Shopping for a Gen

[SlowFL2]

Hey everyone, I'm currently shopping around for a gen. Have been with hyundai since I bought my Tiburon in 07 and have never had an issue, so figured why not stick with them especially since these Gen sedans are so nice.

I'm currently undecided on which model I should go with... the 5.0 or the 4.6? is there a huge difference between the two? are there any known issues that I should look for when test driving? any upgrades I want to be sure it has?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Mark_888]

I assume you are looking at used, since you said 4.6 vs 5.0. The 4.6 was not available after 2011 model year. Are you looking at the 3.8L V6 also?

I would avoid the 2012 5.0 V8, since a fair number have experienced high oil consumption. You can read about this problem in other threads. The problem appears to be have been fixed by Hyundai in 2013 models (and maybe for later 2012 models).

 

[SlowFL2]

Yes, looking into used gens. I haven't really looked into the 3.8, the idea of a V8 is just too appealing after so many years with my little 2.0 tiburon. I will def be looking into that oil consumption issue.

 

[DominicJE]

I assume you are looking at used, since you said 4.6 vs 5.0. The 4.6 was not available after 2011 model year. Are you looking at the 3.8L V6 also?

I would avoid the 2012 5.0 V8, since a fair number have experienced high oil consumption. You can read about this problem in other threads. The problem appears to be have been fixed by Hyundai in 2013 models (and maybe for later 2012 models).

You mean after 2012 model year? Since there was 4.6 models available for 2012 model.

 

[Jutdean]

I have the 4.6 and have no complaints. I am not sure about performance differences, but I've read on this forum that you trade off on the smooth transmission of the 4.6 for better fuel economy on the 5.0 that is paired with the 8 gear transmission.

I've also read that the suspension is much smoother on the 2012 and later models.

 

[SlowFL2]

good to know about the transmissions, I also heard the Rspec suspension is pretty rough... I still have to go test drive to see how bad it is.

 

[ShadowZ]

The 5.0 has a softer suspension from what I've experienced and is more cruising comfortable but the 4.6 is more sporty.

 

[Gunkk]

2012 4.6 is the best of the used breed, IMO.

 

[Mark_888]

You mean after 2012 model year? Since there was 4.6 models available for 2012 model.

I forgot about that. There was a 4.6 available early in 2012, but I don't think many were made and probably hard to find.

 

[Mark_888]

good to know about the transmissions, I also heard the Rspec suspension is pretty rough... I still have to go test drive to see how bad it is.

The 2009-2011 V8 uses a ZF 6-speed transmission. This same transmission was used by BMW and others. Starting in 2012 all Genesis sedans use a 8-speed Hyundai transmission.

Starting in 2012 the Genesis sedan suspension was made more "comfortable" on all models. But the 2012+ R-Spec is firmer than the others, and probably similar to all the pre-2012 models. On pre-2012 models, having a high quality tire with a comfortable ride is very important, such as Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus.

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[daveltd]

I just traded my 2011 Genesis 4.6 on a 2013 Genesis R Spec. So far I would say that the R Spec has a better ride than my 2011. I never did like the 2011 ride on a uneven road way. I even changed the stock tires to better tire and only help a little. The 19" wheels and 40 profile tires do well in my opinion. Have had many cars & trucks that I have put larger wheels and low profile tires on so known what to expect from the ride of the vehicle.

Good luck with your quest for a Genesis.

 

[SlowFL2]

All great info, thanks everyone. Will be sure to post up when I do find mine.

 

[landtuna]

good to know about the transmissions, I also heard the Rspec suspension is pretty rough... I still have to go test drive to see how bad it is.

The R-spec is not "rough" but is reportedly stiffer than the regular sedan. My cousin has a 2012 3.8 and I have a 2012 R-spec and neither one of us can tell a significant difference when riding in the other's car. I suspect the major difference is the low-profile summer tires on the R-spec.

 

[brfatal]

The R-spec is not "rough" but is reportedly stiffer than the regular sedan. My cousin has a 2012 3.8 and I have a 2012 R-spec and neither one of us can tell a significant difference when riding in the other's car. I suspect the major difference is the low-profile summer tires on the R-spec.

That's where I disagree. I have a WRX with an aftermarket suspension with twice the spring rates as the stock springs on upgraded dampers. My R-Spec's stock suspension rides rougher than my WRX even when taking into consideration that the WRX has thicker sway bars (which do affect ride) and summer tires with lower profiles compared to the all-season touring tires on the Genesis. I think a big part of this is due to the fact that the Genesis suspension is incredibly slow to react to impacts on the road. I drove a regular 5.0 on my 1st test drive and it seemed to react to poor roads far better (in a smoother manner).

It's worth nothing that +2012 Genesis sedan suspensions are not the same as the earlier model ones, so you really can't compare '09 models to a current model. Over the years the suspension has changed 3 times.

 

[Mark_888]

That's where I disagree. I have a WRX with an aftermarket suspension with twice the spring rates as the stock springs on upgraded dampers. My R-Spec's stock suspension rides rougher than my WRX even when taking into consideration that the WRX has thicker sway bars (which do affect ride) and summer tires with lower profiles compared to the all-season touring tires on the Genesis. I think a big part of this is due to the fact that the Genesis suspension is incredibly slow to react to impacts on the road. I drove a regular 5.0 on my 1st test drive and it seemed to react to poor roads far better (in a smoother manner).

It's worth nothing that +2012 Genesis sedan suspensions are not the same as the earlier model ones, so you really can't compare '09 models to a current model. Over the years the suspension has changed 3 times.

My recollection is that the R-Spec suspension parts (springs, shocks/struts) are different from the 2012+ non-R-Spec, except for rear stabilizer bar. This can be determined by checking an online Hyundai parts website. However, most of the V8 suspension parts have always been a little different from the V8 due to weight differences.

 

[brfatal]

My recollection is that the R-Spec suspension parts (springs, shocks/struts) are different from the 2012+ non-R-Spec, except for rear stabilizer bar. This can be determined by checking an online Hyundai parts website. However, most of the V8 suspension parts have always been a little different from the V8 due to weight differences.

Oh I know. That's why I pointed out the non-R-Spec 5.0 conducted itself better from my experience.

And the 3 changes I referred to were across the standard V6 and V8 models. All R-Specs have the same suspension