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[jarred52]

I took delivery of my 2015 primer grey V6 Geny (Ghost) in late December and have 3,600 miles on her now.

Mileage: After a proper brake-in, my in-town mileage is in the 20-22 range and my trip mileage has been in the 30-31.5 range. All on top tier regular.

Problems: Only one. The antenna on the nav system died. The part was ordered and fixed in 2 days.

Dealer service: I purchased the Ghost from a small, newer dealership, Young Hyundai, in Rockwall, TX. It's a "no pressure dealership" with friendly, helpful sales and service. I am a synthetic oil fanatic and did not like the fact that the Ghost did not come with a factory fill of synthetic. I discussed this with the service manager who told me that I could furnish the Mobile One 5-W30 (my preferred oil) and he would do my oil changes for $20 plus filter and tax. I had this done at 1,500 miles. I have since gotten to know the manager and service advisor; both friendly, helpful guys who have answered my large number of questions. The MB dealership that I had used was not nearly as accommodating and I was always dealing with different people.

Tire "recall". I received my letter earlier this week. While I prefer Michelin tires, I am not really pleased with the choice of the MXM4 as I would prefer a low rolling resistance tire. I find all the conspiracy theories on the board to be laughable. A maximum speed control setting is built into all new vehicles and is set at or below the speed rating of the original equipment tires. It does not affect the vehicle's performance except to prohibit the vehicle from exceeding that limit. My MB E320cdi had a 130 limit while that same vehicle sold in Europe had a 150 limit. The Geny is not a track car so I have no need or intention to exceed 130 mph. For those who want to keep the 150 top speed, the free tire replacement is optional. While I like the standard tires so far, I am concerned what the noise level may be after 30,000 miles, I will certainly opt for the free Michelins.

So far, a very happy owner.

 

[kn5owa]

That's a good deal on the oil change - I've been using Mobil 1 since it was introduced around '74=>'75 -- best thing ever invented. Still do my own changes.

Rockwall = a suburb of big "D" - next to the lake - right?

 

[jarred52]

Thanks for the welcome. Yes, Rockwall is 25 miles east of Dallas on I30 on the east bank of Lake Ray Hubbard.

I too have used nothing but Mobile 1 since late 70s. I even use it in my lawn mower. I used to do my own oil changes but I have no way to get the Geny up in the air to get the shield off. Too old to be crawling around on my back anymore.

 

[kn5owa]

Thanks for the welcome. Yes, Rockwall is 25 miles east of Dallas on I30 on the east bank of Lake Ray Hubbard.

I too have used nothing but Mobile 1 since late 70s. I even use it in my lawn mower. I used to do my own oil changes but I have no way to get the Geny up in the air to get the shield off. Too old to be crawling around on my back anymore.

They didn't make the oil/filter change any easier on the 5.0 - but I'm gonna tackle it anyway in the fall. And I'm 74. I went to SMU one semester in 1961 -nicest time of my life - only lake around then was the small one not too far from the campus - I forget the name.

 

[DFWGenny]

I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, I view it as full disclosure. If this is their new OEM tire for the V6, then they need to update the the top speed of the V6. If they are sourcing a new OEM tire properly spec'd to the car's capability, why are they changing out existing customer's with a lower rated tire?

I realize that it is just a software setting on the top speed, but then do I have to pay to get it reset when I replace the new tires with properly rated tires? I think I will pass on the offer as I live in a warm enough part of the country that I haven't noticed the issue. I will replace them with properly rated tires with full tread when the time comes.

 

[Nikgen]

I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, I view it as full disclosure. If this is their new OEM tire for the V6, then they need to update the the top speed of the V6. If they are sourcing a new OEM tire properly spec'd to the car's capability, why are they changing out existing customer's with a lower rated tire?

I realize that it is just a software setting on the top speed, but then do I have to pay to get it reset when I replace the new tires with properly rated tires? I think I will pass on the offer as I live in a warm enough part of the country that I haven't noticed the issue. I will replace them with properly rated tires with full tread when the time comes.

Agreed - there is no conspiracy theory. Some of us just question Hyundai's real motivation here and are calling them out on a few things they have not been transparent on, like:

- What, exactly, is the issue with the Hankooks that is driving the tire change? Is it flatspotting in cold weather or is it something else? In the letter that's been posted here, they claim it's because they received a small number of comments about tire noise and vibration that can be amplified by road conditions - That sure doesn't sound like flat spotting?

- Why did they choose to replace Ultra Performance AS tires with Grand Touring AS tires?

- Why did they replace "W" speed rated tires with lower speed rated tires requiring the ECU to be reflashed to lower top end speed limit? Why did they only do this on the V6?

I don't get why some people feel that asking for answers to these questions is suggesting a conspiracy theory?

 

[Nikgen]

I took delivery of my 2015 primer grey V6 Geny (Ghost) in late December and have 3,600 miles on her now.

Mileage: After a proper brake-in, my in-town mileage is in the 20-22 range and my trip mileage has been in the 30-31.5 range. All on top tier regular.

Problems: Only one. The antenna on the nav system died. The part was ordered and fixed in 2 days.

Dealer service: I purchased the Ghost from a small, newer dealership, Young Hyundai, in Rockwall, TX. It's a "no pressure dealership" with friendly, helpful sales and service. I am a synthetic oil fanatic and did not like the fact that the Ghost did not come with a factory fill of synthetic. I discussed this with the service manager who told me that I could furnish the Mobile One 5-W30 (my preferred oil) and he would do my oil changes for $20 plus filter and tax. I had this done at 1,500 miles. I have since gotten to know the manager and service advisor; both friendly, helpful guys who have answered my large number of questions. The MB dealership that I had used was not nearly as accommodating and I was always dealing with different people.

Tire "recall". I received my letter earlier this week. While I prefer Michelin tires, I am not really pleased with the choice of the MXM4 as I would prefer a low rolling resistance tire. I find all the conspiracy theories on the board to be laughable. A maximum speed control setting is built into all new vehicles and is set at or below the speed rating of the original equipment tires. It does not affect the vehicle's performance except to prohibit the vehicle from exceeding that limit. My MB E320cdi had a 130 limit while that same vehicle sold in Europe had a 150 limit. The Geny is not a track car so I have no need or intention to exceed 130 mph. For those who want to keep the 150 top speed, the free tire replacement is optional. While I like the standard tires so far, I am concerned what the noise level may be after 30,000 miles, I will certainly opt for the free Michelins.

So far, a very happy owner.

What is "primer" gray? Also, what is Ghost - did you actually name your car?

 

[DRS]

I wouldn't call it a conspiracy, I view it as full disclosure. If this is their new OEM tire for the V6, then they need to update the the top speed of the V6. If they are sourcing a new OEM tire properly spec'd to the car's capability, why are they changing out existing customer's with a lower rated tire?

I realize that it is just a software setting on the top speed, but then do I have to pay to get it reset when I replace the new tires with properly rated tires? I think I will pass on the offer as I live in a warm enough part of the country that I haven't noticed the issue. I will replace them with properly rated tires with full tread when the time comes.

Hey, cut out your Alex Jones conspiracy stuff.. Why would you want a car that could go over 130mph? Get in lock step with the goose steps.

You bought a V6 that can go well past 150, now if you capitulate, lose this potential. Hey, all new V6 buyers moving forward will not be "allowed" to up their speeds. They are stuck. And that CPU load is encrypted, and not able to be increased. My dealer also said, they will be prevented from turning speeds back up on those with current V6 who has been turned down (150mph). They suspect that there will be a TSB to do unannounced roll back to speeds on all V6... Thus compatible with Grecian Formula buying group. Done at a routine service. And it will not be reversible. Remember, the tuner crowd has not hand broken the CPU yet.

Those who claim to mock people under the propaganda term "conspiracy theorists", will be happy with their new vinyl top, Opera windows installed with their new tires.

To those who claim that for the old, it is too hard to change the oil, petition the .gov for Hyundai to be under ADA rules. 😎

All the mocking of youthful excitement by the blue rinse set, need to get over their disdain and jealousy of millennials, and GenXers..

Some days I am ashamed to be part of (just barely) the AARP qualified group. 👴🏻

 

[Alwaysforward]

aboard the forum. Great place for all things Genesis.

 

[Midnightsun]

One thing for sure is the Gen 1, although a lighter car and more HP, was capable of 156 MPH IF the speedo was reading correctly however most of the time they read a little fast so I say it was 150mph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXlIMmBRq3E

The question remains, is the Gen 2 even capable of hitting 150? My guess is it may fall short but not by far. My Mercedes SL320 is the 6 cylinder version of the SL500 which is the 8 cylinder where 110hp separated the 2 which are both speed limited to 150mph however the top speed of my 6 is 147mph.

At the end of the day, who cares. I have never ventured or will ever venture into this territory. 110mph maybe but that's about it.

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[Nikgen]

One thing for sure is the Gen 1, although a lighter car and more HP, was capable of 156 MPH IF the speedo was reading correctly however most of the time they read a little fast so I say it was 150mph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXlIMmBRq3E

The question remains, is the Gen 2 even capable of hitting 150? My guess is it may fall short but not by far. My Mercedes SL320 is the 6 cylinder version of the SL500 which is the 8 cylinder where 110hp separated the 2 which are both speed limited to 150mph however the top speed of my 6 is 147mph.

At the end of the day, who cares. I have never ventured or will ever venture into this territory. 110mph maybe but that's about it.

I don't think anyone is planning on driving their V6 to 150 mph (as you say - if it can even hit that speed?). But the fact remains that they released the car with "W" rated Ultra Performance class tires after much development and testing and now they are switchimg to a different Performance category and downgrading the V6 with a lower speed rated tire. Why? Even if it has no tangible effect on daily driving, it's a questionable move from a PR point of view...

 

[StarPower]

Tire choice has a huge effect on how the car drives and handles at all speeds. My guess is that the replacement tire they found that had the right combination of wet and dry traction, load rating, noise, wear, and sidewall thickness (the things that 99% of Genesis drivers will notice) just happened to have a lower speed rating. Since most Genesis owners will never get close to 130 MPH, this was viewed as an acceptable tradeoff.

I suspect that the instructions to change the speed limiter are a part of the tire replacement. Dealers aren't likely to do something unless there's a procedure telling them to. If you source your own tires and don't get the recall done, they might not change the speed limiter.

Some Mercedes dealerships would raise the speed limiter of AMG cars to 186 MPH if you had Y rated tires (you may have had to sign a waiver). I doubt Hyundai would ever do this.

 

[ksoze]

My guess is that the replacement tire they found that had the right combination of wet and dry traction, load rating, noise, wear, and sidewall thickness...

Not quite, at least as far as user reviews on Tirerack. Noise, ride quality and traction were all rated higher with the original Hankook's as compared to the Michelins.

 

[jarred52]

What is "primer" gray? Also, what is Ghost - did you actually name your car?

"Primer" gray is my term for Parisian gray. Yes, I name my cars. My Benz was "Greta", my Avalon was "Yoda".

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Welcome aboard, Jarred! Thank you for signing up!

 

[kn5owa]

I don't think anyone is planning on driving their V6 to 150 mph (as you say - if it can even hit that speed?). But the fact remains that they released the car with "W" rated Ultra Performance class tires after much development and testing and now they are switchimg to a different Performance category and downgrading the V6 with a lower speed rated tire. Why? Even if it has no tangible effect on daily driving, it's a questionable move from a PR point of view...

The "Why" to me, at least, is abundantly clear. This is a lawyer driven engineering decision - anytime something truly weird is encountered in the automotive world, you can count on lawyers being involved, and this "syncing" of tires and engine performance is just a little bit weird. Another reason for doing the engine modification is because they can. The modern computers in cars make it possible.

If somebody actually took the old family sedan to 150 mph and a tire rated at less than that speed blew out for whatever reason, and killed or maimed someone, the lawsuit would be totally outta sight.

Personally, I am glad that they didn't cap the speed on my 5.0 because I would be forever suspicious of an overall degradation in performance. At least I hope they left the engine alone.

 

[FastDEW1]

I had a 2014 Mercedes S550 with the bi-turbo V8. It would beat a Genesis (including 5.0) silly in power and acceleration. The top speed was capped at 130mph due to run flats from factory. I never cared because I never drive 130mph. The car had crazy power but the top speed being limited to "only" 130mph never caused me to hide my head in shame.

Why does it matter? It doesn't change the performance of the car.