Have Not Yet Seen 2010 4.6 Tech's

[ctrcbob]

Last week, I had business in Orlando, so I visited my selling Hyundai Dealer in Orlando before returning home. Today, I had business in Leesburg, so I visited my closest Hyundai Dealer in Leesburg, before returning home.

Both dealers have 2010 4.6 V8's but none have the Tech Package. All that I saw have the Standard Touch Screen Navi unit, and all stickered at just over $40,xxx (although the Leesburg dealer continues to have a $5,000 "Bump Up" sticker added).

In talking with my Orlando Saleperson, he told me the differences of the two 2010 V8's. Can't remember them all, except the standard pkg has the Touch Screen Disc powered Navi unit (vice the DIS non-touch screen unit on the Tech), the standard does not have the headlights the "pivot", does not have the adaptive Cruise Control, and some other things (that I can't remember) that come on the Tech. (The pivot headlights on the Tech are worthless - cornering lights, like on my Continental would be much better - and from listening to owners of cars with adaptive cruise control, my understanding is that most don't like it - and no need for it, because you still have to have your eyes on the road ahead, and if you can't touch your brake when you get close to a car ahead, you should not be driving). The way I see it, the standard 4.6 V8 has everything that is truly needed.

My contact/friend at Leesburg will let me know when the 2011 Sonata arrives, as I want to check it out. Unfortunatly, he is not mangement, and has no say on that dealership having bump-up stickers, and although I like him a lot, he understands that if I wanted a 2011 Sonata (for my wife), I don't fool around with bump-up stickers, and would buy from the first dealer that gives me a discounted price the first time, just like when I bought my Genesis.

 

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Both dealers have 2010 4.6 V8's but none have the Tech Package. All that I saw have the Standard Touch Screen Navi unit, and all stickered at just over $40,xxx (although the Leesburg dealer continues to have a $5,000 "Bump Up" sticker added).

bought a v-8 with tech package today in Scottsdale,Az. rAINING ETC SO i HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO ENJOY IT.

 

[ctrcbob]

bought a v-8 with tech package today in Scottsdale,Az. rAINING ETC SO i HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO ENJOY IT.

Did you buy it from Chapman Hyundai on Bell Road? I had mine serviced by them. Don't know anything about their Sales Department, but their Service Department treated me great. After they did a TSB on my car, they washed and "mini detailed" it. Looked great.

 

[SunnySD]

Interesting. I find here in SoCal that the v8 without tech is the hard one to find. They all seem to have the tech package. I just did a search on cars.com and see that there are some without the tech package but looks like most come with tech.

I agree, I'm not one for the extra features but is the rearview camera only available with the tech package?

 

[dataguy]

I agree, I'm not one for the extra features but is the rearview camera only available with the tech package?

According to the sticker, the Premium Nav package (optional on the 3.8, standard on the 4.6) has a backup camera too.

Basically the 4.6 in the sticker has everything standard in the middle column, and the things that are added or upgraded with the Technology Package is in the right column (along with any other options).

 

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Did you buy it from Chapman Hyundai on Bell Road? I had mine serviced by them. Don't know anything about their Sales Department, but their Service Department treated me great. After they did a TSB on my car, they washed and "mini detailed" it. Looked great.

I bought mine at Discover Hyundai - new dealership just opened up.

I've been thru so many Hyundai dealers in the last year.

Had to fight with them for them to do the rebadging on the front and back - got me so pissed off I was ready to walk out on them - was bs'ed about it costing $2,000 to do the complete rebadging air bag, 4 wheels and front and back.

Had a defect in the right rear passenger door panel (interior) - pointed this out while the car was on the showroom floor.

I think I might have to fight them over this.

 

[realpix]

Interesting. I find here in SoCal that the v8 without tech is the hard one to find. They all seem to have the tech package. I just did a search on cars.com and see that there are some without the tech package but looks like most come with tech.

I agree, I'm not one for the extra features but is the rearview camera only available with the tech package?

The 2010 sales brochure says v-6 it comes with the premium navigation package and it is standard on the v-8.

 

[dataguy]

Had to fight with them for them to do the rebadging on the front and back - got me so pissed off I was ready to walk out on them - was bs'ed about it costing $2,000 to do the complete rebadging air bag, 4 wheels and front and back.

That's probably 400% markup on the price for full rebadging yourself, and probably more considering the dealer's cost.

 

[VivienM]

(The pivot headlights on the Tech are worthless - cornering lights, like on my Continental would be much better -

It seems to me like cars should have both. The old-school American cornering light is useful when you are slowing down to turn and want to see where you're about to turn to (or the sign on the street, etc). The adaptive headlights are FABULOUS when you are going 'straight' on a curvy road. Totally different situations. I don't understand why you don't like the adaptive headlights...

FWIW, a friend's dad just got a new MKS, and it's adaptive-headlights-only. So Lincoln is going the same way...

 

[realpix]

It seems to me like cars should have both. The old-school American cornering light is useful when you are slowing down to turn and want to see where you're about to turn to (or the sign on the street, etc). The adaptive headlights are FABULOUS when you are going 'straight' on a curvy road. Totally different situations. I don't understand why you don't like the adaptive headlights...

FWIW, a friend's dad just got a new MKS, and it's adaptive-headlights-only. So Lincoln is going the same way...

I just rented a Lincoln Signature whatever several weeks ago and I thought it was basically a cow pie. (POS)

I didn't like how the drivers door came out - the edge was near eye level getting out of the car and the door wouldn't stay opened - my Azera - you touched the door and it balanced and closed with very little effort.

Also you had to manually turn off the lights?!?!!?

My new Genesis - just got it 2 days ago (and with all this rain in AZ - is well so much more refined and balanced. Doors are balanced, close with very little pressure and the car is a dream to drive.

On;ly problem is leeaarning the voice commands (I think the voice commands are close to worthless) and other fine aspects.

I've only put a little more than 100 miles on it - but it is time to take a trip with it.

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[VivienM]

I just rented a Lincoln Signature whatever several weeks ago and I thought it was basically a cow pie. (POS)

I didn't like how the drivers door came out - the edge was near eye level getting out of the car and the door wouldn't stay opened - my Azera - you touched the door and it balanced and closed with very little effort.

Also you had to manually turn off the lights?!?!!?

My new Genesis - just got it 2 days ago (and with all this rain in AZ - is well so much more refined and balanced. Doors are balanced, close with very little pressure and the car is a dream to drive.

On;ly problem is leeaarning the voice commands (I think the voice commands are close to worthless) and other fine aspects.

I've only put a little more than 100 miles on it - but it is time to take a trip with it.

"Lincoln Signature"? Do you mean a Town Car Signature?

The Town Car is a dinosaur. Plain and simple. Architecture dating back to the late 1970s, last significantly tweaked in 2003 (new steering, a few engine tweaks, etc). But it's very reliable, has a huge trunk, and a floaty ride that's good for some purposes. Great for chauffeurs, but totally obsolete for people who drive themselves.

The new car from Lincoln is the MKS. Compared to the Genesis:
- base engine on the Genesis delivers much better performance numbers
- MKS is FWD/AWD, not RWD.
- the nav system and voice recognition are much better (the voice system on the Genesis sucks)
- the proximity entry is worthless (the MKS doesn't have those little buttons on the door handles. You unlock the driver's door by touching the keypad. You don't unlock the passenger door.)
- MKS has heated rear seats, at least up north. Genesis doesn't.
- MKS has a passenger side cooled seat
- MKS has a much simpler suspension
- MKS is bigger.
- MKS costs $15-20K CAD more for a comparably equipped car.
That's about it...

 

[GumbyN]

I bought a 4.6 Tech earlier this month in South Florida. There aren't that many 4.6's around with the tech package (in S Florida) according to the dealer. It only took him a few hours to swap for one, so someone down here has them.

I love the car so far! Like many others, I know the Navi could be better, but that is another topic. As is the HORRIBLE iPhone interface. I would be disappointed with that thing at any price point.

Last week, I had business in Orlando, so I visited my selling Hyundai Dealer in Orlando before returning home. Today, I had business in Leesburg, so I visited my closest Hyundai Dealer in Leesburg, before returning home.

Both dealers have 2010 4.6 V8's but none have the Tech Package. All that I saw have the Standard Touch Screen Navi unit, and all stickered at just over $40,xxx (although the Leesburg dealer continues to have a $5,000 "Bump Up" sticker added).

In talking with my Orlando Saleperson, he told me the differences of the two 2010 V8's. Can't remember them all, except the standard pkg has the Touch Screen Disc powered Navi unit (vice the DIS non-touch screen unit on the Tech), the standard does not have the headlights the "pivot", does not have the adaptive Cruise Control, and some other things (that I can't remember) that come on the Tech. (The pivot headlights on the Tech are worthless - cornering lights, like on my Continental would be much better - and from listening to owners of cars with adaptive cruise control, my understanding is that most don't like it - and no need for it, because you still have to have your eyes on the road ahead, and if you can't touch your brake when you get close to a car ahead, you should not be driving). The way I see it, the standard 4.6 V8 has everything that is truly needed.

My contact/friend at Leesburg will let me know when the 2011 Sonata arrives, as I want to check it out. Unfortunatly, he is not mangement, and has no say on that dealership having bump-up stickers, and although I like him a lot, he understands that if I wanted a 2011 Sonata (for my wife), I don't fool around with bump-up stickers, and would buy from the first dealer that gives me a discounted price the first time, just like when I bought my Genesis.

 

[motorsportsauthority]

The knob control is only offered with the Tech package.

 

[SunnySD]

How come the sticker sheet shows backup camera as both standard and optional?

 

[2ez24get]

Last week, I had business in Orlando, so I visited my selling Hyundai Dealer in Orlando before returning home. Today, I had business in Leesburg, so I visited my closest Hyundai Dealer in Leesburg, before returning home.

Both dealers have 2010 4.6 V8's but none have the Tech Package. All that I saw have the Standard Touch Screen Navi unit, and all stickered at just over $40,xxx (although the Leesburg dealer continues to have a $5,000 "Bump Up" sticker added).

In talking with my Orlando Saleperson, he told me the differences of the two 2010 V8's. Can't remember them all, except the standard pkg has the Touch Screen Disc powered Navi unit (vice the DIS non-touch screen unit on the Tech), the standard does not have the headlights the "pivot", does not have the adaptive Cruise Control, and some other things (that I can't remember) that come on the Tech. (The pivot headlights on the Tech are worthless - cornering lights, like on my Continental would be much better - and from listening to owners of cars with adaptive cruise control, my understanding is that most don't like it - and no need for it, because you still have to have your eyes on the road ahead, and if you can't touch your brake when you get close to a car ahead, you should not be driving). The way I see it, the standard 4.6 V8 has everything that is truly needed.

My contact/friend at Leesburg will let me know when the 2011 Sonata arrives, as I want to check it out. Unfortunatly, he is not mangement, and has no say on that dealership having bump-up stickers, and although I like him a lot, he understands that if I wanted a 2011 Sonata (for my wife), I don't fool around with bump-up stickers, and would buy from the first dealer that gives me a discounted price the first time, just like when I bought my Genesis.

Just Purchased (12/28/09) a 2010 4.6L with tech at Hyundai Wesley Chapel here in North Tampa. They have a sister dealership owned by the same person in Port Richey. Good prices and inventory.

 

[dataguy]

How come the sticker sheet shows backup camera as both standard and optional?

Which sticker?

For example, if you're talking about a 2010 4.6 with the Technology Package, then the camera would show up in the standard features column because the 2010 4.6 base model comes with the Premium Navigation package (touchscreen nav with backup camera). The Technology Package is an optional upgrade, and that system has backup camera support too. That's one way that it can show up as both "standard" and "optional" equipment.

 

[realpix]

"Lincoln Signature"? Do you mean a Town Car Signature?

Nope - Lincoln Signature.



The Town Car is a dinosaur. Plain and simple. Architecture dating back to the late 1970s, last significantly tweaked in 2003 (new steering, a few engine tweaks, etc). But it's very reliable, has a huge trunk, and a floaty ride that's good for some purposes. Great for chauffeurs, but totally obsolete for people who drive themselves.

The new car from Lincoln is the MKS. Compared to the Genesis:
- base engine on the Genesis delivers much better performance numbers
- MKS is FWD/AWD, not RWD.
- the nav system and voice recognition are much better (the voice system on the Genesis sucks)

Tell me about it.


- the proximity entry is worthless (the MKS doesn't have those little buttons on the door handles. You unlock the driver's door by touching the keypad. You don't unlock the passenger door.)


I love the proximity key. Great!

- MKS has heated rear seats, at least up north. Genesis doesn't.
- MKS has a passenger side cooled seat
- MKS has a much simpler suspension
- MKS is bigger.
- MKS costs $15-20K CAD more for a comparably equipped car.
That's about it...

I did get the 4.6 Genesis.

I'm happy.

 

[dev]

A reply to your post about the non tech 2010 4.6. I have driven my 4.6 tech about 3000 miles, I find the headlights most useful, my lake home is located on a hilly and twisting road that is quite dark at night. the adaptive lights are very helpful, I first used them on my Lexus LS and the ones on the Genesis make driving much easier. This is my first use of adaptive cruise control and I find it very good. I can count on the cruise pacing the car in front of me in traffic, as I watch for an opening in traffic to pull out to pass, I have never paid extra for it on my former Lexus cars thinking it would be unnecessary but I find it most useful on the Genesis