Sold my 2019 G70 - My thoughts on the ownership of 3 years and 30k miles

[jdiddle]

I drove two G70s over the course of 3 years. The first year I leased a 2019 2.0T Elite RWD for a year for about 12k miles. It was good for what it was, however the TTV6 kept calling my name every night, so I eventually found a used 2019 3.3T Sport RWD with 5k on the odometer. I broke the lease and bought the upgraded model, that's how much I liked it.

I drove the 3.3T for about 20k miles and 2 years. It was a very special car for me and was optioned exactly how I wanted it. Over the course of 20k miles this is how I would sum up my experience:

Powertrain

• Car was plenty fast for every day driving. More than most folks would ever need. However, at highway speeds and past a certain MPH the thrust from the small turbos were much less. The car would continue gaining speed easily, but it certainly felt like a different car from anywhere around 0 to 70. Again that's all the power you need for an every day car. I added an exhaust, intakes, and JB4 and it turned the G70 into the same car past 70 MPH. Even the exhaust alone made a noticeable difference with this car.
• Transmission is herky-jerky in the lower gears sometimes, but for the most part was very cooperative and smooth 90% of the time. And for the young age of the transmission development from Genesis/Hyundai, that's all I could ask from it.

Suspension & Handling

• Like many US spec models, the brake pads would build up deposits and score the rotors quite often. The brakes would shake the car under moderate braking, so I switched the rotors and pads to a set of Cequence rotors and pads and put those Brembo calipers to full use and worked magnificently.
• The front end feel surprised me the most because it actually communicated what the wheels were doing to the steering wheel. Great on center feel as well. Even going from the 2.0T to the 3.3T I thought the nose would be much heavier and promote understeering, thankfully it was uncompromised.
• The adaptive suspension in the Sport model is decent, however I think the most difference is in the steering weight. The non-adaptive suspension from the 2.0T Elite was almost as capable of handling comfort and spirited driving. I think the Mando controller would make more use out of the suspension tuning for the adaptive dampers.
• The back end handling of this car was unpredictable. I found the back end, floaty and disconnected with the front end of the car sometimes. It turns in nicely with the RWD model and handles the lateral grip well once the car is set into the turn. But, the back end could be unpredictable at times and float over small pavement imperfections. At speed that can become dangerous as traction will become an issue with RWD. On the flip side, I do appreciate that the car wants to step out with RWD. It makes you appreciate the power as it can humble you quickly around a turn. To combat the floaty nature of the rear, I would have installed thicker sway bars.
• The tires should be wider for this car, 255 is too narrow for the torque this thing puts down, especially with a JB4 unit. However, they won't hurt the bank as much as wider tires when replacement is due, so it's in line with the value proposition the G70 is supposed to offer over it's competition and it's maintenance items.
• I notice the car likes to pull to the left or to the right sometimes, depends on the day. The tires have been realigned before, however it just seemed to have a loose wander. It wasn't too big of a deal, but kept me on my toes from zoning out and made me use lane keep assist for long drives, which works incredibly well.

Comfort & Interior

• It's a sporty luxury car, it drove well without beating you up like some of the prior gen M models from BMW. However, if you compared the comfort to a prior generation G80 Sport, the difference was quite noticeable. The short wheel base, low center of gravity, and large wheels relative to the size of the car, all worked against it's luxury aspects. Regardless, for the price of the car and for it's handling prowess and speed, I can't complain.
• It's pretty quiet inside the cabin, I noticed a decent amount of tire noise, however the Lexicon sound system made up for that quickly. As well as the exhaust note from the Jun B.L exhaust.
• Fit and finish was great, good use of materials, little piano gloss black. The headliner would rattle a lot, but I got used to it, and it should be serviceable now with an official TSB.

Exterior

• Paint quality was good, but I found it to be a soft paint. I found myself doing a yearly paint correction process and ceramic coating, which is way more than anyone needs to do, but I'm quite picky with keeping the car looking it's best.
• The dark chrome trim around the windows peeled on both sides, but had them replaced under warranty.
• The wheels are some of my favorite, they're Audi-esque, but I'm a sucker for 5 spoke dark rims, it goes well with the muscular nature of the car.

Hyundai Dealership Experience

• My dealership in particular was perfectly adequate. Responsive, straight forward, and cooperative. I made a warranty claim for the peeling dark tinted chrome trim and got it replaced with no hassle.

Overall

The car was great, and there weren't many cars that could replace how special this vehicle was to me and how nice of a package it was for the price. Especially right now with the car market being hyper-inflated. The technology worked perfectly every time, the safety suite is some of the best in the business, and the torque is absolutely addicting. The car that made me move on from it was a Lexus GS F 10th anniversary edition. It's a special car I've wanted for a while, and somehow my local dealer had one at a very fair price. Not a lot were made and my window of time was short and life is short in general, so I moved on from the G70.​

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I had a lot of fun driving some Korean Muscle for a couple of years. And I would consider Genesis in the future for any car shopping I'm doing.​

If anyone is interested I still have the exhaust and intake I took off from the car before trading it in.​

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Thank you for this forum and for this community as I consider it part of the whole that is the Genesis ownership.​

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[007IOU]

Thank you for what I feel is a very honest and fair review.

 

[sethsquire]

Excellent and comprehensive review. Enjoy that GSF, I bet that thing is a beast!

 

[canucklehead604]

• Like many US spec models, the brake pads would build up deposits and score the rotors quite often. The brakes would shake the car under moderate braking, so I switched the rotors and pads to a set of Cequence rotors and pads and put those Brembo calipers to full use and worked magnificently.

^ that's a great ownership summary. fair, informative, and reasonably critical in the right areas. all the best with the next ride.

for other members on here with those dreaded non-Euro braking issues, could you please share some more product info on those Cequence parts? i'm not familiar with their products. part #'s for the pads and rotors?

 

[jdiddle]

Excellent and comprehensive review. Enjoy that GSF, I bet that thing is a beast!

Thank you! The Lexus 5.0 redlining at 7300RPM is intoxicating, it will be something to hold onto for a while.

 

[jdiddle]

^ that's a great ownership summary. fair, informative, and reasonably critical in the right areas. all the best with the next ride.

for other members on here with those dreaded non-Euro braking issues, could you please share some more product info on those Cequence parts? i'm not familiar with their products. part #'s for the pads and rotors?

Reach out to Cquence brakes and they'll help you out. I had to get a private invoice from their team to make sure I get the right spec. Was well worth it

 

[Slip_Angle]

@jdiddle

Nice review for sure and thanks for posting it. Valuable information for everyone. I've had my 3.3T AWD for 3.5 years and it's been wonderful. I spec'd mine with the stock suspension and lowered it on ARK GT-F springs, which much to my surprise seems to have hit the sweet spot for handling. I can really feel the car through the seat, which makes it ideal for knowing what's going to happen next. All that with a great ride height and comfort.

Nice choice with the GS-F! It will always be reliable and fun, which is perfect. I think the G70s are reliable overall but there is no denying a NA motor will have less problems over time then a turbo... especially a twin turbo.

Cheers and enjoy!

 

[jdiddle]

@jdiddle

Nice review for sure and thanks for posting it. Valuable information for everyone. I've had my 3.3T AWD for 3.5 years and it's been wonderful. I spec'd mine with the stock suspension and lowered it on ARK GT-F springs, which much to my surprise seems to have hit the sweet spot for handling. I can really feel the car through the seat, which makes it ideal for knowing what's going to happen next. All that with a great ride height and comfort.

Nice choice with the GS-F! It will always be reliable and fun, which is perfect. I think the G70s are reliable overall but there is no denying a NA motor will have less problems over time then a turbo... especially a twin turbo.

Cheers and enjoy!

The chassis has a lot of overhead for fine tuning which I do like a lot about this car. For as young as it is, the aftermarket is quite healthy IMO.

Thank you! Yeah turbos will always be a replacement down the line, I must say for a first year car and the first 30k miles, the G70 was very reliable. The N/A V8 was on my checklist to own for a while now that I got a full tasting of the turbo treatment. Both very different cars, and charming in their own ways!

 

[Aquineas]

There's not a single point in that review I disagree with.

 

[diablospeed]

Very well written!

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[JSKS76]

I drove two G70s over the course of 3 years. The first year I leased a 2019 2.0T Elite RWD for a year for about 12k miles. It was good for what it was, however the TTV6 kept calling my name every night, so I eventually found a used 2019 3.3T Sport RWD with 5k on the odometer. I broke the lease and bought the upgraded model, that's how much I liked it.

I drove the 3.3T for about 20k miles and 2 years. It was a very special car for me and was optioned exactly how I wanted it. Over the course of 20k miles this is how I would sum up my experience:

Powertrain

• Car was plenty fast for every day driving. More than most folks would ever need. However, at highway speeds and past a certain MPH the thrust from the small turbos were much less. The car would continue gaining speed easily, but it certainly felt like a different car from anywhere around 0 to 70. Again that's all the power you need for an every day car. I added an exhaust, intakes, and JB4 and it turned the G70 into the same car past 70 MPH. Even the exhaust alone made a noticeable difference with this car.
• Transmission is herky-jerky in the lower gears sometimes, but for the most part was very cooperative and smooth 90% of the time. And for the young age of the transmission development from Genesis/Hyundai, that's all I could ask from it.

Suspension & Handling

• Like many US spec models, the brake pads would build up deposits and score the rotors quite often. The brakes would shake the car under moderate braking, so I switched the rotors and pads to a set of Cequence rotors and pads and put those Brembo calipers to full use and worked magnificently.
• The front end feel surprised me the most because it actually communicated what the wheels were doing to the steering wheel. Great on center feel as well. Even going from the 2.0T to the 3.3T I thought the nose would be much heavier and promote understeering, thankfully it was uncompromised.
• The adaptive suspension in the Sport model is decent, however I think the most difference is in the steering weight. The non-adaptive suspension from the 2.0T Elite was almost as capable of handling comfort and spirited driving. I think the Mando controller would make more use out of the suspension tuning for the adaptive dampers.
• The back end handling of this car was unpredictable. I found the back end, floaty and disconnected with the front end of the car sometimes. It turns in nicely with the RWD model and handles the lateral grip well once the car is set into the turn. But, the back end could be unpredictable at times and float over small pavement imperfections. At speed that can become dangerous as traction will become an issue with RWD. On the flip side, I do appreciate that the car wants to step out with RWD. It makes you appreciate the power as it can humble you quickly around a turn. To combat the floaty nature of the rear, I would have installed thicker sway bars.
• The tires should be wider for this car, 255 is too narrow for the torque this thing puts down, especially with a JB4 unit. However, they won't hurt the bank as much as wider tires when replacement is due, so it's in line with the value proposition the G70 is supposed to offer over it's competition and it's maintenance items.
• I notice the car likes to pull to the left or to the right sometimes, depends on the day. The tires have been realigned before, however it just seemed to have a loose wander. It wasn't too big of a deal, but kept me on my toes from zoning out and made me use lane keep assist for long drives, which works incredibly well.

Comfort & Interior

• It's a sporty luxury car, it drove well without beating you up like some of the prior gen M models from BMW. However, if you compared the comfort to a prior generation G80 Sport, the difference was quite noticeable. The short wheel base, low center of gravity, and large wheels relative to the size of the car, all worked against it's luxury aspects. Regardless, for the price of the car and for it's handling prowess and speed, I can't complain.
• It's pretty quiet inside the cabin, I noticed a decent amount of tire noise, however the Lexicon sound system made up for that quickly. As well as the exhaust note from the Jun B.L exhaust.
• Fit and finish was great, good use of materials, little piano gloss black. The headliner would rattle a lot, but I got used to it, and it should be serviceable now with an official TSB.

Exterior

• Paint quality was good, but I found it to be a soft paint. I found myself doing a yearly paint correction process and ceramic coating, which is way more than anyone needs to do, but I'm quite picky with keeping the car looking it's best.
• The dark chrome trim around the windows peeled on both sides, but had them replaced under warranty.
• The wheels are some of my favorite, they're Audi-esque, but I'm a sucker for 5 spoke dark rims, it goes well with the muscular nature of the car.

Hyundai Dealership Experience

• My dealership in particular was perfectly adequate. Responsive, straight forward, and cooperative. I made a warranty claim for the peeling dark tinted chrome trim and got it replaced with no hassle.

Overall

The car was great, and there weren't many cars that could replace how special this vehicle was to me and how nice of a package it was for the price. Especially right now with the car market being hyper-inflated. The technology worked perfectly every time, the safety suite is some of the best in the business, and the torque is absolutely addicting. The car that made me move on from it was a Lexus GS F 10th anniversary edition. It's a special car I've wanted for a while, and somehow my local dealer had one at a very fair price. Not a lot were made and my window of time was short and life is short in general, so I moved on from the G70.​

​

I had a lot of fun driving some Korean Muscle for a couple of years. And I would consider Genesis in the future for any car shopping I'm doing.​

If anyone is interested I still have the exhaust and intake I took off from the car before trading it in.​

​

Thank you for this forum and for this community as I consider it part of the whole that is the Genesis ownership.​

​

​

Great feedback. GS-F and that V8 is noiceeee. If I didn't live in Canada and prefer AWD, I too would be all over a GS-F or an IS500. Congrats on the GS, and enjoy!

 

[dpabon001]

Great review. I've also had issues with my headliner recently. Good to know there is a TSB out there on it.

I might be interested in buying the exhaust from you if its still for sale. Would you be willing to ship to VA?

 

[jdiddle]

Great review. I've also had issues with my headliner recently. Good to know there is a TSB out there on it.

I might be interested in buying the exhaust from you if its still for sale. Would you be willing to ship to VA?

For sure man, I'm in Raleigh, so that shouldn't be too far away either for shipping or if you'd want to drive to cut out the shipping altogether. Just message me and let me know!