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Problems with windshield and wipers

larrycohen28

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My windshield is perpetually dirty, and when I use the windshield wipers and wiper fluid spray to clean it, the wipers just cause streaks and do not get rid of the dirt. I'm going to try giving the windshield a thorough, manual cleaning this morning so we'll see if that helps. Anyone else having this problem?
 
My windshield is perpetually dirty, and when I use the windshield wipers and wiper fluid spray to clean it, the wipers just cause streaks and do not get rid of the dirt. I'm going to try giving the windshield a thorough, manual cleaning this morning so we'll see if that helps. Anyone else having this problem?

Larry, unless you have some road film on the windshield (which can usually be removed with a glass cleaner of many types), make certain that you clean the blades. Sometimes they can get some gunk (scientific, huh?) on them that smears/streaks onto the windshield when you are trying to clean it.

I've used just soapy water (as in dish detergent) with a clean rag to clean the wipers in the past. Anyone out there find anything better?
 
I've used just soapy water (as in dish detergent) with a clean rag to clean the wipers in the past. Anyone out there find anything better?
An old trick: Clean the blades with an alcohol wipe...it will clean all of the junk off of the blades and will extend their life.
 
I wonder if this issue could be causing the suspension problems everyone is having... its all related some how......:D
 
An old trick: Clean the blades with an alcohol wipe...it will clean all of the junk off of the blades and will extend their life.

Ok, here's another stupid question. How do I pull the blades up to clean them? The seem to be mechanically stuck against the windshield and I can only lift them a few inches off the windshield surface.
 
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Ok, here's another stupid question. How do I pull the blades up to clean them? The seem to be mechanically stuck against the windshield and I can only lift them a few inches off the windshield surface.

The only really stupid question is the one that isn't asked, Larry. If you open the hood, you can get at them better. (nice engineering, huh?)

I'm not certain of other ways...unless you start the wipers moving and turn off the ignition.......(haven't tried that yet)....

Have fun ;)
 
The only really stupid question is the one that isn't asked, Larry. If you open the hood, you can get at them better. (nice engineering, huh?)

I'm not certain of other ways...unless you start the wipers moving and turn off the ignition.......(haven't tried that yet)....

Have fun ;)

Actually I figured it out. Funny what happens when you read the owners manual. With the car completely off, if you hold the wiper control arm up, in the "mist" position for about 3 seconds, the wiper blades stand up and stay up.
 
Actually I figured it out. Funny what happens when you read the owners manual. With the car completely off, if you hold the wiper control arm up, in the "mist" position for about 3 seconds, the wiper blades stand up and stay up.

Well, Larry, no matter what....I refuse to read those manuals. :o
 
You might need new wiper blades. I bought my Genesis on Memorial Day and the wiper blade were streaking the windshield on Day 1. When I looked closely at the blade edges they were pretty raunchy (not sure if Hyundai got a bad batch at the factory or if they were damaged in transit). I bought new blades at NAPA and I've had no problems since.
 
after reading the all the comments on this thread i now see that becoming knowledgable about this car isnt important to some folks, if your are having a problem refer to the owners manual its there for a reason, best of luck to you all
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Actually I figured it out. Funny what happens when you read the owners manual. With the car completely off, if you hold the wiper control arm up, in the "mist" position for about 3 seconds, the wiper blades stand up and stay up.

Very true. It was my understanding that the ignition must be off for no more than a minute or so, but it could be longer. The owners manual does not make it very clear, because it talks about turning the ignition KEY off.

1. Shut ignition off.
2. Push Stalk all the way UP.
3. Pull Stalk toward you while stalk is still in the up position.

The blades come up to the service position.

As for cleaning them, I use Rain-X on the blades (or stuff that is just like
rain-x). A lot of people use Rain-X all over their windshield, however I don't like it like that, because after a few uses, I get wiper "chatter". What I do use the Rain-X for is to clean the blades, and to remove the "scum" that forms on the windshield at the end of the wiper up stroke. Cleans that scum right off.
 
TSB 09-BE-010 (attached here, if I did the attachment process right) covers the details on how to get your wiper arms to "stand up". It's posted on the TSB tab at www.hmaservice.com (requires establishing an account).
 

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I've had my Genny since February and the wipers are already junk. Iirc, some wear items are covered for a year. I'll have to verify that.
 
Very true. It was my understanding that the ignition must be off for no more than a minute or so, but it could be longer. The owners manual does not make it very clear, because it talks about turning the ignition KEY off.

1. Shut ignition off.
2. Push Stalk all the way UP.
3. Pull Stalk toward you while stalk is still in the up position.

The blades come up to the service position.

As for cleaning them, I use Rain-X on the blades (or stuff that is just like
rain-x). A lot of people use Rain-X all over their windshield, however I don't like it like that, because after a few uses, I get wiper "chatter". What I do use the Rain-X for is to clean the blades, and to remove the "scum" that forms on the windshield at the end of the wiper up stroke. Cleans that scum right off.

Very cool !
 
TSB 09-BE-010 (attached here, if I did the attachment process right) covers the details on how to get your wiper arms to "stand up". It's posted on the TSB tab at www.hmaservice.com (requires establishing an account).

Thanks very much for linking the pdf.....I've already downloaded it, looked at it, and saved it.

(I wondered what a "wiper stalk" was. Now I know. :D )
 
TSB 09-BE-010 (attached here, if I did the attachment process right) covers the details on how to get your wiper arms to "stand up". It's posted on the TSB tab at www.hmaservice.com (requires establishing an account).

I've found that step 4 is not needed if you are going to start the car to drive off. After changing or cleaning blades, just start the car, and the blades go down to the driving position.
 
after reading the all the comments on this thread i now see that becoming knowledgable about this car isnt important to some folks, if your are having a problem refer to the owners manual its there for a reason, best of luck to you all

That wasn't very nice. By the way, you should check your grammar.
 
Actually MADDMOE hits the nail on the head (regardless of his grammar, spelling, capitalization or punctuation).

While there are plenty of cases where the owner's manual is unclear or silent on a subject, I frequently see posts on this and other forums that could easily be answered by spending 2 minutes in the owner's manual. Unfortunately we live in a society that wants all their questions answered by someone else, and they want their answers now, preferable sent straight to their IPhones and Blackberries.

Unfortunately I am spoiled by a 20-year career in the Marine Corps where most individuals bring solutions to the table. When I retired 5 years ago and got a "real" job I was amazed how lazy people in the civil sector were, especially when you consider what today's technology can do for you with a few clicks of a mouse.

Thumbing through a hard copy of a poorly written and organized manual can be pain in the butt. I downloaded the Genesis Owner’s Manual PDF at www.hmaservice.com, a website which is often mentioned on this forum. Using the search function of Adobe Acrobat Reader I found the procedure change the wipers in about 20 seconds. Using my hard copy version of the owner's manual would not have taken much longer. The table of contents tells me that "Maintenance" can be found in chapter 7 (wiper blade replacement would logically be a maintenance issue, yes?). The first page of chapter 7 tells me that "Wiper Blades" can be found at page 7-25. The actual replacement procedure is on page 7-26, albeit it is poorly written for Genny owners with keyless ignitions.

Five more minutes on the TSB tab of www.hmaservice.com soon revealed TSB #09-BE-010 “WIPER BLADE REPLACEMENT” which significantly clarifies the owner’s manual procedure for keyless ignition vehicles.

Was larrycohen28’s question stupid? No, but he easily could have checked the maintenance section of his owner’s manual first. If he’d then come back with “Does anyone know how to do the wiper procedure on page 7-26 of the owner’s manual for a keyless ignition? I can't figure it out.” I’d be telling MADDMOE to back off too. Instead I say “My hat’s off to you MADDMOE for setting some standards.”

Now if you want a stupid question, which I have actually seen on this forum, how about “What grade of oil should I use?” It’s printed on the oil filler cap for Christ’s sake!!! Why not just ask someone on this forum to come to your house and pour the oil in for you? Then again, we do live in a society where irons come with warnings that say "CAUTION! The iron is hot. Do not iron your clothes while wearing them."

My apologies for the long diatribe.
 
I respectfully disagree, at least partially. While there's always value in RTFM, and while there's definitely change in society toward instant gratification, the reason a community like this works is because people are free to ask stupid questions without people jumping all over them for not RTFM or asking a FAQ. The quickest way to kill a community is to have a few people constantly shoot down, criticize, or belittle people who take the big step from being a lurker (and there are hundreds, if not thousands of people, who visit here without ever registering or posting).

As for the specific example, I believe with the Genesis plus technology option the manuals total more than 500 pages, many of which represent options not present on most vehicles and many of which are filled with safety warnings. Perhaps if you were operating a nuclear power plant, being intimately familiar with every page and warning would be appropriate, but an automobile is basically just that.

I consider myself fairly well-schooled on this car. Yet there are things that I've learned from this site, either by asking or by reading others' questions and answers, that are in the manual, in some Hyundai bulletin, or have been asked before and could have been searched for.

The thing about searching the electronic versions manuals is that they are not readily available to the public, and unless you knew where they are, knew that the answer was in there, and knew how to search using the PDF reader software, it's probably not reasonable to expect that you would either do that or known that you should have done that before posting.

Finally, another part of the community is that folks tend to want to help each other and share information. The more passionate people are about something, the more they want to evangelize it. I think it's a good thing that someone feels comfortable (or lazy, perhaps) asking an RTFM question and someone feels good about replying with the answer.

Even when it is RTFM, there are ways to convey that without being so overt. "Hey, the answer is <this>, which can be found on page <x> in <y>, which is also available <here> if you'd like a searchable copy."

Sorry also about the diatribe. :)
 
dataguy,

Point well argued, and I concur.

I aggree that there are no stupid questions (well, except for the one about grade of oil) and that much can be learned on forums like this by just asking. I certainly do not discourage folks from asking questions. I do hope however that folks will have a thick skin when it is pointed out that 30 seconds in your users manual can answer a LOT of questions.

This forum is a fantastic place to expound upon those questions and to learn all kinds of neat stuff that isn't in the basic owner's manual from folks will a spectrum of experience levels and backgrounds.

I had to chuckle the day I read the following at http://genesisowners.com/subscribe.html - "GenesisOwners.com is here to help improve your Genesis coupe or sedan ownership experience by lowering your maintenance expenses and allowing you to spend less time under the hood of your car and more time with your family and loved-ones." I find that frequently I'm running out to the garage after reading a post and popping the hood to see what they were talking about.
 
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