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The Saga Continues

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If it weren't for bad luck.....

As mentioned in my previous topic, my brand new Genesis, with less than 1k miles on the clock, has a relatively obnoxious drone in the left front of the vehicle. After 3 weeks and several trips to the dealer, the problem got better, but was not resolved. The dealer replaced the wheel bearing, lower control arm and then ultimately blamed the tires. I opened a case with Hyundai at this point. They instructed me to go to the tire dealer for tire replacement. I did so and they said the tires were slightly feathered due to alignment (the car was delivered out of alignment) and Good Year (makers of the Dunlop tires) would not cover replacement. I called Hyundai back with this information and they decided to send a factory rep to the dealership.

While I was out of town, I left the vehicle at the dealer - the factory rep drove it. He indicated the noise was acceptable to him. Although the vehicle also pulls to the left (rather fatiguing after a while, actually) - he said the alignment was "within spec" and characteristic of the vehicle (eg. piss-poor engineering?) In other words, the factory rep told me to take a leap.

I then took the vehicle to the Toyota dealer and had them diagnose and test-drive it. The tech noticed the drone right away and thought it was wheel bearing noise, however, the pitch didn't change when turning the wheel and it wasn't speed-sensitive. He took it back, put it on the lift and said the suspension looked ok. He tightened up the control arms to Hyundai's torque specs, we took it for another drive and the noise was noticeably quieter (although still noticeably apparent) - he, along with another tech, concluded that the bushings are defective. This would coincide with what Hyundai engineers originally told the dealer -- they instructed them to replace the lower control arm because they've had other complaints (this didn't fix the problem entirely although it did help somewhat.) Unfortunately, replacing all of the bushings would be around $1,000 - parts and labor.

I could likely have it done and assuming it resolves the issue and fight Hyundai for reimbursement. I'm not sure if it's worth it - I'd still be left with a vehicle that pulls to the left that I'm really not happy with... especially since the manufacturer is intent on not standing behind it. On the other hand, it would be an expensive "lesson learned" to get rid of it now.

What a frustrating experience. I'm well aware there are tens of thousands of happy Hyundai customers out there. For whatever reason, it seems I'm one of the dissatisfied customers that has been singled out. Every manufacturer churns out lemons.... seems I hit one! It's disheartening at best.

Any opinions on the next course of action? Shell out the $$$ and live with the subjectively poorly designed suspension, dump it and cut my losses.....?

Thanks in advance.
 
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My advice is considering that you have a long warranty and to just let it go for now. When the problem gets to the point where something actually breaks etc., then getting the dealership to fix it should be painless.

And you can say "I told you so":D
 
My advice is considering that you have a long warranty and to just let it go for now. When the problem gets to the point where something actually breaks etc., then getting the dealership to fix it should be painless.

And you can say "I told you so":D

Be careful on letting things go until they break. I know some companies will not do anything until it breaks before they fix it (Ford is one of them, I know this from experience), but also, if it has been documented, and you do nothing to maintain the vehicle, I have found that the company will fight you on it because of your lack of maintenance. I would go back to Hyundai and show them what you found through the Toyota techs. Toyota's techs are as good or even better than Hyundai's techs.

Good Luck, keep us posted.
 
I would take the Toyota information back to your Hyundai dealer. At the very least they should inspect to verify.

If they dismiss out of hand. Send the information to Hyundai and open a warranty dispute...
 
Oh man, I am so sorry to hear you are having issues. I have nothing helpful to add, but I do hope that this gets taken care of sooner rather than later as it's pretty clear, at least to me, that something is not right.
 
It seems I've finally reached someone who cares at Hyundai. She's arranged for a different (larger) dealership to take the vehicle next week, replace the bushings, check the pulling to the left issue and resolve all of my concerns. They're providing a loaner of course.

It's difficult, but I'm trying to remain positive and hopeful.
 
That's horrible, I am assuming you bot the car, and it's not a lease?. Unfortunately, luck of the draw means these things happen. Sometimes I think the premium you pay for leasing a car is worth it sometimes since you don't have the liability associated with actually owning the thing. I had a 2007 Expedition that had a recurring suspension problem that no one could figure out. It pissed me off, but I always thought to myself, hey it's a rental car. I was so happy to return that thing.
 
It seems I've finally reached someone who cares at Hyundai. She's arranged for a different (larger) dealership to take the vehicle next week, replace the bushings, check the pulling to the left issue and resolve all of my concerns. They're providing a loaner of course.

It's difficult, but I'm trying to remain positive and hopeful.

Keep us posted, any idea how long the new dealer expects to have your car?

Also how far away is it? Are they transporting the car, or do you have to drive it?
 
TJ - Unfortunately, I bought it. Hopefully, it will get fixed and it won't remain a decision I regret!

Wally - They haven't said. They can keep it as long as they need, so long as it comes back fixed and not dismissed as "NPF" (No problem found) :D It's about 45-mins to an hour each way. Again, I don't mind going out of my way if it resolves the problem. I'm usually a flexible person and easy to get along with (my wife might disagree!) I'm just fed up with this "it's a characteristic of the car" crap. It's only in the left front, Good Year verified it, the Toyota dealer verified... even my 5yr old daughter says "do we have to drive the noisy car?" The letters NPF enrage me. :D
 
My beloved 5yr old daughter convinced me (it's not hard when you're daddy's girl) it would be a good idea to try and get her kitten down from a tree. I lost the battle with the 10ft ladder (and the stupid cat), broke my shoulder, cracked a couple of ribs and going in for a CT scan tomorrow to further assess the "damage." Needless to say, the Genesis and I won't be seeing each other for a while, but one of my employees took it to the dealer for me. I told them to take their time as I can't drive it for a while anyway.

Hopefully it will be right by the time I am. :) I'll post an update when I have one... just wanted to post that it could be a while!
 
Yikes. Daddy's Little Girls have that certain "it" that gets you every time. Good luck with rehabing and getting completely back on your feet! The Genesis will be waiting, and so will your daughter! ;)
 
Just got a call from the dealer. They said the noise will have to get worse before they can narrow it down (though the Toyota dealer was able to do it.... maybe too well, now it's not as noticeable) They did correct the alignment again.

I'm having it picked up tomorrow. Also ordered the Bridgestone Serenity tires... I have a feeling that although the bushings do seem to be sensitive, the noise being transferred is from the subpar tires. I hope the tires make a difference. Will post my results next week when they come in. After having yet another dealer look at it... I think the problem lies with crappy tires, oversensitive bushings and a very picky owner/driver. ;)
 
Just read your post. I think the Dunlop tires are a major contributor to the noise you are experiencing.
 
I think so too. Fingers crossed. I love the car other than the noise which it seems these days, only bothers me. :lol:

OCD is a curse.
 
Just got a call from the dealer. They said the noise will have to get worse before they can narrow it down (though the Toyota dealer was able to do it.... maybe too well, now it's not as noticeable) They did correct the alignment again.

I'm having it picked up tomorrow. Also ordered the Bridgestone Serenity tires... I have a feeling that although the bushings do seem to be sensitive, the noise being transferred is from the subpar tires. I hope the tires make a difference. Will post my results next week when they come in. After having yet another dealer look at it... I think the problem lies with crappy tires, oversensitive bushings and a very picky owner/driver. ;)
New bushings are part of the 2010 suspension changes (they also tuned the shocks and springs).
 
I saw that on the think tank site... I'm going to play it by ear after the tire change. I may end up ordering the parts for a 2010 and doing the swap myself (or if I lose interest, having the Toyota dealer do it since they've been the only ones able to improve my vehicle thus far.)

I'm hoping there will be a TSB that I can point to as a "told you so" type of thing.
 
Hey sorry to hear about your problems.

This does sound like a possible tire issue. I spent 10 years as a GM parts manager at one point in my life and I remember a couple of instances where a noise similar to what you describe was coming from one corner of a brand new car and both times it was a belt that had shifted in the tire during or after production.

Try having the tire balanced. If it doesn't balance, or it takes a signifiganct more weight to balance than the other wheels, then it may just be a shifted belt in the tire at the corner where the sound is coming from. Or try rotating the tires and see if the sound moves to another corner.
 
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