vatdim
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Hello guys, am I glad to have found you.
First off, I would like to point out that before these past few days I was not at all familiar with Genesis. I live in the EU and we don't normally see Genesis cars around - I don't think they were offered here brand new when they were still under Hyundai, and I can tell you that they definitely aren't being offered as part of the Genesis brand today.
That being said, I'm coming from RWD-based cars (BMW E46 3-series in the past, BMW E34 5-series up to now), and while I'm looking to get into a newer more comfortable and more modern car, I hate the driving dynamics of common sense FWD-based cars (I have driven FWD-based Skoda and Opel which are quite popular around here, and I hated them). It is why I'm being driven nuts by the apparent lack of options for my next car.
Over the past year I have contemplated a new BMW 3 series (I'm not a fan due to its high price, heavy depreciation, high cost of maintenance outside warranty and my overall feeling that these cars do not stand the test of time), a new Mazda Miata MX-5 (not really practical for my purposes, hence not looking at it anymore), and a new Kia Stinger 2.0 4-cylinder (a new 3.3 V6 is above my budget because it costs around USD 25,000 on top of the 2.0 around here). Out of the above I was pretty much set on getting a new Stinger 2.0 or waiting for the facelifted 2.5 which should hopefully arive later this year, if one is to believe the rumors.
However, I'm still looking at used car websites and I was amazed to see a local (reputable) dealer listing a 2015 1-owner Hyundai Genesis 3.8 V6 for sale right next to me. The car has 88 thousand miles on the clock, it is out of factory warranty (normally 5 years in the EU), but has an awesomely rich feature list including front and rear heated seats, front ventilated seats, rear power sun shade, as well as all sorts of safety systems. The car is listed at USD 17,500, which seems to be a steal compared to most other offerings in that price range.
I have read extensively over the past couple of days, and the following (potential) issues have me still wavering to make the jump:
- valve clearance adjustment - as far as I understand, the 3.8 V6 features solid lifters which require an inspection every 60,000 miles and possible adjustment via shims, which requires taking off the front timing cover, as well as all cams. From my understanding, costs for such a service may reach USD 3-4k, and this repair is not suitable for handling by a less experienced DIY.
- carbon deposits - a 5-year old GDI-engined car with close to 90,000 miles probably will have accumulated some carbon deposits. I have experience with using SeaFoam on my previous cars and I'm not afraid of some (relatively) straightforward wrenching, but if this doesn't work, costs up to USD 1.5k may be expected for walnut blasting / proper carbon cleaning by a professional shop.
- fuel consumption - it seems that the AWD car is a bit thirsty by modern standards (16 city, 25 highway) and especially compared to a 2.0 Stinger (22 city, 29 highway). On the uptick, the Stinger is supposed to use premium.
Having listed all that, I have compiled the information together and in terms of total ownership costs, I believe the two options (used Genesis vs new Stinger 2.0) would be pretty evenly matched.
The Genesis has the advantage of being the larger car (I like that, coming from a 5-series), having a much more refined interior, and, in my particular case, being a car I can safely pay cash for (while I would need to finance the Stinger, which is a bit of a gamble in this economic climate).
The Stinger has the advantage of being the lighter and more torquey car (due to the turbo), featuring a better 0-60 time, having a liftback trunk and collapsible rear seats, and sporting a warranty.
I was wondering if I could hear from real owners of the 2015-2016 Hyundai Genesis - how has it been? Would you continue owning and driving the Genesis after the first 5 years / after warranty? What are your main gripes with the car? What are you most happy about? What specifically should I look for when inspecting a 5-year old Genesis? If anyone has tried the Stinger, and could make a comparison between the two cars in terms of driving and overall feel, I would be really happy to read that!
First off, I would like to point out that before these past few days I was not at all familiar with Genesis. I live in the EU and we don't normally see Genesis cars around - I don't think they were offered here brand new when they were still under Hyundai, and I can tell you that they definitely aren't being offered as part of the Genesis brand today.
That being said, I'm coming from RWD-based cars (BMW E46 3-series in the past, BMW E34 5-series up to now), and while I'm looking to get into a newer more comfortable and more modern car, I hate the driving dynamics of common sense FWD-based cars (I have driven FWD-based Skoda and Opel which are quite popular around here, and I hated them). It is why I'm being driven nuts by the apparent lack of options for my next car.
Over the past year I have contemplated a new BMW 3 series (I'm not a fan due to its high price, heavy depreciation, high cost of maintenance outside warranty and my overall feeling that these cars do not stand the test of time), a new Mazda Miata MX-5 (not really practical for my purposes, hence not looking at it anymore), and a new Kia Stinger 2.0 4-cylinder (a new 3.3 V6 is above my budget because it costs around USD 25,000 on top of the 2.0 around here). Out of the above I was pretty much set on getting a new Stinger 2.0 or waiting for the facelifted 2.5 which should hopefully arive later this year, if one is to believe the rumors.
However, I'm still looking at used car websites and I was amazed to see a local (reputable) dealer listing a 2015 1-owner Hyundai Genesis 3.8 V6 for sale right next to me. The car has 88 thousand miles on the clock, it is out of factory warranty (normally 5 years in the EU), but has an awesomely rich feature list including front and rear heated seats, front ventilated seats, rear power sun shade, as well as all sorts of safety systems. The car is listed at USD 17,500, which seems to be a steal compared to most other offerings in that price range.
I have read extensively over the past couple of days, and the following (potential) issues have me still wavering to make the jump:
- valve clearance adjustment - as far as I understand, the 3.8 V6 features solid lifters which require an inspection every 60,000 miles and possible adjustment via shims, which requires taking off the front timing cover, as well as all cams. From my understanding, costs for such a service may reach USD 3-4k, and this repair is not suitable for handling by a less experienced DIY.
- carbon deposits - a 5-year old GDI-engined car with close to 90,000 miles probably will have accumulated some carbon deposits. I have experience with using SeaFoam on my previous cars and I'm not afraid of some (relatively) straightforward wrenching, but if this doesn't work, costs up to USD 1.5k may be expected for walnut blasting / proper carbon cleaning by a professional shop.
- fuel consumption - it seems that the AWD car is a bit thirsty by modern standards (16 city, 25 highway) and especially compared to a 2.0 Stinger (22 city, 29 highway). On the uptick, the Stinger is supposed to use premium.
Having listed all that, I have compiled the information together and in terms of total ownership costs, I believe the two options (used Genesis vs new Stinger 2.0) would be pretty evenly matched.
The Genesis has the advantage of being the larger car (I like that, coming from a 5-series), having a much more refined interior, and, in my particular case, being a car I can safely pay cash for (while I would need to finance the Stinger, which is a bit of a gamble in this economic climate).
The Stinger has the advantage of being the lighter and more torquey car (due to the turbo), featuring a better 0-60 time, having a liftback trunk and collapsible rear seats, and sporting a warranty.
I was wondering if I could hear from real owners of the 2015-2016 Hyundai Genesis - how has it been? Would you continue owning and driving the Genesis after the first 5 years / after warranty? What are your main gripes with the car? What are you most happy about? What specifically should I look for when inspecting a 5-year old Genesis? If anyone has tried the Stinger, and could make a comparison between the two cars in terms of driving and overall feel, I would be really happy to read that!
