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Need information on home charging stations

Msmbruce69

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Hey, I am a new GV60 owner. I am the 2nd owner of this GV60 so that means that I missed out of the Free charges for Electried America. That offer is only available to the original owner. Now I have to look for a home charging station and I am not sure which one to purchase. There are so many available but I want to make sure that I purchase the correct station for my new car. I called 3 dealerships and no one was able to tell me which charging station to purchase. They all told me to go to the website. That was not helpful to me. Can anyone help me?
 
Are you already wired in your garage for a charger? If yes, what amp line do you have? If no, what amp line do you want/plan to put in? Incidentally, this may be controlled by how many circuits and at what powers you already have and if you are willing to increase your power supply.

I put in a 50 amp line and that means I get 40 amps continuous. Plenty for a GV60. I have a Chargepoint EVSE (charger unit). It works fine for me.

Hard wired is a tad better but I went with a plug although I am not plugging it in and out. But if I had to replace the unit, I wouldn't need to call an electrician.
 
Are you already wired in your garage for a charger? If yes, what amp line do you have? If no, what amp line do you want/plan to put in? Incidentally, this may be controlled by how many circuits and at what powers you already have and if you are willing to increase your power supply.

I put in a 50 amp line and that means I get 40 amps continuous. Plenty for a GV60. I have a Chargepoint EVSE (charger unit). It works fine for me.

Hard wired is a tad better but I went with a plug although I am not plugging it in and out. But if I had to replace the unit, I wouldn't need to call an electrician.
Thank you for the info.
 
The truth is, you can likely get by charging with your 120V travel charger.

I would wait before making a decision. The charging world is currently in flux. You might be wise to see where the dust settles on NACS before buying hardware. Yes, your current vehicle uses a J-plug, but perhaps there will soon be some option that could meet the needs of your current vehicle while future-proofing things for you next.
 
The truth is, you can likely get by charging with your 120V travel charger.

I would wait before making a decision. The charging world is currently in flux. You might be wise to see where the dust settles on NACS before buying hardware. Yes, your current vehicle uses a J-plug, but perhaps there will soon be some option that could meet the needs of your current vehicle while future-proofing things for you next.
That depends upon the poster's driving pattern and needs and the convenient availability of public chargers.
 
Hey, I am a new GV60 owner. I am the 2nd owner of this GV60 so that means that I missed out of the Free charges for Electried America. That offer is only available to the original owner. Now I have to look for a home charging station and I am not sure which one to purchase. There are so many available but I want to make sure that I purchase the correct station for my new car. I called 3 dealerships and no one was able to tell me which charging station to purchase. They all told me to go to the website. That was not helpful to me. Can anyone help me?

Tl;dr:

Best value to cost ratio: Emporia 48A
Best cable / best holster / ubiquity: ChargePoint Home Flex
Most configurable charge rates (change charge rate in app between 6-48A at anytime) / sleekest look / best app: Wallbox Pulsar 40A or 48A

Chargers to avoid:
Juicebox - Quality issues
Tesla J1772 Charger - not configurable (no app)

Suggest looking up your utility company if they provide off-peak credit to specific charger brands, and go with those.

If you are mounting charger outside to be accessible to the public for charged charging, go with ChargePoint.

If you can wait, then wait. The entire industry is moving towards NACS plugs and J1772 will likely be phased out in the next 5 years. Might be smarter to put in a NACS charger, then use a J1772 adapter. YMMV.

Personally, I got the Wallbox, see the UX/UI below:

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Hey, I am a new GV60 owner. I am the 2nd owner of this GV60 so that means that I missed out of the Free charges for Electried America. That offer is only available to the original owner. Now I have to look for a home charging station and I am not sure which one to purchase. There are so many available but I want to make sure that I purchase the correct station for my new car. I called 3 dealerships and no one was able to tell me which charging station to purchase. They all told me to go to the website. That was not helpful to me. Can anyone help me?
I have a Charge Point Home Charger. It charges fine. The only issue is that Charge Point had an outage that lasted a few weeks that lost the WiFi ability. Check out this You Tube Channel "State of Charge." He has tested over 2 dozen different EV chargers.
 
Tl;dr:

Best value to cost ratio: Emporia 48A
Best cable / best holster / ubiquity: ChargePoint Home Flex
Most configurable charge rates (change charge rate in app between 6-48A at anytime) / sleekest look / best app: Wallbox Pulsar 40A or 48A

Chargers to avoid:
Juicebox - Quality issues
Tesla J1772 Charger - not configurable (no app)

Suggest looking up your utility company if they provide off-peak credit to specific charger brands, and go with those.

If you are mounting charger outside to be accessible to the public for charged charging, go with ChargePoint.

If you can wait, then wait. The entire industry is moving towards NACS plugs and J1772 will likely be phased out in the next 5 years. Might be smarter to put in a NACS charger, then use a J1772 adapter. YMMV.

Personally, I got the Wallbox, see the UX/UI below:

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The entire industry is certainly not moving to the NACS standard and in any event as the industry matured there will be adapters to meet any condition.
 
We purchased a Lectron VBox from Amazon and installed a 240 V wall outlet. We have a 40 amp breaker and the GV60 charges at 34 amps, which is good for about 10kwh per hour of charging time, so about 5 hours to typically go from 40% to 90%, which is a typical charging pattern for us.
 
The entire industry is certainly not moving to the NACS standard and in any event as the industry matured there will be adapters to meet any condition.

Given that this forum caters mostly North America, I beg to differ. At this point NACS is a matter of time. Adapters are suboptimal, why spend money on something that will be obsoleted in less than 5 years?

I'd rather put in an NACS charger, then use an adapter back to J1772, rather than having to upgrade / retrofit the charger years down the line. Of course, that's totally up to personal preference.
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Given that this forum caters mostly North America, I beg to differ. At this point NACS is a matter of time. Adapters are suboptimal, why spend money on something that will be obsoleted in less than 5 years?
It appears that most posters are from NA, but I'd stop short of saying that the forum is mostly for those of us in NA. However, THIS THREAD is certainly all about NA.

The entire industry is certainly not moving to the NACS standard and in any event as the industry matured there will be adapters to meet any condition.
CCS is dying in NA. I wouldn't worry about not being able to find charging for my CCS car, but I've got to agree with @azurecardinal . If buying new, why buy into a dying standard? CCS cars will get by for the next few years with adapters, but why commit yourself to using one perpetually?

This reminds me of the end of the Blu Ray / HD DVD war. Sony paid a couple big movie studios to release movies in BD, exclusively, and over the next few months, there was announcement after announcement of various companies ceasing to support HD DVD.
 
I have a GV80 Prestige but recently bought an Ioniq5 and I was faced with the same question as the original poster: "what charger should I buy?" After reviewing most of the online reviews, I chose the ChargePoint. It seems to have mostly good reviews and has features that appeal to most EV drivers. I have yet to buy it, as I'm waiting for my electrician to run the wiring from the electrical panel to a new outlet in my garage.

Insofar as all the recent fuss about the NACS charger design, I'm not concerned. I want a charger that will charge the EV I have now, not some hypothetical future car.
 
Tl;dr:

Best value to cost ratio: Emporia 48A
Best cable / best holster / ubiquity: ChargePoint Home Flex
Most configurable charge rates (change charge rate in app between 6-48A at anytime) / sleekest look / best app: Wallbox Pulsar 40A or 48A

Chargers to avoid:
Juicebox - Quality issues
Tesla J1772 Charger - not configurable (no app)

Suggest looking up your utility company if they provide off-peak credit to specific charger brands, and go with those.

If you are mounting charger outside to be accessible to the public for charged charging, go with ChargePoint.

If you can wait, then wait. The entire industry is moving towards NACS plugs and J1772 will likely be phased out in the next 5 years. Might be smarter to put in a NACS charger, then use a J1772 adapter. YMMV.

Personally, I got the Wallbox, see the UX/UI below:

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Thank you that was very help. I just purchase the Emporia 48 A but we have not had it installed yet. How much is it going to cost for an electrician to install?
 
Given that this forum caters mostly North America, I beg to differ. At this point NACS is a matter of time. Adapters are suboptimal, why spend money on something that will be obsoleted in less than 5 years?

I'd rather put in an NACS charger, then use an adapter back to J1772, rather than having to upgrade / retrofit the charger years down the line. Of course, that's totally up to personal preference.
Thank you but I can not wait until then. Do you know when the NCAS will be standard?
 
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Thank you but I can not wait until then. Do you know when the NCAS will be standard?
Nobody knows. Tesla, and by that I mean Musk, is mercurial and flip flops on everything he is involved in.
Until Tesla is willing to to license their technology freely and give up control it will be a long time before NACS becomes the only standard in North America. So if you have a CCS car today I suggest you get a CCS charger. If NACS ever does become the standard many many years from now you will be able to purchase an adapter to convert or replace your CCS nozzle.
 
Thank you but I can not wait until then. Do you know when the NCAS will be standard?
NACS is (and I suspect, forever will be) “standard” in name only. It will likely be almost everything that is installed from here forward.
For Level 2 charging purposes, there is no need to wait. You can pick up a Tesla charger right now.
 
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Nobody knows. Tesla, and by that I mean Musk, is mercurial and flip flops on everything he is involved in.
Until Tesla is willing to to license their technology freely and give up control it will be a long time before NACS becomes the only standard in North America. So if you have a CCS car today I suggest you get a CCS charger. If NACS ever does become the standard many many years from now you will be able to purchase an adapter to convert or replace your CCS nozzle.
I realise he is random with his antics but he has posted this previously.

Note from Elon Musk​

All Our Patent Are Belong To You​

Elon Musk, CEO June 12, 2014

Yesterday, there was a wall of Tesla patents in the lobby of our Palo Alto headquarters. That is no longer the case. They have been removed, in the spirit of the open source movement, for the advancement of electric vehicle technology.
Tesla Motors was created to accelerate the advent of sustainable transport. If we clear a path to the creation of compelling electric vehicles, but then lay intellectual property landmines behind us to inhibit others, we are acting in a manner contrary to that goal. Tesla will not initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology.
When I started out with my first company, Zip2, I thought patents were a good thing and worked hard to obtain them. And maybe they were good long ago, but too often these days they serve merely to stifle progress, entrench the positions of giant corporations and enrich those in the legal profession, rather than the actual inventors. After Zip2, when I realized that receiving a patent really just meant that you bought a lottery ticket to a lawsuit, I avoided them whenever possible.
At Tesla, however, we felt compelled to create patents out of concern that the big car companies would copy our technology and then use their massive manufacturing, sales and marketing power to overwhelm Tesla. We couldn’t have been more wrong. The unfortunate reality is the opposite: electric car programs (or programs for any vehicle that doesn’t burn hydrocarbons) at the major manufacturers are small to non-existent, constituting an average of far less than 1% of their total vehicle sales.
At best, the large automakers are producing electric cars with limited range in limited volume. Some produce no zero emission cars at all.
Given that annual new vehicle production is approaching 100 million per year and the global fleet is approximately 2 billion cars, it is impossible for Tesla to build electric cars fast enough to address the carbon crisis. By the same token, it means the market is enormous. Our true competition is not the small trickle of non-Tesla electric cars being produced, but rather the enormous flood of gasoline cars pouring out of the world’s factories every day.
We believe that Tesla, other companies making electric cars, and the world would all benefit from a common, rapidly-evolving technology platform.
Technology leadership is not defined by patents, which history has repeatedly shown to be small protection indeed against a determined competitor, but rather by the ability of a company to attract and motivate the world’s most talented engineers. We believe that applying the open source philosophy to our patents will strengthen rather than diminish Tesla’s position in this regard.
 
Hey, I am a new GV60 owner. I am the 2nd owner of this GV60 so that means that I missed out of the Free charges for Electried America. That offer is only available to the original owner. Now I have to look for a home charging station and I am not sure which one to purchase. There are so many available but I want to make sure that I purchase the correct station for my new car. I called 3 dealerships and no one was able to tell me which charging station to purchase. They all told me to go to the website. That was not helpful to me. Can anyone help me?
Maybe you don't need a home charging station. Have a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed, buy a Tesla Mobile connector $250 and TeslaTap converter (NACS to J1772) $150 . This is what I use for my GV70ev. It charges at around 7.2 kw/hr which is about 23 miles/hour. You can set the max charge value then immediately start start charging or schedule charging to start during offpeak times using the Genesis app. Sure a full service home charging station has lots of features, but do you need them? Throw the Teslatap adapter in your ev and it will allow you to charge your GV60 at any Tesla Destination charger.
 
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Tl;dr:

Best value to cost ratio: Emporia 48A
Best cable / best holster / ubiquity: ChargePoint Home Flex
Most configurable charge rates (change charge rate in app between 6-48A at anytime) / sleekest look / best app: Wallbox Pulsar 40A or 48A

Chargers to avoid:
Juicebox - Quality issues
Tesla J1772 Charger - not configurable (no app)

Suggest looking up your utility company if they provide off-peak credit to specific charger brands, and go with those.

If you are mounting charger outside to be accessible to the public for charged charging, go with ChargePoint.

If you can wait, then wait. The entire industry is moving towards NACS plugs and J1772 will likely be phased out in the next 5 years. Might be smarter to put in a NACS charger, then use a J1772 adapter. YMMV.

Personally, I got the Wallbox, see the UX/UI below:

View attachment 53999View attachment 54000View attachment 54001View attachment 54002
I disagree with you about the Tesla Mobile Connector. I have a Tesla mobile connector because I ordered and then cancelled a Model 3 (couldn't stomach doing business with Musk after reading some of his latest rants). I added a Teslatap adapter and it works just fine with my GV70 ev. I use my GV70 to specify the max to charge the battery to, after dinner I plug the Mobile charger into the Nema 14-50 outlet I had installed and it takes about 5 1/2 hrs to charge to 80%.
I don't need to track my charging cost but I could simply divide the miles added by 3.2 and then multiply that by my kwh rate to get the charging cost. Your EV automatically will limit the charging amperage to what it can handle
One advantage is that I can take the Teslatap adapter with me and charge my GV70 at any Tesla destination charger.
 
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