tires

[G-706386]

Bought a 2009 4.6 with 56k and Pirelli tires. Car has 75k now and looking to replace the Pirelli's...I wasn't a big fan. Any recommendations?

 

[NSXNEXT]

Location?
Weather conditions?
All you looking at all-season, summer, ??? tires?

 

[Gunkk]

I'm a particular fan of Michelin Pilot Super Sport (summer) tires on my 4.6. Had them on both of my 4.6 cars. I've gotten 30k+ miles in daily driver use out of 3 sets of these tires from new, which is 50% to 100% more than other tires. Value for $$ is there for sure.

The wet grip on these tires is almost as good as the dry. Gotta drive it to believe it. As for seasonal coverage, they are good down to roughly 45F in the wet. Below 45 they will harden up and lose grip, and they are apparently horrid in snow so don't even think about trying them as all seasons.

Get the higher load rated (101Y or 103Y) if available. More sidewall stiffness is good for getting our big girls around corners. I don't mind the more sporty ride, so a stiffer tire doesn't bother me. If you want more cush, go for the 95Y (or 97Y?) load rating.

The Michelin PS4S is the new Super Sport, so consider them equivalent. I'll probably put a set on my Camaro when its OEM goodyears cord out.

 

[AgentSmith007]

I'm a particular fan of Michelin Pilot Super Sport (summer) tires on my 4.6. Had them on both of my 4.6 cars. I've gotten 30k+ miles in daily driver use out of 3 sets of these tires from new, which is 50% to 100% more than other tires. Value for $$ is there for sure.

The wet grip on these tires is almost as good as the dry. Gotta drive it to believe it. As for seasonal coverage, they are good down to roughly 45F in the wet. Below 45 they will harden up and lose grip, and they are apparently horrid in snow so don't even think about trying them as all seasons.

I believe you. I started using Michelin Pilot Super Sport 3 in the summer seasons about five years ago. Used them for three summers. And two years ago bought Michelin PS4S. Unbelievable grip on dry surface and, like you said, almost the same grip when wet.

 

[acelottski]

My 2015 had the Michelin Super Sports and I didn't like them. Noisy and harsh. Once they got 20k on them, they would hydroplane while crossing concrete bridges. I wanted to replace them with the All Season Pirelli P7 Cinturato Plus, but they didn't make them in my rear tire size. I have the 5.0 and the rear wheels are bigger, 275/35/19. I chose the Plus and not the newer Plus II because of the smoother ride.

After reading other recommendations on this forum, I ended up getting the Vredestein Quatrac Pro. I immediately noticed a quieter and smoother ride. Since I do a fair amount of interstate travel, that was important to me. The Michelins may have a higher upper traction limit, but that's not how I drive. I read that the Vredestein's didn't have as good wet traction as some others, but that hasn't been my experience, especially compared to my worn Michelins. It may be my imagination, but the Vredesteins seemed to balance better. I don't have road irregularities intruding in the interior like before. It's probably because they have a more compliant sidewall, but again, for me, that's what I wanted.

I have about 2k on them now, so too early to see how they wear.

 

[mjourney]

Michelin CrossClimate. Quietest tire I’ve ever bought and it is the #1 recommended tire in its class by Consumer Reports.

 

[golfer29]

Michelin CrossClimate. Quietest tire I’ve ever bought and it is the #1 recommended tire in its class by Consumer Reports

Michelin CrossClimate. Quietest tire I’ve ever bought and it is the #1 recommended tire in its class by Consumer Reports.

Ditto! That's what I have on my 2009 Hyundai Genesis V8. Also highly recommended by Tirerack.

 

[AgentSmith007]

Ditto! That's what I have on my 2009 Hyundai Genesis V8. Also highly recommended by Tirerack.

Michelin CrossClimate tires may work in California, but I don't think they will work with Michigan winters.

 

[mjourney]

They are supposed to be a GREAT snow tire as well. Look up the reviews!

 

[AgentSmith007]

They are supposed to be a GREAT snow tire as well. Look up the reviews!

Here is Tire Rack page for CrossClimate2 tires.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=CrossClimate2&partnum=455VR9CC2

Attached is screenshot from that page. Nope, will not work for me with Michigan winters.

PS

Here is more: https://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=125

Quote from above link:

What is the Three-Peak Mountain Snowflake Symbol?​

A three-peak mountain snowflake (3PMSF) symbol branded on a tire's sidewall indicates the tire meets required performance criteria in snow testing to be considered severe snow service-rated. Originally used as a designation for winter tires, the 3PMSF symbol is now featured on some all-season and all-terrain tires with snow performance that meets the testing criteria.

• Testing measures a tire's acceleration traction on medium-packed snow only. Braking and turning on snow, along with ice traction are not components of the test.
• Tires branded with the 3PMSF symbol are expected to provide improved snow traction beyond a standard M+S branded all-season tire.

Note: 3PMSF-branded all-season and all-terrain tires cannot match the traction of dedicated winter / snow tires in all winter weather conditions and should not be considered a replacement for where and when a dedicated winter tire is needed.

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