Thoughts after 1,000 miles in a Performance AWD

[jaegray09]

While the car is away getting debadged (GV60 from the rear), PPF (Xpel Stealth), and ceramic coated (Ceramic Pro PPF top coat and wheels), thought I would share some thoughts from my first 1,000 miles. Overall impression, it's a fantastic car and both my wife and I are very happy with it.

As for details, in no particular order...

We bought a black on black Performance AWD. We live in the city without a garage so the car sits in the sun and gets hot as hell. First thing I did with the car was get 70% Kavaca nano-ceramic IR tint on every piece of glass. The tint has made the cabin much more comfortable and now we consider opening the moonroof.

The GV60 is not an SUV. I'm coming from a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland - that's an SUV. I'm still getting used to being careful when opening the doors near sidewalks because the car sits quite low. Also, the GV60 turning radius is quite large considering the small size of the car - our Jeep had a tighter radius. Our Jeep would automatically turn on heated/vented seats depending on preset outside temperatures - would be nice if the GV60 did this (maybe it does?). While the GV60 feels wide, we can't fit an adult between two booster seats - we could in the Jeep.

The GV60, like its Ioniq 5 and EV6 siblings, is a charging beast. I've charged seven times, six at 150kW EA stations and once at a 40a Juicebox. I find charging at the EA stations to be very easy (always using the app), and consistently pull 130-170kW from the EA stations I go to. I tend to charge between 20-40% and charge to 80-100% depending on what driving I have planned after the charge. Interestingly, the manual doesn't say to leave the car at 80%, but does say NOT to use DC fast charging often.

I have a hard time keeping the car over 3 mi/kWh. After getting the car, it was difficult not to drive it with a heavy foot. Even after the first few hundred miles, I can only manage about 2.8 - 3.1. This could be due to idling while dropping my kids off at two different day camps - it's been too hot to turn the car off. Hoping to see an improvement once school reopens in September.

Rear visibility out of the GV60 is poor, especially at night if your kids keep the shades up - would be nice if the shades were electric. Related to rear visibility, I've driven in heavy rain and did not have an issue without a rear wiper. Likely because I've come to rely on the tech and cameras for rear and side views. Also, while I like the frameless rearview mirror, my wife finds it difficult to adjust.

The interior is really well done - it's why we bought the GV60 instead of waiting for an Ioniq 5 Limited. The materials look and feel great. It's very quiet. The design is modern, but not sparse. The seats are extremely comfortable and the driver's adjustments seem endless. There are plenty of buttons within reach, no need to get lost in sub menus on the screens. However, after a month in the car, I've come to question the location (need) of the start/stop button - it's the least convenient of all the buttons.

I like the exterior of the car much better in person than I did in pictures. I like the slimmed down Genesis grille, dark headlights (which are great), tiny front quarter panels, and third brake light. I do not like the black plastic A, B, and C pillars, and I don't like that the wing is plastic. The Performance AWD 21" wheels look great but are a pain to clean. The Genesis puddle lights are great, would be nice if the head or tail lights had a lock/unlock or welcome animation of some sort.

Connected services/app could be great, things seem to work intermittently. Example, two nights ago I requested images of the car - request failed. Did the same tonight, and it worked. After getting the images, I tried to locate the car - the location on the map was different (wrong) from the location on the pictures. Our key card does not work. Hyundai/Genesis need to make improving the reliability of these services if they want us to consider paying for them in a few years.

Questions for the group:

If DC fast charging is bad, is charging at 150 any better for the car than charging at 350?
Is remote start a connected service feature that will go away if we don't pay after the free trial?
Can I have the seat massage the driver on demand? Seems it only comes on after an hour in the car...
Can the driver or passenger seat headrests be adjusted front to back?
what accessories you buying? I'm waiting for all weather mats.

Any questions for me?

 

[duz00]

While the car is away getting debadged (GV60 from the rear), PPF (Xpel Stealth), and ceramic coated (Ceramic Pro PPF top coat and wheels), thought I would share some thoughts from my first 1,000 miles. Overall impression, it's a fantastic car and both my wife and I are very happy with it.

As for details, in no particular order...

We bought a black on black Performance AWD. We live in the city without a garage so the car sits in the sun and gets hot as hell. First thing I did with the car was get 70% Kavaca nano-ceramic IR tint on every piece of glass. The tint has made the cabin much more comfortable and now we consider opening the moonroof.

The GV60 is not an SUV. I'm coming from a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland - that's an SUV. I'm still getting used to being careful when opening the doors near sidewalks because the car sits quite low. Also, the GV60 turning radius is quite large considering the small size of the car - our Jeep had a tighter radius. Our Jeep would automatically turn on heated/vented seats depending on preset outside temperatures - would be nice if the GV60 did this (maybe it does?). While the GV60 feels wide, we can't fit an adult between two booster seats - we could in the Jeep.

The GV60, like its Ioniq 5 and EV6 siblings, is a charging beast. I've charged seven times, six at 150kW EA stations and once at a 40a Juicebox. I find charging at the EA stations to be very easy (always using the app), and consistently pull 130-170kW from the EA stations I go to. I tend to charge between 20-40% and charge to 80-100% depending on what driving I have planned after the charge. Interestingly, the manual doesn't say to leave the car at 80%, but does say NOT to use DC fast charging often.

I have a hard time keeping the car over 3 mi/kWh. After getting the car, it was difficult not to drive it with a heavy foot. Even after the first few hundred miles, I can only manage about 2.8 - 3.1. This could be due to idling while dropping my kids off at two different day camps - it's been too hot to turn the car off. Hoping to see an improvement once school reopens in September.

Rear visibility out of the GV60 is poor, especially at night if your kids keep the shades up - would be nice if the shades were electric. Related to rear visibility, I've driven in heavy rain and did not have an issue without a rear wiper. Likely because I've come to rely on the tech and cameras for rear and side views. Also, while I like the frameless rearview mirror, my wife finds it difficult to adjust.

The interior is really well done - it's why we bought the GV60 instead of waiting for an Ioniq 5 Limited. The materials look and feel great. It's very quiet. The design is modern, but not sparse. The seats are extremely comfortable and the driver's adjustments seem endless. There are plenty of buttons within reach, no need to get lost in sub menus on the screens. However, after a month in the car, I've come to question the location (need) of the start/stop button - it's the least convenient of all the buttons.

I like the exterior of the car much better in person than I did in pictures. I like the slimmed down Genesis grille, dark headlights (which are great), tiny front quarter panels, and third brake light. I do not like the black plastic A, B, and C pillars, and I don't like that the wing is plastic. The Performance AWD 21" wheels look great but are a pain to clean. The Genesis puddle lights are great, would be nice if the head or tail lights had a lock/unlock or welcome animation of some sort.

Connected services/app could be great, things seem to work intermittently. Example, two nights ago I requested images of the car - request failed. Did the same tonight, and it worked. After getting the images, I tried to locate the car - the location on the map was different (wrong) from the location on the pictures. Our key card does not work. Hyundai/Genesis need to make improving the reliability of these services if they want us to consider paying for them in a few years.

Questions for the group:

If DC fast charging is bad, is charging at 150 any better for the car than charging at 350?
Is remote start a connected service feature that will go away if we don't pay after the free trial?
Can I have the seat massage the driver on demand? Seems it only comes on after an hour in the car...
Can the driver or passenger seat headrests be adjusted front to back?
what accessories you buying? I'm waiting for all weather mats.

Any questions for me?

I think DC fast charging is equally bad whether charging at 150 or at 350
Is remote start a connected service feature that will go away if we don't pay after the free trial? YES
Can I have the seat massage the driver on demand? Yes you can start it on demand (top row second button)
Can the driver or passenger seat headrests be adjusted front to back? yes push all the way forward to send it all the way back.

 

[Shark]

Which dealer did you purchase from? Any markup from MSRP and/or were you forced to purchase mandatory dealer options?

 

[jaegray09]

Which dealer did you purchase from? Any markup from MSRP and/or were you forced to purchase mandatory dealer options?

Genesis of Denville in NJ.

Purchased at MSRP, no dealer options.

 

[Shark]

Genesis of Denville in NJ.

Purchased at MSRP, no dealer options.

How long did you have to wait for your car?

 

[jaegray09]

How long did you have to wait for your car?

Not long - an earlier reservation holder canceled after a test drive. Dealership said the reservation holder claimed the car was too fast. I have a hard time believing it, but am happy to be in it.

 

[fredf]

I think DC fast charging is equally bad whether charging at 150 or at 350
Is remote start a connected service feature that will go away if we don't pay after the free trial? YES
Can I have the seat massage the driver on demand? Yes you can start it on demand (top row second button)
Can the driver or passenger seat headrests be adjusted front to back? yes push all the way forward to send it all the way back.

‘top row second button’…a physical button? Where?
A screen menu? Which one?

 

[Shark]

Genesis of Denville in NJ.

Purchased at MSRP, no dealer options.

They are telling me I need to pay a $495 doc fee plus a $199 etching fee.

 

[jaegray09]

They are telling me I need to pay a $495 doc fee plus a $199 etching fee.

You can ask for and have the etch fee removed - I did.

The doc fee seems to be charged by all dealers nowadays, ranging from $100-800 in my experience working with Ioniq 5 dealers in NY, NJ, CT, and PA. Considering my luck getting the car as early and quickly as I did, I thought $495 was fair for them handling registration and financing.

 

[jaegray09]

‘top row second button’…a physical button? Where?
A screen menu? Which one?

Maybe (7) Relaxation comfort seat switch?

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[LaylaCat]

While the car is away getting debadged (GV60 from the rear), PPF (Xpel Stealth), and ceramic coated (Ceramic Pro PPF top coat and wheels), thought I would share some thoughts from my first 1,000 miles. Overall impression, it's a fantastic car and both my wife and I are very happy with it.

As for details, in no particular order...

We bought a black on black Performance AWD. We live in the city without a garage so the car sits in the sun and gets hot as hell. First thing I did with the car was get 70% Kavaca nano-ceramic IR tint on every piece of glass. The tint has made the cabin much more comfortable and now we consider opening the moonroof.

The GV60 is not an SUV. I'm coming from a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland - that's an SUV. I'm still getting used to being careful when opening the doors near sidewalks because the car sits quite low. Also, the GV60 turning radius is quite large considering the small size of the car - our Jeep had a tighter radius. Our Jeep would automatically turn on heated/vented seats depending on preset outside temperatures - would be nice if the GV60 did this (maybe it does?). While the GV60 feels wide, we can't fit an adult between two booster seats - we could in the Jeep.

The GV60, like its Ioniq 5 and EV6 siblings, is a charging beast. I've charged seven times, six at 150kW EA stations and once at a 40a Juicebox. I find charging at the EA stations to be very easy (always using the app), and consistently pull 130-170kW from the EA stations I go to. I tend to charge between 20-40% and charge to 80-100% depending on what driving I have planned after the charge. Interestingly, the manual doesn't say to leave the car at 80%, but does say NOT to use DC fast charging often.

I have a hard time keeping the car over 3 mi/kWh. After getting the car, it was difficult not to drive it with a heavy foot. Even after the first few hundred miles, I can only manage about 2.8 - 3.1. This could be due to idling while dropping my kids off at two different day camps - it's been too hot to turn the car off. Hoping to see an improvement once school reopens in September.

Rear visibility out of the GV60 is poor, especially at night if your kids keep the shades up - would be nice if the shades were electric. Related to rear visibility, I've driven in heavy rain and did not have an issue without a rear wiper. Likely because I've come to rely on the tech and cameras for rear and side views. Also, while I like the frameless rearview mirror, my wife finds it difficult to adjust.

The interior is really well done - it's why we bought the GV60 instead of waiting for an Ioniq 5 Limited. The materials look and feel great. It's very quiet. The design is modern, but not sparse. The seats are extremely comfortable and the driver's adjustments seem endless. There are plenty of buttons within reach, no need to get lost in sub menus on the screens. However, after a month in the car, I've come to question the location (need) of the start/stop button - it's the least convenient of all the buttons.

I like the exterior of the car much better in person than I did in pictures. I like the slimmed down Genesis grille, dark headlights (which are great), tiny front quarter panels, and third brake light. I do not like the black plastic A, B, and C pillars, and I don't like that the wing is plastic. The Performance AWD 21" wheels look great but are a pain to clean. The Genesis puddle lights are great, would be nice if the head or tail lights had a lock/unlock or welcome animation of some sort.

Connected services/app could be great, things seem to work intermittently. Example, two nights ago I requested images of the car - request failed. Did the same tonight, and it worked. After getting the images, I tried to locate the car - the location on the map was different (wrong) from the location on the pictures. Our key card does not work. Hyundai/Genesis need to make improving the reliability of these services if they want us to consider paying for them in a few years.

Questions for the group:

If DC fast charging is bad, is charging at 150 any better for the car than charging at 350?
Is remote start a connected service feature that will go away if we don't pay after the free trial?
Can I have the seat massage the driver on demand? Seems it only comes on after an hour in the car...
Can the driver or passenger seat headrests be adjusted front to back?
what accessories you buying? I'm waiting for all weather mats.

Any questions for me?

Great, thoughtful review from someone who's spent a lot of time in the car. Thanks for this!

 

[duz00]

‘top row second button’…a physical button? Where?
A screen menu? Which one?

Driver’s seat buttons

 

[Shark]

While the car is away getting debadged (GV60 from the rear), PPF (Xpel Stealth), and ceramic coated (Ceramic Pro PPF top coat and wheels), thought I would share some thoughts from my first 1,000 miles. Overall impression, it's a fantastic car and both my wife and I are very happy with it.

As for details, in no particular order...

We bought a black on black Performance AWD. We live in the city without a garage so the car sits in the sun and gets hot as hell. First thing I did with the car was get 70% Kavaca nano-ceramic IR tint on every piece of glass. The tint has made the cabin much more comfortable and now we consider opening the moonroof.

The GV60 is not an SUV. I'm coming from a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland - that's an SUV. I'm still getting used to being careful when opening the doors near sidewalks because the car sits quite low. Also, the GV60 turning radius is quite large considering the small size of the car - our Jeep had a tighter radius.

No question the Grand Cherokee is larger. It's considered to be an intermediate size CUV/SUV, whereas the GV60 is in the "compact" range. As for the turning radius, that's one of the downsides of stretching the wheelbase as they did.

 

[fredf]

My thoughts after three weeks:
I have a white Performance with the blue interior
…I think it’s the nicest looking car on the road…seriously
…I haven’t done a three point turn yet but haven’t noticed any issue with the turning circle in every day driving
…I have not yet put it in boost but in sport I can merge with any car on the road today
…the seats are brilliant
…the buttons can be baffling there are so many but the ability to hit a real button and to customize, rather than always go to the screen, is also brilliant
…the trunk floor’s height really cuts it’s cargo capacity
…the suspension is a bit soft (it’s a bit better in Sport but then less range) but not terrible. Maybe a software update can change this
…range so far ( I have spent a lot of time with it on just playing with buttons..so that’s not good) is a bit mediocre

I love the car! A bit more range would be nice but otherwise no complaints.
Hopefully with OTA updates it will only get better, in particular the efficiency (range) and suspension. But honestly, I’m gonna guess that there will be no useful OTA updates as Genesis focuses on other models. One thing I’ve seen so far from Genesis is their lack of attention to ongoing customer satisfaction, although heir initial attention to design details in design is fantastic.

 

[DaleNet]

LOL, I hope you don't do a 3 pint turn. You might not make the turn.

As for the suspension, you set a custom mode and have everything set to comfort except for the suspension. I do not have a GV60, so you would have to check the selections.

 

[fredf]

LOL, I hope you don't do a 3 pint turn. You might not make the turn.

And I want you to know that I corrected that just before I read your comment , lol.
Besides, in Canada it would be a 3 litre turn

 

[GreyGV60]

Which dealer did you purchase from? Any markup from MSRP and/or were you forced to purchase mandatory dealer options?

Just an fyi. In California we are not so lucky. Right now the dealer markup on the Advanced is $6,000 and Performance $7,000.

 

[Lexigen]

You can ask for and have the etch fee removed - I did.

The doc fee seems to be charged by all dealers nowadays, ranging from $100-800 in my experience working with Ioniq 5 dealers in NY, NJ, CT, and PA. Considering my luck getting the car as early and quickly as I did, I thought $495 was fair for them handling registration and financing.

My order is placed with the same dealer. Are you somewhat local to that dealer? Just curious if they have a preference to sell local. The $495 doc fee is not too unreasonable, and they break down the items the fee consists of. I didn't bother to contest the $199 etch fee. Maybe I will when my car comes in. Who was your salesman?

I stopped in this dealer a few times before since January this year when I shopped a PHEV. They didn't at all seem interested in my business and for sure will charge an ADM. The experience was definitely better when I was there for a Genesis.

 

[Shark]

Just curious if they have a preference to sell local.

Would expect most dealers would as they anticipate getting your service business. Even warranty work helps contribute to covering the overhead.

 

[vexige]

I put the deposit on a performance model in Denville few weeks back and yesterday they called me saying that they have grey GV60 performance, someone didn't want the car. My preferred color is white, so after the short deliberation, I declined, even though the car looked very nice in pictures. It sounded like this car was still available by the mid-day on Saturday... BTW, so far I am happy with the sales staff, sales manager, excellent communication, they promptly answered all my questions, returned texxs, etc...

PS: Deal is @MSRP, etching was removed on request.