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[kev4]

Once again Hyundai has failed in the tire department. I cannot understand why they would go with junk tires when attempting to break into the luxury market. To spend all that expense on developing a beautiful car and then to put crap tires on, not to smart.

My 2009 had Dunlop 5000 which were junk and now on my new 2015, I have tires that flat spot overnight. I shake down the road for the first 2-3 miles in a $55000 car. What are they thinking???Hyundai should recall and replace with a know performer. People are going to feel this as a defect and go purchase one of the competitors.

 

[jimb100]

Once again Hyundai has failed in the tire department. I cannot understand why they would go with junk tires when attempting to break into the luxury market. To spend all that expense on developing a beautiful car and then to put crap tires on, not to smart.

My 2009 had Dunlop 5000 which were junk and now on my new 2015, I have tires that flat spot overnight. I shake down the road for the first 2-3 miles in a $55000 car. What are they thinking???Hyundai should recall and replace with a know performer. People are going to feel this as a defect and go purchase one of the competitors.

I tend to believe Tire Rack's ratings and the Hancook Ventus S1 Noble 2 is definitely not junk, according to these experts.

I'm happy with the 19s on my car but then again, I'm in Florida and you're in BC. I realize YMMV.

 

[powerslide]

I feel for the salesman that has to convince a test driver that the shaking is normal.

 

[Midnightsun]

From what I have read, the Hankooks are rated among the best out there. You may have gotten a defect. As for the Dunflops, we all agree those were a joke.

 

[Ernie3647]

Could it be that I’m one of the few that have not experienced this “flat spotting”. My tire pressure has gone down to 29 Lbs on a couple of 15 degree days and no sign of the flat spotting. I think it unlikely that I have the exception to the norm rather that there is a bad batch of tires out there. These tires perform admirably for me.

 

[rickfen]

Could it be that I’m one of the few that have not experienced this “flat spotting”. My tire pressure has gone down to 29 Lbs on a couple of 15 degree days and no sign of the flat spotting. I think it unlikely that I have the exception to the norm rather that there is a bad batch of tires out there. These tires perform admirably for me.

Have to agree here. I keep my tires around 31 lbs. and I just left the car sitting for 3 days in MOntreal @ minus temperatures and there was no flat spotting when we drove away yesterday. Car rode "like silk"!!

 

[thymer]

The tires are not junk and are quite sticky. These are higher performance summer tires so a little vibration when they are cold is not at all unusual. If you want super quiet/smooth get some touring tires that last 60K miles but wont give you the dry pavement grip that the stockers do.

 

[ksoze]

These are higher performance summer tires so a little vibration when they are cold is not at all unusual.

Actually, they are ultra-high performance All Season tires.

 

[BRJACKET]

I am in much milder climates and have not had trouble with my tires. But in comparison I was originally looking at the Lexus GS 350 and people on the lexus forum didn't like the factory tires there and we're switching to Pilots. (If I am remembering correctly).

 

[thymer]

Actually, they are ultra-high performance All Season tires.

Thanks for the clarification. The result stays the same. Soft sticky tires can produce a little vibration/flat spot until they warm up.

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[kev4]

Quite a spectrum of comments. May I also bring attention to another thread which there is three pages of owners complaining about there tires and how different types of balancing was done with no success, NO GOOD VIBRATIONS HERE is the thread. There is a problem with this type of tire on a "luxury Car". This is not a "Sport Sedan" according to Hyundai, so they should of considered a smoother running tire. Also, to the customers who live in the lower warm states which account for less then 17% of the country, I a happy you are happy, but your population does not represent the majority of the country. Also, based on population Canada has bought more of this product then in the USA in relation to the market base.

Food for thought
Have a great day

 

[dubbyak]

Kev4 - I am sorry that you have experienced problems with flat spotting / tire and wheel balancing with your 2015 Genesis Sedan. I live in Raleigh, NC and I have not experienced the problems you list, but that doesn't make your problems less real any more than your problems make the tires on the 2015 Genesis Sedan "junk." As stated before, the Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2 tires have been extremely well rated on www.tirerack.com, and I have received excellent performance and no balance problems from mine to date. Car and Driver reported 0.87g on the Skid Pad, 70 MPH to 0 Braking of 173 feet on average, and 0 - 60 MPH time of 5.9 Sec for the V6 RWD vehicle. These performance numbers are all aided by the tire selection. The problem you have noticed may well be due to very low temps in your area, but many more Hyundai Genesis Sedans have been sold in the US than in Canada. Actually, the data from www.goodcarbadcar.net shows Canadian sales figures from 2008 through YTD 2014 of only 19,919 vehicles versus 118,117 sold in the US. Since the Canadian sales figures are roughly 11% of US sales figures, it is easy to understand why Hyundai would target tires for the North American market based on the US sales figures.

 

[thane11]

Also, to the customers who live in the lower warm states which account for less then 17% of the country, I a happy you are happy, but your population does not represent the majority of the country. Also, based on population Canada has bought more of this product then in the USA in relation to the market base.

Food for thought
Have a great day

Not sure about the lower warm states bring only 17% of the U.S. Population. California, Texas and Florida combined have over 80 million. Roughly 25% of Americans live in these three states alone.

Add in the other states that touch either Mexico or the Gulf of Mexico and you could get to double the 17% figure.

 

[kev4]

Kev4 - I am sorry that you have experienced problems with flat spotting / tire and wheel balancing with your 2015 Genesis Sedan. I live in Raleigh, NC and I have not experienced the problems you list, but that doesn't make your problems less real any more than your problems make the tires on the 2015 Genesis Sedan "junk." As stated before, the Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2 tires have been extremely well rated on www.tirerack.com, and I have received excellent performance and no balance problems from mine to date. Car and Driver reported 0.87g on the Skid Pad, 70 MPH to 0 Braking of 173 feet on average, and 0 - 60 MPH time of 5.9 Sec for the V6 RWD vehicle. These performance numbers are all aided by the tire selection. The problem you have noticed may well be due to very low temps in your area, but many more Hyundai Genesis Sedans have been sold in the US than in Canada. Actually, the data from www.goodcarbadcar.net shows Canadian sales figures from 2008 through YTD 2014 of only 19,919 vehicles versus 118,117 sold in the US. Since the Canadian sales figures are roughly 11% of US sales figures, it is easy to understand why Hyundai would target tires for the North American market based on the US sales figures.

Just a quick note.. I said in relation to population. The USA has 10 time the population of Canada, if extrapolated that would mean Canadian sales would be 199,190 vs the USA count of 118,117. Hence what I said in the first place was true. Check the 2015 Thread titled "No GooD Vibrations Here" I am not alone..

 

[homeofstone]

To the OP. From your statements it seems that you have never owned a car with todays type of ultra high performance tires which have steel belts plus nylon belts in most brands. Nylon will flat spot. Flat spotting was a big problem in the 50's with the new nylon construction tires which was years before polyester cord was used. If you don't like high performance tires then always check and make sure you get touring tires with no nylon used in the construction. Construction materials used in the tire are stamped on the sidewall of each tire.

 

[dubbyak]

Just a quick note.. I said in relation to population. The USA has 10 time the population of Canada, if extrapolated that would mean Canadian sales would be 199,190 vs the USA count of 118,117. Hence what I said in the first place was true. Check the 2015 Thread titled "No GooD Vibrations Here" I am not alone..

My guess is that Hyundai is more concerned with sales volume versus sales percentage. If Hyundai sold a vehicle to 100% of the people who live in Alaska, that total would be paltry in comparison to selling to just 10% of the people who live in California. The point is that the tires Hyundai chose for the V6 version of the 2015 Genesis Sedan for North America gives the majority of customers a good blend of comfort, handling, and performance. I'm not saying that the Hankooks are the best choice for you and your driving environment, but they are an excellent choice for the majority of purchasers in North America.

 

[kev4]

But But, my point is that Hyundai is classifying this car as a Luxury Car, no longer is it being branded as a Sport Sedan. This is why I feel that a better TYPE of tire which represents the type of car be used. My 2009 Genesis Sedan also had a failure in the choose of tires that Hyundai used. Many threads will solidify this fact. The Dunlop 5000 sports where a massive failure. Please look up the Thread "No Good Vibrations" here and it will indicate that there indeed is a wide spread problem. It is a shame that something as inexpensive as tires reflects the many, many complaints about these particular tires which intern reflect poorly on this magnificent car.

 

[kev4]

Just to add, I do love the car, just wish the tire selection was more fitting to the branding. If you get time check out my cars pictures in the picture forum. It is under kev4. Its been a good discussion and I hope you have a great day.

 

[Analog]

My tires flat spot in as few as two to three hours. OTHER THAN THAT, they are fantastic tires.

I don't get why Hyundai would choose these tires for a luxury car. If you check that Tire Rack link in the "no good vibrations here" thread, flat spotting does not appear to be common even cars with nylon: They only mention the 2004 Acura TL as having the problem and none other (the 2015 Genesis is probably too new to list.) Guess what? Acura fixed the problem - you'll notice the 2005 is not listed. I found at least one guy (link) where Acura actually purchased Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires for him due to this flat spotting.

Unless... maybe it is a really large bad batch of tires. It is really odd that so many people in this thread report no problems yet little to no one showed up in either of the other threads about flatspotting (1, 2.)

note: The only links that I intended to be in the above text are two times for the word link and the 1,2 near the end.

 

[jimb100]

But But, my point is that Hyundai is classifying this car as a Luxury Car, no longer is it being branded as a Sport Sedan. This is why I feel that a better TYPE of tire which represents the type of car be used. My 2009 Genesis Sedan also had a failure in the choose of tires that Hyundai used. Many threads will solidify this fact. The Dunlop 5000 sports where a massive failure. Please look up the Thread "No Good Vibrations" here and it will indicate that there indeed is a wide spread problem. It is a shame that something as inexpensive as tires reflects the many, many complaints about these particular tires which intern reflect poorly on this magnificent car.

Internet forums aren't the best place to determine 'widespread problems'.