The NEW G90 (22/23) - prospective likes/dislikes

[katulu]

Hey all, surely some of you by now have seen videos on the new G90 exterior/interior and driving impressions. What are your thoughts? I have a few of my own, below:

1) Slowly getting used to the appearance. I still think the front and back don't make for a congruent look, personally I'd still change the front grille, hood and lights somewhat. The rear I do like, side profile's ok but the simplicity of the lights/repeaters clashes with the design of the taillights, IMO.

2) The wheels are not that great. It'd be a SHAME if they only keep the new dish wheels on the LWB, because they look awesome and they're the only ones I really like. The 5-spokes are good, but not IMPRESSIVE as this car should be. I don't really like any of the other ones. I hope they at least make a different version of the dishes for the regular wheelbase version.

3) I don't hate the steering wheel but it looks like the cruise control and volume/phone switched sides - noooooo I like my audio in my left steering and cc on the right! Also, some glossy piano black there on the buttons, I don't like it, bet it will be smudge city. They should have kept it all aluminum. Much prefer the current steering wheel.

4) Saw one review stating that even in comfort mode the road is felt, and that it's closer to a BMW than to an S class. Nooooo, I like large comfortable floaty isolation chambers, not large somewhat comfy pretend sport cars. Can we PLEASE stop trying to make cars EVERYTHING? What is the use of sporty pretensions on a vehicle so focused on rear comfort to begin with? Following Lexus right off the cliff...

5) Liking the colors, blue, that green, the tasman blue... need to see that "bariloche brown" in person, but burgundy would work wonders on this car. Interior colors not so much, still hate the white details on black interior, the tan one looks horrid, the others look fine.

Addition:

6) The front cupholder arrangement will be a PITA for big gulpers like me. I can see there could be a problem with getting to the climate controls. The previous gen had a more elegant solution with the cupholders side by side with the main scroll wheel. And NO I am not just going to put my car on auto temp control, I hate that. If it works for you, then good for YOU.

7) I disliked the Park-reverse-drive wheel arrangement from the beginning and still do. Much prefer the previous arrangement in the current G90. The placement also doesn't help, right next to the main scroll wheel. :/

 

[RCH04]

So, does this mean you would or wouldn't get one?

 

[RonL]

So, does this mean you would or wouldn't get one?

Yes.

 

[carljr101]

I’ll get one in a heartbeat if I’d didn’t already have the GV70

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[katulu]

So, does this mean you would or wouldn't get one?

Well, they'll probably be getting to the US just before my lease ends, so I'll have to see about that. When I saw the 2020 G90 I knew that was the car I wanted, just checked it for certain things (comfort, interior size, infotainment usability) and I was sold. Not so much this one. Also, the price advantage to competitors keeps shrinking - need to see what the competition looks like in 2023. I got my 2021 G90 brand new, but I got my old 2010 Lexus LS460 used with 16,400 miles on it - an absolute steal, wouldn't mind buying used again. Also wouldn't mind keeping my 2021 G90. We'll see.

 

[YEH]

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Hey all, surely some of you by now have seen videos on the new G90 exterior/interior and driving impressions. What are your thoughts? I have a few of my own, below:

1) Slowly getting used to the appearance. I still think the front and back don't make for a congruent look, personally I'd still change the front grille, hood and lights somewhat. The rear I do like, side profile's ok but the simplicity of the lights/repeaters clashes with the design of the taillights, IMO.

4) Saw one review stating that even in comfort mode the road is felt, and that it's closer to a BMW than to an S class. Nooooo, I like large comfortable floaty isolation chambers, not large somewhat comfy pretend sport cars. Can we PLEASE stop trying to make cars EVERYTHING? What is the use of sporty pretensions on a vehicle so focused on rear comfort to begin with? Following Lexus right off the cliff...

Like the front fascia - better done than in the G80 and looks more modern and sleek than any of the flagship competition.

The rear is a bit off for me (in this case, like the rear of the G80 better with the quad taillights and the concave shape); looks a bit ungainly with the 2nd light bar across the rear (would look better if they had placed it a little higher).

Another reviewer says the G90 is the best car he's driven when it comes to riding over speed bumps.

Of course, the USDM G90 will have a different suspension tune and don't know if Korean speed bumps are that different from what we have here.

 

[Goaterguy]

that interior is car porn!

 

[Don88]

that interior is car porn!

"Sir, you are a salesman."

from the Clint Eastwood movie Absolute Power

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[katulu]

One more thing that bothers me is the lower front side body "flares" from the lower grill. I don't like it. I honestly think I might wait for a refresh, at this point. The only things I really don't like about my G90 are having to put on the parking brake EVERY time I park, and having to set the drive mode to Custom EVERY time I start it. As far as design goes, I just like the '21 a lot more.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

I don't like how the lower edge of the rear door windows have that downward dip. I think it looked much better without the dip as shown in some early renders.
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/im...al-rivals-in-detailed-comparison-battle_7.jpg

I also don't like the steeply downsloping fastback style trunk. Too "sporty" for my taste. I prefer a more traditional notchback appearance like the G12 BMW 7-series.

I could happily overlook both those things if they were coming out with a powerful and quick EV variant to compete with the Tesla Model S, Lucid Air, Mercedes EQS, and upcoming BMW i7. Last I heard, there will not be an EV variant, which is what I like least about it. It's a deal killer for me.

 

[Backslack]

I also don't like the steeply downsloping fastback style trunk. Too "sporty" for my taste. I prefer a more traditional notchback appearance like the G12 BMW 7-series.

It follows the Rolls Royce greenhouse, nothing sporty about it.

If anything the outgoing model had a more raked back.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

It follows the Rolls Royce greenhouse, nothing sporty about it.

It's not the greenhouse I don't like. I actually do like a steeply raked back window. It's the downsloping trunk. The trunk angle doesn't change much from the back window and from some angles it really looks like a fastback, which is when the back window and trunk share the same angle. Fastback is pretty much customary for sports cars so to me a fastback always looks "sporty". The "fast" in the word fastback itself has sporty connotations.

There is some change of angle so maybe it's not really a fastback, but from some angles it really looks like one.


To me, these cars look a lot better in the rear, a more defined notchback or "three-box design" philosophy.





Part of it is probably how low the trunk ends too. The new G90 ends pretty low, has kind of a low, shrunken butt look like the W221, W222, and W223 S-Class which I don't care for either. Guess I like a bigger butt car.

The Rolls Royce to me is just ugly all over. I don't like its rear, its front, and the short rear door looks weird to me, so yeah, pretty much dislike all of it.

Anyway, I know my taste is old-school since most newer sedans have gone fastback style: Audi A7, Kia Stinger, Tesla Model S, Genesis G80, Lucid Air, Porsche Taycan, etc.

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[Ninja400]

In addition to what he said, in the current G90 the bottom of the window and the chrome strip at the bottom of the car are both horizontal. In the new one they both slope up, creating a more sporty appearance. Look at the rolls for example, that's flat too.

In the new G90 the rear taillight and the more pronounced spoiler also contribute to the effect.