^ true for the most part when it comes to non-demo units, but some of the 'demo' units (still considered 'new' in Canada) are going far below MSRP, much more than i would have expected for a hot new model.You should probably specify US in your thread title to keep it clean. And us Canadian's so far have all paid either the price online or $1000 less so there isn't anything exciting to share there.
I don't know who bought the G70 but those numbers are really scary. Genesis USA is NOT SELLING cars. What the heck they are planning to do? I've been an early Genesis adopter, my first Genesis was a 2014 Hyundai Genesis sedan then I got my 2016. I was able to see the potential of this car since the beginning but since the split from Hyundai the only thing I've seen is one sh..t after another. Higher prices, bad leasing offers, Concierge attention inside a crowded Hyundai dealer w/o even giving you a cup of coffe free (you have to buy it in a vending machine), rude treatment from the service department workers. Nothing is good with Genesis USA nowday.Apparently there was one, and only one, G70 sold in September. Was it anyone on this forum??
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Bad prices? SURE YES! I bet you whatever that Ipaid at least $5000 less for my 2016 Hyundai Genesis back in 2016 that what you paid for yor G80 being the same car.Higher prices? When was the last time you saw prices go down in a successive MY?
Bad leasing? What numbers are you referring to? Are there any out for the G70?
Bad dealer? You need to find another dealer, there are good ones out there. Which one hurt you?
Agree, even the dealer admitted this and said retention rates are not as high as they want because those who leased 2015/2016 genesis models with huge incentives and paid 300-400/monthly are not leasing the new genesis models due to crap incentives from genesisusa. I really like their cars but genesisusa is not a threat to the germans at this point with their head scratching antics, which is a shameBad prices? SURE YES! I bet you whatever that Ipaid at least $5000 less for my 2016 Hyundai Genesis back in 2016 that what you paid for yor G80 being the same car.
Bad Service/ Customer service dealers? ALL of them here in South Florida.
Bad leases? Of course. Genesis Residuals are sh..t 49% in a 2018 G80 3.3 t Sport is one of the lowest in the market. 2 years ago Genesis Teck/ Ultimate leases were around $400-450 montly (taxes included), zero down. Now for getting those payments you need to put at least $4000 down
Thanks...so. you dont think when they 19's drop the 18 g80 wont come down like 10k? I've never really researched/waiting to buy a car like I am now (usually just go to car shopping and buy what I see...was 25 last I bought I a car so wasnt super experienced). So, I dont know how much cars come down when the newer year drops.To me, 10K off sticker sound pretty good. I'd go for it.
as to the 70 v 80, depends on your needs and wants. I've not seen the G70 in person yet, but this is my take. The 70 is smaller, lighter, cheaper, perhaps a little sportier to appeal; to a younger demographic. I rarely have anyone in the back seat so that is not an issue for me if it is a bit tighter. I sometimes have to fit a wheelchair in the trunk so the 80 suites my needs better.
Right now the deals for the G70 don't exist so you can get a 2018 G80 for less than a 2019 G70. The 2019 cars are coming but I doubt there will be huge drops in the price from what they gave you already. Once it is gone, it is gone. so don't wait too long.
Most demo's are usually not in great shape though and are horribly abused. The white 3.3T Sport demo unit for sale in Edmonton right now is in worse shape at 10,000km than my car will likely be at 50,000km. There can definitely be some deals, but for the most they either aren't in great shape or I wonder what they have covered up. loli've seen 3.3T Sport GXM demos listed for over $6500 off MSRP. and that's just the starting point and for a '19MY G70 new model.
I think this is a really good point. Especially when comparing two cars of different sizes that have the same engine transmission, etc., the experience between the two can be very different. Both the G70 and the G80 offer a lot and are appealing cars but in different ways. The G80 clearly emphasizes luxury. It's has more room, luxury, and weight. The G70 should be more nimble and more responsive. Each has some of the qualities of the other, of course, but not in equal measure.Most demo's are usually not in great shape though and are horribly abused. The white 3.3T Sport demo unit for sale in Edmonton right now is in worse shape at 10,000km than my car will likely be at 50,000km. There can definitely be some deals, but for the most they either aren't in great shape or I wonder what they have covered up. lol
For the guys discussing G70 vs G80, I think they are totally different vehicles and shouldn't be compared. You should first decide what size/type of vehicle you want (sporty compact with some luxury like the G70, or large luxury car like the G80) and then compare similar vehicles, like G70 vs 3 series, C class, etc or G80 vs 5 series, E class, etc.
I made the mistake once moving from a 3 series to a 5 series thinking it was just a size thing and the extra money wasn't a big deal, but it isn't. As sporty as you may think a 5 series or G80 may be, it is no even close to something in the smaller compact class. But again, I think you decide what class of car you want first. That 5 series was my biggest regret ever. It was definitely a great car, but not the right car for me at all.