Sports Mode

[my2wins]

I just tried using the manual shift for the first time yesterday after having my G for 4 weeks now. Even after reading the manual, I still wasn't clear on what to do, and all I could think of was that I might throw it into the wrong gear by pushing the gear shift into the manual slot.

I grew up driving a manual tranny, so I well versed in using a clutch. Even though I haven't used one in 20 years, I drove a stick all over SF for a decade, up and down hills, so I really know my way around a manual transmission.

But I just didn't grok how the Genesis transmission could be both. And why no clutch. And why just a + and a -. This whole arrangement made no sense.

So I asked the service guy yesterday to show me how it worked, and from what I saw, it seemed easy enough. I tried it out, and sure enough it deceptively simple. I used manual all the way home.

All I can say is...wow. Fun fun fun.

Fun!

That said, I don't think I would have been able to understand the interrelationship between the RPMs and the + or -, had I not had previous experience using a manual tranny. It was still a tad tricky to know when to + and when to -, purely based on muscle memory of going from first to second by pulling the stick forward, vs in this case, always pushing it back to +. I kind of would have preferred if they made the manual mode as an H shape so you could go in progression. Of up, down, back up, then down. But of course that makes no sense with an 8 speed, so I realize they had to do the + and - thing.

Question: has anyone who has NEVER driven a stick, been able to master the sports mode?

Thoughts welcomed.

 

[zielritter]

I just tried using the manual shift for the first time yesterday after having my G for 4 weeks now. Even after reading the manual, I still wasn't clear on what to do, and all I could think of was that I might throw it into the wrong gear by pushing the gear shift into the manual slot.

I grew up driving a manual tranny, so I well versed in using a clutch. Even though I haven't used one in 20 years, I drove a stick all over SF for a decade, up and down hills, so I really know my way around a manual transmission.

But I just didn't grok how the Genesis transmission could be both. And why no clutch. And why just a + and a -. This whole arrangement made no sense.

So I asked the service guy yesterday to show me how it worked, and from what I saw, it seemed easy enough. I tried it out, and sure enough it deceptively simple. I used manual all the way home.

All I can say is...wow. Fun fun fun.

Fun!

That said, I don't think I would have been able to understand the interrelationship between the RPMs and the + or -, had I not had previous experience using a manual tranny. It was still a tad tricky to know when to + and when to -, purely based on muscle memory of going from first to second by pulling the stick forward, vs in this case, always pushing it back to +. I kind of would have preferred if they made the manual mode as an H shape so you could go in progression. Of up, down, back up, then down. But of course that makes no sense with an 8 speed, so I realize they had to do the + and - thing.

Question: has anyone who has NEVER driven a stick, been able to master the sports mode?

Thoughts welcomed.

I'm dating myself as a youngster a bit here, but my very first car was a 2003 (bought in mid 2002) Tiburon 2.7L Delta with a 4 speed Shiftronic AT. It was a very generous gift from dad the year I graduated from High School.

I had never driven a manual, much less any car, before this one and I found the "manual" mode to be completely dummy proof and simple to learn.

Not only will it automatically up shift for you at the red line should you forget, it will also down shift all the way 1 if you start to slow down. There wasn't much to master, imo. I did love the fact that I could hold on to 1st or 2nd until peak torque and then mash the gas to get a nice push into the back of my seat (i did this every day I left school my senior year for the ladies ).

When I upgraded to a 2008 Sonata 2.4L Theta 5spd it was a steep learning curve. In no way did the Tiburon prepare me to drive a manual unless you count the knowledge that "higher RPMs mean more noise" that I derived from the Tib. One thing I noticed rather quickly was that a manual shifts much more quickly than any slush box could possible achieve.

 

[JasTheAce]

Nowadays autos are quicker than manuals, but far less rewarding. I would imagine that most people who have never driven a manual would probably just avoid the manumatic shifting alltogether. I will say one of the cool things is that you can bounce to it to see what gear you are in. For those with the 8 speed, you will be in 7th gear by 40.

Don't worry about being a 'youngster'. I'm 29 myself and don't see how age is any factor at all in a car that's fun to drive.

 

[my2wins]

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Not only will it automatically up shift for you at the red line should you forget, it will also down shift all the way 1 if you start to slow down. There wasn't much to master, imo. I did love the fact that I could hold on to 1st or 2nd until peak torque and then mash the gas to get a nice push into the back of my seat

Oh, ha! See, I didn't realize it would up shift for you, if you forget. Does the G do this too? I assume so, but I didn't catch that part in the tutorial. Wow, that's even easier than I realized. I forgot I shift once and it revved up really high, which kind of freaked me out a little, so I popped it back into automatic mode, and figured that was enough fun for one day.

Glad to know (hopefully) I can't blow up the transmission by using the manual mode.

My first car was a 1981 Datsun 200SX, same color as my Titanium Genesis. It had a 5 speed manual transmission, and the only way I was allowed to drive it was by passing my Dad's driving lessons which took place in the hills of San Francisco. He'd make me stop on a steep hill, and I wasn't allowed to use the parking brake to accelerate up the hill from a stop. Not the easiest thing to learn, but when he was done, I was probably the only kid in my school who was proficient at using a stick shift.

So the sports mode on the G takes me back. Fun times! Can't wait to take it to SF. Thinking I might head there right now just to have a full circle moment.

 

[stuofsci02]

In no way is the "slap stick" any thing like driving a manual.. It is an automatic that will let you select the gear if it agrees with your selection...

Try this to remind yourself how little the "nanny allows"

Drive to 35 mph and try to shift it into 8th.

 

[my2wins]

It is an automatic that will let you select the gear if it agrees with your selection...

Yep, that's exactly what it seemed like when I took it out for a spin to SF tonight. I was a little more experimental and I realized it was shifting for me. Not as much like a manual as I had believed. D'oh.

But, for what it is, I do like the option of choosing a few more RPMs when the situation affords. And better yet, its kind of a cool feeling to get to "down shift" once in a while, even if Nanny Mc G is doing all the real work.

Reminds me a little of being in those gas powered cars at Disneyland as a little kid. I thought I was actually driving the first few times, till I wised up and realized I was only driving where the track was allowing.

Haha, but man it was still fun.

 

[zielritter]

Nowadays autos are quicker than manuals, but far less rewarding. I would imagine that most people who have never driven a manual would probably just avoid the manumatic shifting alltogether. I will say one of the cool things is that you can bounce to it to see what gear you are in. For those with the 8 speed, you will be in 7th gear by 40.

Don't worry about being a 'youngster'. I'm 29 myself and don't see how age is any factor at all in a car that's fun to drive.

The dual/single clutch automated manuals, if that's what you mean by an auto, are faster than a normal driver shifted manual, but there's no way in hell a normal slush box can shift as quickly as a traditional manual. This is especially true for Hyundai.

 

[JasTheAce]

The dual/single clutch automated manuals, if that's what you mean by an auto, are faster than a normal driver shifted manual, but there's no way in hell a normal slush box can shift as quickly as a traditional manual. This is especially true for Hyundai.

You can't compare a transmission tuned for luxury (smooth shifts) to one tuned for performance (quick shifts). DCT are even faster still, but a performance tuned regular auto will beat the manual.

Yes, the 8 speed isn't a fast shifter but I think if you timed the shifts in comparison to a manual it might shock you how quick it really is.

 

[landtuna]

My first car was a 1981 Datsun 200SX, same color as my Titanium Genesis. It had a 5 speed manual transmission, and the only way I was allowed to drive it was by passing my Dad's driving lessons which took place in the hills of San Francisco. He'd make me stop on a steep hill, and I wasn't allowed to use the parking brake to accelerate up the hill from a stop. Not the easiest thing to learn, but when he was done, I was probably the only kid in my school who was proficient at using a stick shift.

I had already mastered a motorcycle when I got my learner's permit but I also learned to drive cars in S.F. with a manual ('56 VW MicroBus and '50 Willys Jeepster). As soon as I told dad I was comfortable with the hills he took me to the bottom of Divisadero and told me to drive up and stop at every intersection. Nothing like 40 roaring HP to get started on that hill!

For people not familiar with that street, it is the steepest in the city and the one made famous in Steve McQueen's "Bullit".

 

[zielritter]

You can't compare a transmission tuned for luxury (smooth shifts) to one tuned for performance (quick shifts). DCT are even faster still, but a performance tuned regular auto will beat the manual.

Yes, the 8 speed isn't a fast shifter but I think if you timed the shifts in comparison to a manual it might shock you how quick it really is.

I guess that's true. I've really only experienced the automatics in Hyundai and older GM vehicles. Even the Coupe's and Veloster's automatics (pre-DCT for Veloster) are dog-sh*t show though. On the other hand, the slush box for the 370z is pretty fast from the videos I've seen.

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[EXBMWGUY]

I had already mastered a motorcycle when I got my learner's permit but I also learned to drive cars in S.F. with a manual ('56 VW MicroBus and '50 Willys Jeepster). As soon as I told dad I was comfortable with the hills he took me to the bottom of Divisadero and told me to drive up and stop at every intersection. Nothing like 40 roaring HP to get started on that hill!

For people not familiar with that street, it is the steepest in the city and the one made famous in Steve McQueen's "Bullit".

Very familiar. Have parallel parked a '64 VW on those streets lots of times in the late 60s and early 70s. 36hp is even more exciting!

 

[deepcolor]

sports mode? that would be nice, but sadly, the genny doesn't have one. if Hyundai wanted a sports mode w/ quicker shifts, it would be there, but because of possible money or warranty issues, Hyundai chooses not to. like many luxury sports sedans (MB BMW etc), it is possible to have luxury smooth shifts and quick performance shifts simultaneously.

 

[Nobody]

I can't stand the auto manual shifting on my 2012 Genesis 3.8. It is terribly slow to respond to multiple shift changes in either direction. I find I often have to wait for the transmission to make its first gear change before pushing the shifter again to make the second gear change.

There really is no point in having an auto-manual in this car if the shift logic is so slow to respond. It would be awesome if they dropped a dual-clutch into the 2015 Genesis. This is more on par with what the European competition is doing, so it certainly would make sense if they want to add a true performance element to the car.

 

[PMCErnie]

Works great for me downshifting to descend hills, or mountains. Otherwise, I don't use it. My boy racer days are over.