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Tinting

rbres

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Anyone think the sunshades (side and rear) will block out light and heat in the summer or would you just tint the windows? I'm just leasing so would rather not spend the $250 if I don't have to!
 

Mark_888

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If you are only planning on spending $250 for a tint, don't bother. A high quality tint film (ceramic) that has high heat rejection (and does more than just make the window darker) will cost at least $350 in most areas.
 

Mark_888

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The good film tint make a big difference in heat rejection. I have 3M on all windows expect win shield.
It's not just the brand (3M), but also the specific tint film model. Dyed films do not provide as much heat rejection as metal or ceramic. However, metal tint films may interfere with wireless signals, so ceramic films are best. 3M has a regular ceramic and also a high-end nano-technology they call Crystalline, which provides high heat reject without much darkening (does not provide much privacy). 3M, like most tint film manufacturers, also has dyed films, metalized films, and hybrid models.

There is a big price difference of a dyed film (looks great, but not much heat rejection), and the higher end 3M ceramic or Crystalline film.
 

celltech

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I had my whole car done in a carbon infused, heat rejection tint and it makes all the difference in the world. Even had the sunroof done in a very light tint to keep my head from frying. I will say that I also tried keeping the rear sunshades up as well and had to lower the passenger rear as it was just too dark to see out.
 

balfor

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I tinted and also leased. When you break it down it's only about a $65/yr loss based on what I paid for the tint if I turn the car in at the end of the lease. I've had tint on all my cars since 1986 and cannot stand to drive a car with no tint. I'm in s. Cal and the sun is very intense, for southern states tint is mandatory in my opinion.
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Mark_888

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Here is the bottom line:

A tint is not a tint. There are multiple different tint films, even from the same manufacturer. The various tint films have different characteristics, such as heat rejection ability, resistance to fading, etc, not to mention they come in different VLT % (visible light transmission). VLT limits vary by state, and some states are extremely strict on the tint level of driver and front passenger side windows.

Installation quality is also very important.

The only way to make sure you get what you really want is to do the proper research for your tint film requirements (partly based on where you live), and make sure the tint job is exactly to your specifications (even if included by the dealer). Dealers almost always outsource that work to tint shops and just mark up the price, using the cheapest tint film (unless you specify otherwise, and even then I would not trust them).
 

AustinTX

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Anyone think the sunshades (side and rear) will block out light and heat in the summer or would you just tint the windows? I'm just leasing so would rather not spend the $250 if I don't have to!
I have a friend who does HVAC (Heating, ventilation and air conditioning) testing for a major car manufacturer, both in extreme heat (Death Valley) and cold (northern Canada). From his 20+ years of experience, a big factor in thermal comfort is the color of the interior of the car. Get a light interior to significantly improve thermal comfort - avoid black interiors. Black heats up faster, and "stores" direct sunlight heat better than other colors, and he avoids black interior cars like the plague. They have measured this using dozens of thermo couple sensors in the car, both on the seat as well as "in the air".

Heavy tint has a bad influence on nighttime outward visibility, as it lets less light into the car, so you also see less when looking out of the windows.
 

Mark_888

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I have a friend who does HVAC (Heating, ventilation and air conditioning) testing for a major car manufacturer, both in extreme heat (Death Valley) and cold (northern Canada). From his 20+ years of experience, a big factor in thermal comfort is the color of the interior of the car. Get a light interior to significantly improve thermal comfort - avoid black interiors. Black heats up faster, and "stores" direct sunlight heat better than other colors, and he avoids black interior cars like the plague. They have measured this using dozens of thermo couple sensors in the car, both on the seat as well as "in the air".
I don't agree with that analysis, since it assumes that no after-market tint has been installed. With the right tint film, dark interiors have little difference in interior heat from light interiors because the main areas that have sunlight on them are the dash and the area around the window, which are typically a very dark color even when the interior seats are a light color. The biggest problem is the front windshield, and a windshield reflector can solve that problem. I have a Genesis with black interior with a Formula One Pinnacle 50 tint film in a southern climate, and I have never regretted it.

IMO, exterior color is more important, since one cannot apply a tint film to it. I have a Platinum Sliver Genesis, and my sheet metal is likely to be about 50 F cooler in the sun than a black exterior would be. That not only affects the interior temp, but also the temp inside the engine compartment and trunk.

Heavy tint has a bad influence on nighttime outward visibility, as it lets less light into the car, so you also see less when looking out of the windows.
High tech tint films such as nano-ceramics reflect significant amounts of heat without having to be particularly dark. If you see a really dark tint films, it is usually a dyed or charcoal film, that looks great but has only moderate heat rejection ability, and absorbs a lot of the heat on the film on the inside of the window (which can radiate to the rest of the inside of the car).

We are in the 21st century now, and things have changed from the old days.
 

StarPower

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I'll add another endorsement for nano-ceramic tint. In my experience (I've used Huper Optik nano-ceramic), it'll make a noticeable difference in interior temperature even compared to other types of tint (e.g. dyed or metallic) or factory solar-reflective glass. I recommend you research the different brands and their product lines so that you know what your options are. I also recommend you research the tint shops in your area very thoroughly, as sloppy work can make the highest quality tint look terrible.
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Hoosier Dave

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Genesis G80
Anyone think the sunshades (side and rear) will block out light and heat in the summer or would you just tint the windows? I'm just leasing so would rather not spend the $250 if I don't have to!
I'm in Florida and wanted the G-80 tinted; I am not sure that it is a super efficient tint or not; I negotiated the inclusion of the tinting into my lease. One nice touch here is that they put a put a very dark 6 to 8 inch strip across the top of the windshield which really helps in keep direct rays from coming straight into the front of the car. This wasn't done to my cars back in the Midwest. Most tint shops are tuned into what the law in that individual state allows as far as tinting. Most states allow only minimal tinting on the driver and passenger windows. If I were a cop, I'd want to see who is sitting there and what they're doing!
 

Florida Alan

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I have all my cars tinted down here without fail.
I get the darkest allowed by law: 35% front, 18% rear (if I recall).
I pick up my G80 Sport tomorrow (Polar Ice), and had the dealer include the window tint after price negotiation.

I bought the car, not leasing. This is the 4th car I've bought from same dealer, so they tend to give me a good deal.
 

Radnog

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I had 18% SunTek Carbon tints put on my new G80 Sport. Looks great brand new, hopefully they hold up well.

I don't particularly trust the product and install provided by a dealer (in addition to tint warrantee process if needed) so I always bring my cars to a business that specializes in tints.
 

Mark_888

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I don't particularly trust the product and install provided by a dealer (in addition to tint warrantee process if needed) so I always bring my cars to a business that specializes in tints.
It is extremely rare that a dealer actually does a tint install. They outsource it to tint specialists, choosing a cheap tint film, and mark up the price. It's always s good idea to get the tinting done yourself, so you know exactly what tint film you are getting.
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Nardly

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I had Llumar Formula One ceramic film installed on my 2016 G80. Noticed a difference in interior temperature right away. Plus being ceramic it doesn't interfere with the electronics. Looks really good with the Himalayan Gray. Went with the 35% instead of the 50% on side windows, no problems so far. No night vision problems either.
 

PMCErnie

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1G Genesis Sedan (2009-2014)
I had Llumar Formula One ceramic film installed on my 2016 G80. Noticed a difference in interior temperature right away. Plus being ceramic it doesn't interfere with the electronics. Looks really good with the Himalayan Gray. Went with the 35% instead of the 50% on side windows, no problems so far. No night vision problems either.
Well done, Nards!
 

yankee

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27 is whats legal here in SC but I just had the 20 put on my G80 there not very strict here and there is no vehicle inspections.
 

oldtimer

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Alan;
I'm up here in Montreal and winter in Miami. Just recently got my Polar Ice G80 3.3t and love it (as you will). Can you recommend a reliable and honest tint dealer in Miami area? Thanks
Jack
 
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