So pissed I could spit nails!!!

[WAGunner]

So I've had my 4.6 Genesis all of about 3 weeks now. Last night I come out from a stop at a sporting goods store about 10 miles from my house and a group of 14-16 year old ghetto punks are standing around my car. One of the kids was drunk and decided to take a kick at my car and put two big dents in the quarterpanel. The cops show up and get this kids information. To add insult to injury, the officers told me that this kid is in constant troubles and his parents are both drug dealers that are in and out of courts, rehab etc.
They are both on welfare and I'll never get paid for this little bastards actions.
More than likely nothing will happen to the little ***** because he is a minor.

So now I'm stuck with about $1200 in body repairs & car rental. I'm sick to my stomach about this. The guy who owns the repair shop I'm going to hadn't even SEEN a Genesis before and he said he was sick to HIS stomach to see such a beautiful car that didn't even have its plates yet damaged. He just stood there shaking his head saying "what the hell is wrong with people"

 

[ayasin]

That really really sucks. The worst part is that if you'd given him the beating that he so sorely needs YOU'D be the one in trouble.

 

[hchon]

More than likely nothing will happen to the little ***** because he is a minor.

minor or not, that boy needs to be put away or be given some good spanking.

 

[Poopsicle]

I agree. Physical consequence has worked for years. Now since all of the feminists are paranoid, they think any touching is considered assault. That's why kids now are such punks.

Anyway, sorry to hear about your car. Hope they can fix it ASAP. I'm tired of bad people. I sometimes wish the US law were a little stricter in their consequences department..

 

[ayasin]

I agree. Physical consequence has worked for years. Now since all of the feminists are paranoid, they think any touching is considered assault. That's why kids now are such punks.

Anyway, sorry to hear about your car. Hope they can fix it ASAP. I'm tired of bad people. I sometimes wish the US law were a little stricter in their consequences department..

Kids are punks for one reason: Bad parents. My kids don't behave this way nor do any of their friends. Why? Because they have decent parents who make sure they know right from wrong. Case in point, this boys parents are drug dealers who don't give a crap about their kid.

 

[wallymn]

Discuss it with the owner of the shop.

it happened in their parking lot.

They might be willing to cover some of the cost.

 

[moose66]

Oh my! That just makes me sick reading it! I have no kids. But I am around plenty of them and they just don't act like I used to when I was a kid. Too many vices out there. They don't know how to have good, clean fun anymore.

I agree with wallymn, you may want to contact the shop owner or the owner of the development (if it is a strip mall, etc.). Since you did contact the police and file a report, they may be able to handle this through their insurance. Hopefully the repair and added aggrevation goes smoothly. Good Luck!

 

[Michael_S]

Sorry about your car, WAGunner.

I agree. Physical consequence has worked for years. Now since all of the feminists are paranoid, they think any touching is considered assault. That's why kids now are such punks.

Actually, my only cousins who spent time in prison were the ones who had the living crap beat out of them by their parents.

There are countries in Europe where spanking is flat out illegal, and they have lower crime rates than we do. Beating a disobedient twerp sure feels good, but it doesn't fix anything.

All children are different, and I cannot tell you what would work for your kids or anyone else's. But with my sons, they behave better than I did at age 5 and I haven't had to hit them in over a year. I was spanked a lot as a kid, too. The best dog trainers don't beat the dogs, the best horse trainers don't beat the horses, and it makes sense that ideally you can raise good kids without giving them a red behind a few times a week (which is what happened to me). (Again, everyone's kids are different. Just because I managed to get this far with almost no hitting doesn't mean I can raise some other kids - or even any future kids we have - the same way.)

Beatings aren't the solution. Good parenting is a solution, and that poor screwed up kid won't become a good citizen even if WAGunner sends him to the hospital.

 

[Mark_888]

These kinds of things aren't just done by kids from difficult backgrounds. It happens frequently in Florida and other vacation spots, especially during spring break. I have had rental cars severely damaged by college kids, who somehow think it is OK to kick in the sheet metal.

 

[SCVDon]

IMHO, good kids won't be in Florida on college spring break, drinking and kicking in car panels. It's not how you act when people are looking, it's how you act when there's no one there to see, that determines morals.

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[jwaters943]

I would have followed the kid home and beat the shit out of him. Since you don't have plates they'd never be able to locate you.

THERE IS NO JUSTICE!

 

[gipp]

Sorry to hear about the car! I know how mad you must be.

Now is the time to channel that anger into something good. Most people would just let this drop, especially after the report from the police officer. It is up to you to petition the court for remedey. The remedey could be because he is a known offender to judge him as an adult. Second is to petition the court that he be incarceratred in a juvenile detention center. Third is to petition the court into a work/study program at school where his wages will be garnished until the bill is paid off.

Only by your petitioning of the court will theses things happen. In our society, and unfortunately in the justice system it is the squeeky wheel gets the greese. The only way to stop him and his friends to abandon these behavioral traits is to make them not worth the pain. In most of these cases the plantiff will not show up and express thier pain and suffering so the court will expidite the proceedings to best suit the dockett.

You must appear, insure that the officer appears, insure that a previously assigned juvi counselour appears.
You then need to have a well practiced and detailed accounting of your time, costs, suffering and ongoing fear of furure consequences of this boys actions. Do not overplay any costs. Bring actual copies of estimates and a typed out recording of your time this has taken. Time includes police action, estimates, interent research, contacting court personel, trail assignments, etc. Assign you time as billable hours with a rate in line with your salary/income. You get the picture.

If you show the damage this punk has done to society in a logical fashion the court is required to address it as such. Most people feel this is not worth the time or effort and the kid walks away scott free. I would also suggest contacting local media to attend the proceeding and to make sure that both the judege and prosecutor are aware that the media is at the hearing. Meet prior to all of this and tell the prosector of your plan. He will become your ally and help plan specific strategies. Make this an item of community outrage! You may wish to ask if you can also bring charges against the group that he was hanging with in terms of "inciting criminal behavior" and bring them all into the court room.

Don't let this go--make the punk pay! or... next month when they see the car again they will piss on it and then kick the panels in all over again. Do the right thing. Prosecute to the full measure of the law! You may end up saving someone's life.

 

[ImInPA]

I am sorry to hear about this. Some people just do not respect the property of others. It is always sad to hear such stories. Some years back, on Christmas Eve, I was making that "last-minute" run to Best Buy to get batteries for the kids toys. When I came out, the hood of my car was dented in, as if someone had set a huge box on my hood. I was bummed. My insurance company got the parking lot video tapes from Best Buy and actually was able to see the couple that had done this. They were driving an R Class Mercedes. Needless to say, they were nabbed. It is just hard to figure people out sometimes.

 

[njohnson]

I would have followed the kid home and beat the shit out of him. Since you don't have plates they'd never be able to locate you.

THERE IS NO JUSTICE!

Amen. He will do it again and he knows there is nothing anyone can do. He is taking advantage of it. Next time he may be drunk and hurt somebody.


So these kids kicked the car right in front of you?

 

[Poopsicle]

Sorry about your car, WAGunner.



Actually, my only cousins who spent time in prison were the ones who had the living crap beat out of them by their parents.

There are countries in Europe where spanking is flat out illegal, and they have lower crime rates than we do. Beating a disobedient twerp sure feels good, but it doesn't fix anything.

All children are different, and I cannot tell you what would work for your kids or anyone else's. But with my sons, they behave better than I did at age 5 and I haven't had to hit them in over a year. I was spanked a lot as a kid, too. The best dog trainers don't beat the dogs, the best horse trainers don't beat the horses, and it makes sense that ideally you can raise good kids without giving them a red behind a few times a week (which is what happened to me). (Again, everyone's kids are different. Just because I managed to get this far with almost no hitting doesn't mean I can raise some other kids - or even any future kids we have - the same way.)

Beatings aren't the solution. Good parenting is a solution, and that poor screwed up kid won't become a good citizen even if WAGunner sends him to the hospital.

I'm not talking about "beating the crap out of them" or "abusing" or "beating" them. I'm talking about physical consequence. This is why majority of Northern Asians (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese) are very obedient to their parents and do well in school. My parents followed the Asian-like parenting and were very strict and they used physical punishment on me. I love them to death and I respect them 100%.

You can't mess with physical punishments. It worked for thousands of years to control people. We live in a decade of paranoia were everything is considered offensive. I like people who grew up before the 70's. They're more respectful and nice and majority of them had love for their parents.

Kids now think they're all anarchists.

 

[i8acobra]

I know your pain. My '01 Tiburon got keyed with 5K miles on it and my '06 350Z had been hit 3 times before I had 3K miles on it.

 

[Mark_888]

IMHO, good kids won't be in Florida on college spring break, drinking and kicking in car panels. It's not how you act when people are looking, it's how you act when there's no one there to see, that determines morals.

I didn't exactly say they were "good" but their parents are not drug dealers or any thing like that. Usually the kids who do this on Spring Break do not come from under-privileged backgrounds. They never do it alone, only in "groups" does this kind of behavior happen. It is sort of a macho thing.

When they get older, they will learn more civilized ways to be macho, such as putting 20 inch wheels - 35 aspect ratio tires on the their cars.

 

[WAGunner]

Folks,
Thanks for all the comments, advice and sympathy. My blood pressure is down today a little bit as I found out that the total cost to me has dropped to $250 (deductable) as it is a comprehensive only issue. Unfortunately its not fair that my insurance company (and all policy holders) are in fact picking up the other $1000 in repairs, car rental etc.

I think I am going to spend the time and effort as GIPP (his posting on prior page) suggested and petition the court on this little bastard. I've got a couple of LEO contacts at the Sheriff's Dept along with the Deputy DA in our area and will be eliciting their help in getting this douchebag punk prosecuted as far as it can be taken.
Its truly sad when I think the kid is likely to have no hope and no future because he had parents with no values, respect or dignity. In all likelyhood this event is just the first step in a life of crime and incarceration that you and I will pick up the tab for as taxpayers.

I'll keep you up to speed as time progresses.
Thanks folks again for the support!
Cheers.

 

[Michael_S]

I'm not talking about "beating the crap out of them" or "abusing" or "beating" them. I'm talking about physical consequence. This is why majority of Northern Asians (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese) are very obedient to their parents and do well in school. My parents followed the Asian-like parenting and were very strict and they used physical punishment on me. I love them to death and I respect them 100%.

You can't mess with physical punishments. It worked for thousands of years to control people. We live in a decade of paranoia were everything is considered offensive. I like people who grew up before the 70's. They're more respectful and nice and majority of them had love for their parents.

Kids now think they're all anarchists.

I think the real problem is that too many modern parents replace "discipline through physical punishment" with "no discipline at all" instead of "discipline through other means". And of course, thanks to longer work hours, higher expenses, and the death of most family businesses where parents and children work together, parents get far less time to shape their children and set a good example today than they did 40 years ago.

My kids listen to me because losing access to the television, their radio, video games (which they only get to play about 2 hours per week anyway), their favorite toys, and some favorite foods will happen immediately if they do not. It's still punishment, and with some children - mine among them - it works extremely well.

But I've hijacked the discussion enough. I apologize for the disruption.

 

[monblanc]

So now I'm stuck with about $1200 in body repairs & car rental.

Wouldn't this be covered by your insurance if you have "vandalism" coverage or something like that ?