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Increased scuttle-butt about a Genesis-based luxury crossover.

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There has been talk about a luxury CUV from Hyundai for some time, but this indicates the likelihood of Genesis-RWD based CUV instead of FWD.


"The American boss has been quoted as saying that they're looking at an SUV... it might be just a planning thing, it might be studies into the possibilities of it..."

"It's an interesting subject: how do you take the Genesis brand – and move it and expand it? You can see that premium SUVs are doing very well."

When queried as to whether such a vehicle would be around the same footprint as Jeep's Grand Cherokee – another large SUV with longitudinal engine mounting in a monocoque shell – Thomas suggested the Genesis SUV would be "maybe a little bigger", if it reaches production. That would make it a seven-seater, without doubt. With a market as large as North America all in favour, the prospects of the Genesis SUV entering production are looking good – possibly styled along the same lines as the Intrado concept car (pictured).

"I'd imagine that the Americans would be very keen on it, given their market and the size of [the SUV]."

Thomas also indicated that by virtue of the USA being such an important market to Hyundai, it would only take the CEO there to thump his fist on the boardroom table and demand a larger SUV – and it would happen.

"Ultimately he has to answer to the Koreans, but he [Zuchowski] has got the size of market where he could talk it up – and if he wants a luxury SUV with a Genesis badge on it, it's likely he'll get one."

Thomas speculated that a Genesis SUV, sitting above the sedan would be priced somewhere above US $40,000, which would almost certainly place it in Luxury Car Tax territory in Australia – and well above the tax threshold. In fact, it could be expected to undercut rivals like the Audi Q7, BMW X5 and Mercedes GLE, but not necessarily by much.

Also, interesting comments from a BMW SVP.

Emerging Korean giant a bigger threat than resurgent Jaguar, Alfa or Volvo, says BMW

The Korean Hyundai-Kia group has been identified by BMW as a likely long-term competitor ahead of the potential threat posed by re-emerging luxury brands such as Jaguar, Volvo and Alfa Romeo.

Speaking in Melbourne last week, BMW Group's senior vice-president for Asia, Pacific and South Africa, Hendrik von Kuenheim, told motoring.com.au that ambitious plans announced by the likes of Jaguar and Alfa to take on BMW and its fellow German heavyweights Mercedes-Benz and Audi had to be assessed on the basis of ongoing performance.

“At the end of the day they also only cook with water and regardless how good their PR work is once in a while, when it comes down to quarterly sales results and profits results maybe the talk they had in the previous three months and the reality don’t match.

“I think if you want to go back and look at top-notch performance in the luxury car segment then BMW is the company to look for in the last 10 years.”

Von Kuenheim, whose role includes overseeing the Korean market, said attention should be paid to the rapidly emerging Hyundai-Kia group, especially by Japanese brands.

“I think the Hyundai-Kia motor group is incredibly aggressive, incredibly advancing,” he said.

“You see here a change of guards where some of the Korean product is replacing some of the Japanese product and eventually putting a challenge to BMW, clearly.”

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/bmw/bmw-beware-hyundai-kia-51107
 
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So we're looking at a Buick Enclave sized Genesis Crossover SUV. That would probably mean major problems for Buick (not to mention the Chevy Traverse and GMC Acadia - especially since it'll be rear wheel drive - and potentially an issue for BMW's X5 and other luxury branded SUVs...
 
Like many Boomers who are coming to favor CUV over sedans for their ease of entry and exit and comfortable higher seating position, I'd gladly move from my Genesis sedan to the Genesis CUV.
 
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Count me in as likely buyer if they use the Genny AWD system in a real SUV that can go off-road and tow capacity like a ford Explorer (which is up to 7500 lbs I believe).. And it should have a over 6k GVWR so it qualifies tax wise as a truck (section 129 and full depreciation for business use.. Which the Explorer is.. Believe it, a Chrysler minivan is over 6k GVWR). Should have both V6 and V8 options... Ok, and even a copycat V6 Wheezy EcoBoost V6 would be ok. 7 passengers.
 
Count me in as likely buyer if they use the Genny AWD system in a real SUV that can go off-road and tow capacity like a ford Explorer (which is up to 7500 lbs I believe).. And it should have a over 6k GVWR so it qualifies tax wise as a truck (section 129 and full depreciation for business use.. Which the Explorer is.. Believe it, a Chrysler minivan is over 6k GVWR). Should have both V6 and V8 options... Ok, and even a copycat V6 Wheezy EcoBoost V6 would be ok. 7 passengers.
So far, they seem to be talking about a CUV, not SUV, so you may be out of luck. But the majority of the people will be happy if it is a CUV.
 
So far, they seem to be talking about a CUV, not SUV, so you may be out of luck. But the majority of the people will be happy if it is a CUV.

Yea. Get that... But if on a Genny platform, the manly CUV would be easy. 😎 I have looked serious at the MKC with the larger Ecoboost. And the redesigned Edge and MKX.. The MKC with the T4 320 HP Eco Boost is very good. . The MKX and Edge with the larger 2.7 V6 Eco boost are also excellent. All CUV, slightly manly. None over 6k GVWR.. Anyway, if on the Genny platform, it will be by your definition, a SUV.. Heck the Explorer most consider a SUV, is based on FWD.

All good will see what comes out. Until then the Expedition stays in my fleet.
 
Thomas also indicated that by virtue of the USA being such an important market to Hyundai, it would only take the CEO there to thump his fist on the boardroom table and demand a larger SUV – and it would happen.
The last person who started pounding his fist at Hyundai Korean headquarters was former HMA President and CEO John Krafcik who was promptly shown the door. Krafcik was fired just 6 months after being named 2013 Automotive Executive of the Year. Krafcik now works for TrueCar.
 
In regards to the Genesis CUV being "manly" - that's certainly possible. The original Cadillac SRX was masculine. The current Buick Enclave is masculine. As it the BMW X5 and several others - I don't want to go into naming them all. But I imagine a Genesis CUV being masculine.

Here was my interpretation of the Genesis CUV:
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...and we were having a discussion here:
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12803

I think it would be a great option but I STRONGLY feel they need a hybrid setup for buyers who want good gas mileage. 20 city / 30 highway at least - 25/35 if possible.
 
sign me up. my wife enjoys suv/cuv better then cars anyways. I'd want it with a v8 and about 500hp and a AWD option.
 
The last person who started pounding his fist at Hyundai Korean headquarters was former HMA President and CEO John Krafcik who was promptly shown the door. Krafcik was fired just 6 months after being named 2013 Automotive Executive of the Year. Krafcik now works for TrueCar.

Yeah, I know, but think the letting go of Krafcik had a lot to do w/ not wanting to lose Zuchowski, the current CEO of HMA, who had been the VP of sales and likely would have jumped ship if he hadn't gotten the top job.



In regards to the Genesis CUV being "manly" - that's certainly possible. The original Cadillac SRX was masculine. The current Buick Enclave is masculine. As it the BMW X5 and several others - I don't want to go into naming them all. But I imagine a Genesis CUV being masculine.

I think it would be a great option but I STRONGLY feel they need a hybrid setup for buyers who want good gas mileage. 20 city / 30 highway at least - 25/35 if possible.

Masculine (linear lines) is likely (at least the front end - maybe more elements from the front of the HCD-14 concept (but more truckified)?

Wonder how prospective buyers would feel about an e-4WD set-up instead of a traditional AWD + hybrid? (As most buyer are looking for AWD/4WD for the times when they get hit w/ snow, most of the time, don't need it.)

Hyundai is reportedly working on adding the e-4WD system to the refreshed Santa Fe and the Kia Soul variant, the Trail'ster, if it makes it to production would also have it.
 
Yeah, I know, but think the letting go of Krafcik had a lot to do w/ not wanting to lose Zuchowski, the current CEO of HMA, who had been the VP of sales and likely would have jumped ship if he hadn't gotten the top job.
I don't think so. Zuchowski doesn't look like or act like a CEO, which is why Hyundai likes him. I haven't seen any genius marketing campaigns since he took over, so I don't think that is why Krafcik was let go.
 
In regards to the Genesis CUV being "manly" - that's certainly possible. The original Cadillac SRX was masculine. The current Buick Enclave is masculine. As it the BMW X5 and several others - I don't want to go into naming them all. But I imagine a Genesis CUV being masculine.

Here was my interpretation of the Genesis CUV:
attachment.php


...and we were having a discussion here:
http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12803

I think it would be a great option but I STRONGLY feel they need a hybrid setup for buyers who want good gas mileage. 20 city / 30 highway at least - 25/35 if possible.

Yea, agree..

Your pic is nice.. But something for me raises a eyebrow.. Maybe it is the slight look of a last generation or two Honda minivan from the back.. If this is a consumer clinic from Hyundai should look like, please take this into consideration. Yes, limits on what can be done with a back end of a CUV.. We expect Hyundai to lead in styling with their premium product. Which is why the current Honda Accord copied the look of the 2009-2011 Genny in the rear lights, bumper, and very back end..
 
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