to continue doing the oil changes anyway. Want to know it's done right.

P.S. why are these type filters called "cartridge filters" anyway? There is no cartridge - just a barebones paper filter. And, I wouldn't exactly call the housing a cartridge either.

P.S. part two - The dealer "discount price" for the filter is $8.00 - tell the parts guy you bought a bunch of cars there (or something).

 

[Bill K]

I believe that the older Genesis has the paper type filter, and the newer ones have a spin on type. I'm not sure what year they changed.
The older "paper" type housing might have been on top of the engine, but I'm not sure.

 

[kn5owa]

I believe that the older Genesis has the paper type filter, and the newer ones have a spin on type. I'm not sure what year they changed.
The older "paper" type housing might have been on top of the engine, but I'm not sure.

My 2015 genny V8 most definitely uses the paper/cartridge type filter as does my '06 sonata V6. The difference being that the sonata filter is on top and easy to change.

 

[Bill K]

Not a fan of top filters (like the Azera) because of drainback. If the "O" rings leak, the filter housing drains, so that the engine runs without oil pressure for a few seconds, every start up.

 

[FastDEW1]

I plan to continue doing the oil changes anyway. Want to know it's done right.

P.S. why are these type filters called "cartridge filters" anyway? There is no cartridge - just a barebones paper filter. And, I wouldn't exactly call the housing a cartridge either.

P.S. part two - The dealer "discount price" for the filter is $8.00 - tell the parts guy you bought a bunch of cars there (or something).

I am too lazy to do my own oil changes any more. But I understand your reason for sure....

The "cartridge" filter is anything where you open a container and take out a paper filter and insert another. The alternative is the "canister" spin on/off filter.

My 2011 4.6 and my 2014 5.0 are both cartridge types for sure.

 

[Mark_888]

I believe that the older Genesis has the paper type filter, and the newer ones have a spin on type. I'm not sure what year they changed.
The older "paper" type housing might have been on top of the engine, but I'm not sure.

• The 2009 - 2011 3.8L V6 had a top mounted canister filter, and then they switched to a bottom mount with the 3.8 GDI engine for 2012 onward.
• The 4.6/5.0 V8 has always been bottom mount.
• All Genesis sedan filters have used a canister type system that I believe is made by Mahle.

Although the 2015 3.8L V6 filter is bottom mount as noted above, but there is a thread in this forum where someone shows there is apparently enough room between the radiator and engine block to reach down from the top of the engine bay and remove the oil filter, assuming you have something underneath it to catch any dripping oil. The thread has pics.

I have posted information several times in this forum on how to use a MityVac 7300 fluid extractor, attached to a small air compressor, to remove the oil from the crankcase through the dipstick hole. With a little practice, one is able to remove more oil this way than with a drain plug. Oil extractors with a hand pump are worthless.

 

[SoCalGen]

I've been having the dealer do mine with a semi-synthetic blend. I think it's $35 out the door. They also include a hand wash and although I let them do it the first time they did such a horrible job from now on I'm going to put a post-it saying not to wash it. Also I fill the tires with nitrogen so I tell them not to check the tire pressure either.

I'm kind of a picky customer.