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Thinking about buying G70. Dealerships still suck?

Kozak_23

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I was set on getting G70 BUT after reading the horror stories about dealerships experiences I am thinking about sticking with Mercedes (always had great experience).
Anything changed or Genesis dealers still suck and not giving loaners for warranty work?
Thanks
Ps. I am in NYC area.
 
I was set on getting G70 BUT after reading the horror stories about dealerships experiences I am thinking about sticking with Mercedes (always had great experience).
Anything changed or Genesis dealers still suck and not giving loaners for warranty work?
Thanks
Ps. I am in NYC area.
There are about 400 dealers. Some suck, some are great. Ignore the stories from people that live hundreds, thousands, of miles from you as you will not be visiting those dealers. Visit one or two near you and decide. Read the thread about "would you buy again" but your dealer is not their dealer. My dealer always offered a loaner.
I'm glad you had a good experience with your Mercedes dealer. Mine sucked and would never go there again.
There is also a study that found people with a bad experience will tell at least 10 people, but people with a good experience tell 2 or 3.

Dealers are independent businesses. Every brand has good and bad ones. Only way to tell is to visit and talk to customers from that store.
 
Having done work re MB in that area - yeah, there are good, bad and somewhere in btwn MB dealerships in the NYC metro area.
 
My Genesis dealer (north Dallas area) had given me a loaner both times I've asked for one, no issue. My only gripe is the oil they use, and their car wash had a lot to be desired.
 
I just posted a story of extreme suckage in Atlanta and it was deleted.
 
The dealership I experienced today in North Metro Atlanta was horrible. Apparently, I cannot name them because when I did the thread was deleted.

Here is what I posted earlier:

I have bought many cars from dealers, know the game, but today during an attempt to buy a G70, I had a horrible experience.

I had a quote sheet from a dealer for a G70 and a Genesis "vehicle service contract" to extend manufacturer's warranty to 100k/10y/0 deductible.The quote sheet did not specify warranty details, but they assured me that it was the Genesis warranty I repeatedly requested as I pointed to the Genesis warranty brochures in their showroom. I was clear that third-party warranty was not acceptable, no matter matter what.

It seemed simple, write a check and leave with car and Genesis service contract.

We get handed off to the finance guy, and entered hell. Literally, everything they said was a lie or extremely misleading.

I noticed that the warranty contract said "United States Warranty Corp". When I called them on it, they said that it was "backed by Genesis", this was the what that I requested. After about an hour, where they kept telling me this was a Genesis warranty. They even said something about the Genesis 401k having something to do with the warranty. Really. It made absolutely no sense. I called Genesis Financial, and while it was the claims number, they named the company that they were and said that they handled claims for the official Genesis plan. It was not the company on the contract.

They tried to convince me that I did not understand warranties and third parties. They were the expert.

After finally conceding that it was a third party warranty, and that an actual Genesis warranty existed, the closer claimed that it was so much better in all ways because it covered everything the Genesis warranty covered, plus wear items. They claimed even if the warranty company went belly up that Genesis still covered claims.

They kept digging...

Next they claimed that there was no such thing as extending the manufacturer's warranty, and that all repairs have deductibles, even the factory manufacturer's warranty. No deductible warranties do not exist, according to them.

At this point I stated that If I did not get the the warranty I requested, I was leaving. They left and came back claiming they would sell me the Genesis warranty (which they earlier claimed they did not sell, and did not exist), at the agreed price.

I am just about to get up and leave because there is no way I can trust them, when they drop the final doozie.

I needed to get the Tires warranty because you had to buy tires at the Genesis dealer because the TPMS could not be reset at independent tire dealers, and Genesis dealers were very expensive for tires and TPMS reset. It made no sense at all. I left the closing room, and asked the service department if independent tire stores can reset TPMS, and they said they could.

I left the building, never to return.

They call me, and have the audacity to brag that they had to lower car price to achieve the original out-the-door quote, and that I will never get a deal that good.
 
The dealership I experienced today in North Metro Atlanta was horrible. Apparently, I cannot name them because when I did the thread was deleted.

Here is what I posted earlier:

I have bought many cars from dealers, know the game, but today during an attempt to buy a G70, I had a horrible experience.

I had a quote sheet from a dealer for a G70 and a Genesis "vehicle service contract" to extend manufacturer's warranty to 100k/10y/0 deductible.The quote sheet did not specify warranty details, but they assured me that it was the Genesis warranty I repeatedly requested as I pointed to the Genesis warranty brochures in their showroom. I was clear that third-party warranty was not acceptable, no matter matter what.

It seemed simple, write a check and leave with car and Genesis service contract.

We get handed off to the finance guy, and entered hell. Literally, everything they said was a lie or extremely misleading.

I noticed that the warranty contract said "United States Warranty Corp". When I called them on it, they said that it was "backed by Genesis", this was the what that I requested. After about an hour, where they kept telling me this was a Genesis warranty. They even said something about the Genesis 401k having something to do with the warranty. Really. It made absolutely no sense. I called Genesis Financial, and while it was the claims number, they named the company that they were and said that they handled claims for the official Genesis plan. It was not the company on the contract.

They tried to convince me that I did not understand warranties and third parties. They were the expert.

After finally conceding that it was a third party warranty, and that an actual Genesis warranty existed, the closer claimed that it was so much better in all ways because it covered everything the Genesis warranty covered, plus wear items. They claimed even if the warranty company went belly up that Genesis still covered claims.

They kept digging...

Next they claimed that there was no such thing as extending the manufacturer's warranty, and that all repairs have deductibles, even the factory manufacturer's warranty. No deductible warranties do not exist, according to them.

At this point I stated that If I did not get the the warranty I requested, I was leaving. They left and came back claiming they would sell me the Genesis warranty (which they earlier claimed they did not sell, and did not exist), at the agreed price.

I am just about to get up and leave because there is no way I can trust them, when they drop the final doozie.

I needed to get the Tires warranty because you had to buy tires at the Genesis dealer because the TPMS could not be reset at independent tire dealers, and Genesis dealers were very expensive for tires and TPMS reset. It made no sense at all. I left the closing room, and asked the service department if independent tire stores can reset TPMS, and they said they could.

I left the building, never to return.

They call me, and have the audacity to brag that they had to lower car price to achieve the original out-the-door quote, and that I will never get a deal that good.

Surprising that your original post was deleted. There are numerous posts that mention dealer names. Maybe too specific? Not sure.
 
Surprising that your original post was deleted. There are numerous posts that mention dealer names. Maybe too specific? Not sure.

I don't know why.

The thread just disappeared without notification. I did not name any persons. Maybe it was just a bug.

They will be getting a nice Yelp review.
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Finance office was the worst part of my car buying experience as well with Genesis. However my issue was that he was throwing a fit because I wanted nothing from him in that room. Sucks you had this experience, but maybe you can go to another dealer by getting an OTD quote including specific warranty details. This way you have everything before you walk in the door. I bought a car for my wife a month ago, and due to covid I had every excuse in the world to finalize every aspect of the deal including finance office stuff before I walked in the door. I was out again in about an hour, just signing docs and taking the car for one last spin before purchase
 
The finance guy pushed almost $5K of 3rd party warranties on us and I felt like walking away except we wanted the car.
 
Finance office was the worst part of my car buying experience as well with Genesis. However my issue was that he was throwing a fit because I wanted nothing from him in that room. Sucks you had this experience, but maybe you can go to another dealer by getting an OTD quote including specific warranty details. This way you have everything before you walk in the door. I bought a car for my wife a month ago, and due to covid I had every excuse in the world to finalize every aspect of the deal including finance office stuff before I walked in the door. I was out again in about an hour, just signing docs and taking the car for one last spin before purchase

In this case, I did have everything agreed before walking in the door. I was supposed to take a spin in the actual car (we test drove another identical car a few days earlier), do the inspection, pay the agreed price and leave. I literally had the check written.

I was so confident we were on the same page, I almost sold my current car carmax before finalizing the purchase. I thought it was a done deal. I mean, how could something so simple go wrong?

The "Finance manager" altered the deal at close, and insisted that the third-party warranty was the Genesis warranty, implying my ignorance of how things worked. Take his word for it, he is the expert, he is looking out for me, bla, bla, bla. They told me that my belief that Genesis should be mentioned on the warranty contract, and that what I was not being sold what was described in the Genesis warranty brochure was wrong.

A smart closer would have noticed that I knew the difference between third-party and manufacturer extended service contracts, and perhaps tried to spin it into a mistake (it was not), and move on to selling other useless items. This one kept telling the lie for at least 30 minutes, doubling down with various other lies, only relenting when I threatened to leave.

The icing on the cake is that they had the nerve to email me and accuse me of trying to lower the price at close, and to tell me I was confused, and they are doing me favors finally agreeing to the original deal. The funny part was the email was a reply to another email from me in which it was clearly stated that I wanted nothing other than a Genesis manufacturer Extended warranty.

These guys are not very smart in applying their tactics.
 
I was set on getting G70 BUT after reading the horror stories about dealerships experiences I am thinking about sticking with Mercedes (always had great experience).
Anything changed or Genesis dealers still suck and not giving loaners for warranty work?
Thanks
Ps. I am in NYC area.
I've been pleased with Centereach. Just turned in my 2017 G80 for a 2020 G70 Prestige. white/black. had valet service on G80 and got G70 loaner.
 
The funny part was the email was a reply to another email from me in which it was clearly stated that I wanted nothing other than a Genesis manufacturer Extended warranty.

These guys are not very smart in applying their tactics.
So it sounds like these used car salesmen are agreeing to sell a Genesis warranty at a set price, but then try to switch it out with a cheaper third party warranty, but keeping the higher price of the Genesis warranty. When confronted and caught, they lie to try to defend their actions.

This seems to be a common issue, I've read it on this forum several times. It's another reason to buy new, but I know not everyone cares to eat that depreciation hit.
 
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So it sounds like these used car salesmen are agreeing to sell a Genesis warranty at a set price, but then try to switch it out with a cheaper third party warranty, but keeping the higher price of the Genesis warranty. When confronted and caught, they lie to try to defend their actions.

This seems to be a common issue, I've read it on this forum several times. It's another reason to buy new, but I know not everyone cares to eat that depreciation hit.


I found that after dealing with multiple dealers, that others are doing exactly the same thing. I request Genesis warranty, they quote "Platinum" warranty, which is strange because nowhere is platinum mentioned in the Genesis literature on warranties. When asked, some dealers admitted that it was not a Genesis warranty even though that is what I asked for.

When I ask for a quote with the Genesis warranty,for the same price, they go silent. Only 2 gave me out-the-door quotes with the Genesis warranty, and their prices were about $200 apart.

Only three dealers that actually gave a quote of any sort. All of the others (about 4) keep asking what I want, and ask me to come in, seemingly ignoring my very specific request for a quote. Another strange thing is getting multiple contacts from the same dealer, none of them giving actual quotes, just blather about meeting my needs etc. Very strange. My previous new purchase was Subaru, and It was relatively painless to get quotes. Most dealers actually gave out-the-door quotes immediately, and dropped their price when presented a better offer.

I don't know why Genesis allows dealers to sell third-party warranties. I notice that Infiniti, and Subaru dealers have experienced only sell the factory warranties. I don't know if those manufacturers prohibit third-party, or I was just lucky.

After speaking with the GM of the dealer in question and cooling off, I went ahead and purchased from them. They stuck with the original price, and dropped the games.

Purchasing a G70 was an ordeal, but the car is great.

Time to drive on.
 
For anyone living in the Seattle area, I can wholeheartedly recommend Hyundai/Genesis of Everett dealership. They actually aren't the closest Genesis dealership to me and are about 20 minutes further than the nearest dealership, but they had great online reviews which prompted me to go to them. The sales experience was excellent - no pressure and gave me a great deal on a 2020 G70 Sport (though I did buy around Thanksgiving when there are typically good incentives/deals on most cars). I also just had my initial service with them, and it went without a hitch. They picked up my car and dropped off a G80 Sport, which was a nice change. I've always been curious about the G80 Sport so it was cool to be able to drive the loaner around. After the service was done, they delivered my G70 back to me washed on the outside, and the interior all vacuumed nice and clean. I always thought service at my previous Audi dealership was nice, but the Genesis valet service was a whole new level of convenient.
 
Purchasing a G70 was an ordeal, but the car is great.

Time to drive on.
Congrats on the purchase! So what did you end up with.. color, trim, engine?
 
I was set on getting G70 BUT after reading the horror stories about dealerships experiences I am thinking about sticking with Mercedes (always had great experience).
Anything changed or Genesis dealers still suck and not giving loaners for warranty work?
Thanks
Ps. I am in NYC area.
We are in SW FL and had terrible experiences trying to buy a G80 from three local dealers. The showrooms were loud and the salesmen unaccustomed to dealing with luxury buyers. We stuck with MB and bought an E450.
 
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