Lifting up the car

[kayroe]

Does anyone have any ideas on where to put the supports under the car after jacking up the car with a regular garage jack? I'm not seeing any solid places to place the weight of the car after jacking it up.

 

[mikec]

Taking a look through the owners manual and the "general information" section of the factory service manuals showed next to nothing - surprising. The only thing shown is using a shop style jack system (those with the big "X" arms to lift the car) to support the car at the same points you'd use the emergency (spare tire) jack. Hyundai calls for special adapters on the "X" arms that mimic the top of the emergency jack.

So you're right... there doesn't appear to be special provisions for basic jack stands... they're not documented if they do exist. Nor are any special floor jacking points documented.

mike c.

 

[mcginnpm]

Try these spots.

I use my floor jack at these points when I'm working in my garage at home. When I'm at the shop I put the "X-arms" at the points published in the owner's manual with rubber lift points installed on the arms to protect the car body.

Points of caution: At point A, be careful of the differential. At point B there is a lot of slippage potential depending on the design of your floor jack. At point C you are jacking over a bolt head. Appropriate precautions should be taken.

 

[mcginnpm]

And here's what mikec was talking about with the "X-Arm" shop lift...

 

[rtburgess1]

I assume non-Hyundai/Genesis repair shops probably don't have the "X lift" adaptors mentioned. Could you describe them? Does anyone have any info on where suitable adaptors can be found/purchased? Many thanks.

 

[mcginnpm]

If you look at the jack-stand that came with the car, it has a slot in the "lift head" that fits over the weld flange on the bottom of the car at the designated lift points. I've used the generic rubber coated lift points on the X-Arm lift at my shop with no issues...no damage to the weld flanges. If you want to avoid any load on the weld flanges, you just need something with a groove or channel that is deeper than the width of the weld flange and which is made out of something strong enough to accept the load of the car when it is on the lift. You don't want something that will crush or split on you when the car is up in the air.

 

[rtburgess1]

Thanks for the info Mike!

 

[bu341wm]

Is there any problem placing jack stands under the inner pivot points for the lower control arms? This seems the most logical area for support for a home garage oil change.

 

[mcginnpm]

Is there any problem placing jack stands under the inner pivot points for the lower control arms? This seems the most logical area for support for a home garage oil change.

I did that once. Didn't have any issues, but I just didn't feel good about it. Not sure if doing so is putting any strange forces on the bushing, so I don't do it anymore. I've found that using a floor jack on point C in the PDF I posted earlier works just fine.

 

[BobbyC777]

Re: Lifting up the car (rear end)

Gang -

I've had pretty good luck jacking up the front of the vehicle and getting jack stands securely placed. Thanks especially to mcginnpm (Mike) for his posts and the excellent PDF of the underside of the car.

Now I want to raise the rear end. The PDF shows jacking on a cross member which is right behind the differential. Unlike in the front where the cross member is a fully boxed structure with a nice flat horizontal surface, this one is not. The jacking surface would be a narrow edge - not a nice flat surface to help distribute the load. (From the pictures I see of the Genesis Couple it looks like that rear cross member is a boxed structure with a horizontal surface - but I digress.)

The bottom of the differential housing looks like it would present more surface area to jack on. What do you say about that? Is it OK to jack on the differential housing?

Once the car is up in the air it looks like the control arms present a good surface for the jack stands.

Thanks!

Bob

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[mereed1955]

Re: Lifting up the car (rear end)

The 2016 owners manual has a picture of jacking locations on page 6-17. I assume you have a floorjack and are worried about bending the body seams.
I purchased a rubber donut from Amazon that goes on the floorjack and has a slit cut in it to clear the body seams. Hope that helps

 

[BobbyC777]

Re: Lifting up the car (rear end)

The 2016 owners manual has a picture of jacking locations on page 6-17. I assume you have a floorjack and are worried about bending the body seams.
I purchased a rubber donut from Amazon that goes on the floorjack and has a slit cut in it to clear the body seams. Hope that helps

Mereed -

Thanks for your response. Yes, I am trying to avoid damage to the pinch welds on my 2011 Genesis. Most of what I've seen on Amazon are disks (similar to hockey pucks) with slits in them but my impression was that the cutouts were not deep enough to avoid contact with the bottom of the pinch welds. Without breaking any forum rules are there any keywords which would help me find what you purchased on Amazon? I have not looked at how the newer models are designed but the lift point issues may very well be the same.

I was thinking of fabricating something myself but would rather purchase something which works.

I'd still like to get opinions from others about jacking on the differential as that might be a little easier. But I don't want to do any damage by putting the floor jack in the wrong place.

Bob

 

[mereed1955]

Re: Lifting up the car (rear end)

Hello Bob,
Here is a link to what I purchased from Amazon, works well with my floorjack.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...iversal+Rubber+Jack+Pad+Frame+Rail+Protector+

Hope this helps,
Mark

 

[BobbyC777]

Re: Lifting up the car (rear end)

Here is a link to what I purchased from Amazon, works well with my floorjack.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...iversal+Rubber+Jack+Pad+Frame+Rail+Protector+

Mark,

Thanks. That link brought up a number of different pads. Did yours have a rectangular notch or V-shaped one? Is the notch deep enough that there is not contact between the adapter and the bottom of the pinch weld? Even if there were I'm sure there is a little give to the rubber which would prevent damage to the pinch weld.

Again, thanks!

BobC

 

[mereed1955]

Re: Lifting up the car (rear end)

Bob,

The one I have is about 4" dia and 2" thick with a v-groove in it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019RKCQX2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Mark

 

[BobbyC777]

Thanks, Mark. Looks great and good reviews!

BobC