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HYUNDAI SHOULD HAVE KEEP THE 5.0 V-8 DO YOU AGREE

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2G Genesis Sedan (2015-2016)
I love my 5 litre V-8 I think that Hyundai should keep the engine and boost it up to 650 horsepower or more, to compete with the BMW or MERCEDES . Or make the 6 cylinder 600 plus horsepower. I think the Natural Aspirated V-8 would be more fun and the sound would be , heaven. Maybe a V-10 or V-12 lol. I'm just dreaming. They have the platform to make the faster sedan in the world if they choose to. Let me hear your comments.
 
Hard nope. Love the V-8 but it's a dinosaur and every dollar invested in a next generation one would be better spent on EV powertrain development.
 
I love my 5 litre V-8 I think that Hyundai should keep the engine and boost it up to 650 horsepower or more, to compete with the BMW or MERCEDES . Or make the 6 cylinder 600 plus horsepower. I think the Natural Aspirated V-8 would be more fun and the sound would be , heaven. Maybe a V-10 or V-12 lol. I'm just dreaming. They have the platform to make the faster sedan in the world if they choose to. Let me hear your comments.
Would be nice. Start by writing to your congressman to change EPA regulations. Once they are gone the big engines will be back. While at it, change California regulations too since you won't be able to buy one there with a one cylinder lawnmower gas engine soon.

I've had fantasies since puberty but no longer have them for big ICE engines.
 
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As much as I love my 5.0 and the advanced state of ICEs, I agree that it's a dinosaur. Electric is the future. I'm just glad I got to have a big, powerful V8 in my lifetime.
 
As much as I love my 5.0 and the advanced state of ICEs, I agree that it's a dinosaur. Electric is the future. I'm just glad I got to have a big, powerful V8 in my lifetime.
That's exactly why I got my 5.0 - I wanted to own at least one V8, rear drive cruiser. As far as turbos getting better mileage is pretty much BS unless you drive like you have an egg under the pedal... Which I don't do, because my right foot is made of depleted uranium!
 
I love my 5 litre V-8 I think that Hyundai should keep the engine and boost it up to 650 horsepower or more, to compete with the BMW or MERCEDES . Or make the 6 cylinder 600 plus horsepower. I think the Natural Aspirated V-8 would be more fun and the sound would be , heaven. Maybe a V-10 or V-12 lol. I'm just dreaming. They have the platform to make the faster sedan in the world if they choyesose to. Let me hear your comments.
I am bias because I own and do like my 5.0 V8; so my personal answer is a hard "Yes" that Hyundai should keep the N/A 5.0 engine in production.

However, my more logical side of thinking knows that an force inducted V6 engine can out perform the 5.0 V8 in power and in fuel economy; so to keep up with other modern engines Hyundai will follow the trend of smaller displacement with force induction so the N/A 5.0 V8 days are numbered in the Hyundai/KIA family.
 
It's ok to replace the 5.0 but at lease give us a 6 cylinder with 600 plus horsepower or even more. Or maybe an engine like the Nissan GTR. 3.8 litre with 575 horsepower before tuning.
 
I just want to let you know where I stand.

I went to the local dealer to get some oil filters. A salesman met me at the door and said "We would really like to have your Genesis (2018 G80 BASE 3.8) and can make you a great deal on a new one". I said OK. Lets go pick out one.
First, I want a 21 or 22, NO sunroof, NO turbo. Both are problems waiting for a place happen.
The salesman said sorry for bothering you, maybe some time in the future we can help you.
I know the sunroof is going to cause problems, and I wouldn't use it anyway. Also, I will not drive a car with a glass roof. As far a turbos, I don't think that using a turbo to get the power using 4 cyl or
6 cyl to get the same power as a V8 or V6 is the way to go. Reliability is more important to me than power. My 3.8 is fine.
Am I the only one that feels this way?????
 
I went to the local dealer to get some oil filters. A salesman met me at the door and said "We would really like to have your Genesis (2018 G80 BASE 3.8) and can make you a great deal on a new one". I said OK. Lets go pick out one.
I got a letter with almost the same wording, that the dealer might be able to put me in a new car for about the same price. I cannot imagine trading my base 19 base for a base 21 at no cost, but that's what they imply.

But yes, I'll miss the opportunity to own a Genesis V8. Frankly, if I could snap my fingers and trade my 3.8 for a V8 model in the same like-new condition, I would seriously consider it.
 
I just want to let you know where I stand.

I went to the local dealer to get some oil filters. A salesman met me at the door and said "We would really like to have your Genesis (2018 G80 BASE 3.8) and can make you a great deal on a new one". I said OK. Lets go pick out one.
First, I want a 21 or 22, NO sunroof, NO turbo. Both are problems waiting for a place happen.
The salesman said sorry for bothering you, maybe some time in the future we can help you.
I know the sunroof is going to cause problems, and I wouldn't use it anyway. Also, I will not drive a car with a glass roof. As far a turbos, I don't think that using a turbo to get the power using 4 cyl or
6 cyl to get the same power as a V8 or V6 is the way to go. Reliability is more important to me than power. My 3.8 is fine.
Am I the only one that feels this way?????
Your logic makes sense. The more complexity the more potential problems.

Maybe I've just been lucky but I've had three cars with a pano roof and no problems, no rattles. I also never open them so that may be the difference. Obviously others here had many issues so they are not perfect

I've had two turbo cars. The first I sold at 150,000 miles, the next at 50,000. Hyundai/Genesis does have a good warranty so no big concern there. Your concerns are legitimate but based on my previous experience I'm willing to take the risk.
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I just want to let you know where I stand.

I went to the local dealer to get some oil filters. A salesman met me at the door and said "We would really like to have your Genesis (2018 G80 BASE 3.8) and can make you a great deal on a new one". I said OK. Lets go pick out one.
First, I want a 21 or 22, NO sunroof, NO turbo. Both are problems waiting for a place happen.
The salesman said sorry for bothering you, maybe some time in the future we can help you.
I know the sunroof is going to cause problems, and I wouldn't use it anyway. Also, I will not drive a car with a glass roof. As far a turbos, I don't think that using a turbo to get the power using 4 cyl or
6 cyl to get the same power as a V8 or V6 is the way to go. Reliability is more important to me than power. My 3.8 is fine.
Am I the only one that feels this way?????
You make a good point.

If I really want to own a car for very long time without potential issues than I would avoid large panoramic sunroofs and turbo-charged engines as a rule as well.

The most reliable engines(if built well) are N/A V8 engines. Turbo engines will need more maintenance due to the turbos themselves having bearings and seals that can fail. Furthermore, the turbo problem could be even worst if the turbo units are specially built units only available from an specific automaker which can be very expensive since dealers rarely sell internal turbo parts like seals or bearings; which usually means a new turbo unit will have to be purchased.

If you trade or lease cars very often; then an turbo engine or powered sunroof should not be a problem. However, if keep or drive cars with over 100k miles; then the simpler the car the better if reliability is the main goal.
 
Genesis should've kept the V8 for one more generation. Lexus is doing that now with the IS, LC and RC models. There's even rumours of an LS V8 later this year.

I tend to trade my cars in when the warranty is done and right now, I'm having issues finding a new car. I'm forced to buy a G90 to get my drivetrain of choice and soon that choice will be gone too so I better act soon. Good thing sedans are not big sellers and I can get a G90 at a steep discount.

After my 2011 Sonata Turbo, I vowed never to buy another turbo car again. I've had 2 MR2 Turbos prior but those were sports cars, unreliability is part of the fun of a sports car but I can't have that for a daily driver. I've never had a turbo fail on me but the supporting hardware sure has. Wastegates getting stuck, hoses that can't hold the boost and pop off, etc. I've learned to keep a 10mm socket in the car to reattach hoses if they come off.

Even if turbos are reliable, the cars don't sound right and have to resort to fake engine sounds being pumped in through the stereo. When it comes to boosted V8's, they often sound neutered. The roar of AMG V8 has been muffled by that obstruction known as the turbocharger. If you've only heard the AMG turbo motors then you'll probably think it's normal but it's definitely muffled compared the old 6.2L.

I have no issues with electric but I can't go more than a few hours outside the city with one with the current charging infrastructure in Canada. I can't own one until there's a drastic improvement in that area.

I think this is one area where technology will come to the rescue and eventually people who want a V8 will be able to get one again. Porsche is already working on E-Gas. Fuel that's chemically identical to today's gasoline but instead of pumping it from the ground, it's made from carbon captured from the air. The cars will still emit CO2 but it won't be net new CO2 since it came from the air. It's not without fault as the process is energy-intensive to create this fuel but if it can be done with clean energy sources then this could be the answer to keeping our old classics running.
 
I will drive my 5.0 ultimate for a long time...it's paid for; 97000 km...no issues....no way I could replace without spending a lot of money especially now with used values increasing....

Best car I have ever owned....and yes I wish they would keep making (and improving...) the Tau engine....(But Edp is right...not going to happen...)
 
Everyone going electric is typical human short sightedness. We're going to strip the planet bare of the precious and rare earth metals if every car went electric. The amount of rare earth metals that go into a Tesla can produce 10 plug in hybrids
 
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