Wake Up Hyundai

[MHT]

I have owned my 2010 4.6 for a year and 5 mos, 8,900 miles. I too believe the suspension on rough surfaces could be better. A test drive of the 2012 3.8 showed some improvement but I am waiting to test drive a 2012 4.6 before I render a verdict. My concern is that Hyundai has not adequately addressed the Audio/NAV
check antenna error message (no sound) starts working again after several minutes issue, tilt wheel issue and driver seat wrinkle, all of which are showing up in the 2012s. I also think the map update is to complicated to get. Hyundai needs to wake up and address and correct these issues.
I am thinking that I will wait until after the first of the year and see what or if any updates are changes are made to the 2012 Genesis especially in the areas that I have mentioned.

 

[Vince2]

Not an unreasonable stance.

 

[MrB0462]

Agree but add, as number 1 IMO, the less than desirable rough ride especially for rear passengers. If pavement is smooth it is almost u8nbearable to sit in the back.

A true lux car or near lux car has a competent ride.

 

[hwks1]

Agree but add, as number 1 IMO, the less than desirable rough ride especially for rear passengers. If pavement is smooth it is almost u8nbearable to sit in the back.

A true lux car or near lux car has a competent ride.

No one has offered even a hint of displeasure riding in my '12 4.6

 

[Rambler16]

I recently had two business associates in the back seat for over a 100 mle trip and they both thought it was one of the most comfortable rides they had experienced. They liked it better than our Mercedes E Class

 

[MrB0462]

I recently had two business associates in the back seat for over a 100 mle trip and they both thought it was one of the most comfortable rides they had experienced. They liked it better than our Mercedes E Class

Ride on roads in the northeast that have freeze problems and not smooth surfaces and they would have chosen the E class which I also have.

 

[cschuler]

I live in SW Florida and my Genesis is a great car for the roads here. I did drive it to Pittsburgh, Pa and found it not so great there. Pgh. has terrible roads, compared to Naples. What can I say? Is there an affordable luxury car that stands proud for all road conditions? (I'll guess NO.)

As to the steering wheel and driver seat positioning mechanisms, these are issues that Hyundai is no doubt addressing and, if not, they should.

As to the Nav. system, Hyundai is a bit behind the curve (compared to Lexus, e.g.). I recently had an upgrade from version 1.0 to 3.0 and it took an entire day and yielded little improvement. Just getting the software to the dealer was like a Keystone Kops episode. I have the touchscreen Nav. system and that is a bast...d child, or so it would seem.

Overall, my Genesis is a good value and I am mostly happy with it. Room for improvement ... of course ... there always is!

 

[Car Fan]

I recently had two business associates in the back seat for over a 100 mle trip and they both thought it was one of the most comfortable rides they had experienced. They liked it better than our Mercedes E Class

I've had almost identical comments made to me by guests that I picked up from the airport for a nearly 65 mile ride.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

For most people, the Hyundai Genesis has an amazing ride. The thing is, most people never experience true luxury automobiles. There is room for improvement at Hyundai.

 

[MrB0462]

For most people, the Hyundai Genesis has an amazing ride. The thing is, most people never experience true luxury automobiles. There is room for improvement at Hyundai.

Good comments. Yes most people never own a true lux car, the Genesis is a near luxury car. A true lux car rides well on all types of roads. I have owned 7 series, S class and LS, all give far suprerior rides.

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[dg_moore]

Good comments. Yes most people never own a true lux car, the Genesis is a near luxury car. A true lux car rides well on all types of roads. I have owned 7 series, S class and LS, all give far suprerior rides.

Ride comfort is a contentious issue among Genesis owners. Many (perhaps most?) people never push their cars to a point where handling is critical, and some people like the Buick/Lexus floaty ride, while others like the old Morgan axle-bolted-to-frame ride. You can't please both groups with one vehicle. I wouldn't rate any car's ride as "far superior" to Genesis (or any other car, for that matter) - the fact that you prefer one to the other doesn't make one "far superior" to the other. I have owned MGA, MGB, TR7, 280SL, BMW, and Volvo - all of which were different and all of which I liked ride-wise, and lots of other forgettable cars which I didn't like at all, and now the Genesis, which I like better than any of them. Of course, what you like at 20 might not be the same as what you like at nearly 70, but until senility sets in I still remember those previous rides very well. I don't think it's helpful to anybody to proclaim that X is far superior to Y unlesss you qualify it with "(in my opinion - drive it and judge for yourself)."

 

[Glashub]

And I maintain that anyone can get used to and grow to like almost any ride if they've spent up to 40k and can't take it back.

 

[dg_moore]

And I maintain that anyone can get used to and grow to like almost any ride if they've spent up to 40k and can't take it back.

Well, there is that, too...

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

And I maintain that anyone can get used to and grow to like almost any ride if they've spent up to 40k and can't take it back.

Hee.
Had the Horse in for service and they gave me a 2011 3.8 Tech as a loaner. Couldn't believe how SMALL the car was, how soft the brakes were, and how little power there was.
Now I might have said the same if I'd had my 4.6 Genny in for service, but after 10 months in the Equus it was a very noticeable difference.
But the funny thing? I had no problem with the ride. Nothing shocking, nothing unsettling, nothing nauseating. And this is compared to air suspension.
Go figure.

 

[morpheus2969]

Has anyone looked into an aftermarket upgrade of the suspension that might address issues with the harsh ride?

 

[dg_moore]

Has anyone looked into an aftermarket upgrade of the suspension that might address issues with the harsh ride?

What harsh ride?

 

[MHT]

Please note that when I started this post it was not my intent to reopen the Genesis suspension debate as we all know you either like it or you don't.
My last three cars were: 2005 Lexus LS430, 2007 Lexus LS460 and 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance. I traded the 2007 LS460 for the 2007 Cadillac DTS because of way to many problems for a car costing that kind of money. I traded the 2007 Cadillac DTS for the 2010 Genesis 4.6 because I no longer wanted a big car.
When I test drove the Genesis I knew the ride over rough surfaces was different than what I was a custom to but I was ok with it as the Cadillac DTS Performance did not handle rough surfaces that much better.
IMO there are trade offs in everything and the trade off of the Genesis suspension is IMO superb handling. The Genesis handles well even when going over rough surfaces I have never felt like I did not have control of the car as with other cars that I have owned that had more float, which is IMO another trade off, if the car does not float you may get a little bounce when you hit the rough stuff but it is not all that bad.
The 2012 Genesis 3.8 that I test drove seem to handle rough surfaces better than my 2010 4.6 so I did notice some improvement. I am waiting to test drive a 2012 Genesis 4.6 as I am leaning towards a 2012. My concern has been that Hyundai seems to be a little on the slow side at addressing some of the known issues with the Genesis as some of these issues are showing up in the 2012's
I have looked at some other 2012 cars that have been mentioned on this forum as possibilities that I may trade my 2010 Genesis for but to be truthful I have not found one that I like better than my Genesis. I like the size of the Genesis, material quality, instrumentation lay out, quiet engine, and quiet cabin hardly any wind noise.
I do not consider the Genesis suspension to be harsh as I have seen harsh but I would like maybe a little softer going over the rough stuff and I hope the 2012 4.6 will be the answer. I have owned allot of nice cars and IMO for the money the Genesis is a hard car to beat. It may sound strange but for some of the other cars I test drove they may have handled the rough surfaces better than my Genesis but as far as some of the other things go I would keep my Genesis.

 

[Nobody]

The 2012 Genesis 3.8 that I test drove seem to handle rough surfaces better than my 2010 4.6 so I did notice some improvement. I am waiting to test drive a 2012 Genesis 4.6 as I am leaning towards a 2012.

My understanding of the 2012 Genesis suspension setup is they are identical between the 3.8 premium/tech pkg models and the 4.6. Both are shod with 18" Michelin Energy AS tires (huge upgrade imho) and received identical ride tuning refinements. To quote Hyundai's press release, "Hyundai engineers have made further refinements to the 3.8 and 4.6 model suspension damping calibrations. These precise adjustments serve to minimize the traditional compromises between handling precision and ride comfort. In addition, body roll control for the 3.8 model is enhanced, with the rear stabilizer bar diameter increasing from 17 mm to 18 mm (same size as on the 4.6)."

Tires have a huge impact on ride, so make sure you didn't test drive a 2012 base model 3.8, which still uses the inferior Dunlop SP Sport 5000 tires. Otherwise, the ride should be very similar between the 2012 3.8 and 4.6. The steering feel will probably be different though, since the 4.6 gets the Electro-Hydraulic Power Steering.

 

[MHT]

My understanding of the 2012 Genesis suspension setup is they are identical between the 3.8 premium/tech pkg models and the 4.6. Both are shod with 18" Michelin Energy AS tires (huge upgrade imho) and received identical ride tuning refinements. To quote Hyundai's press release, "Hyundai engineers have made further refinements to the 3.8 and 4.6 model suspension damping calibrations. These precise adjustments serve to minimize the traditional compromises between handling precision and ride comfort. In addition, body roll control for the 3.8 model is enhanced, with the rear stabilizer bar diameter increasing from 17 mm to 18 mm (same size as on the 4.6)."

Tires have a huge impact on ride, so make sure you didn't test drive a 2012 base model 3.8, which still uses the inferior Dunlop SP Sport 5000 tires. Otherwise, the ride should be very similar between the 2012 3.8 and 4.6. The steering feel will probably be different though, since the 4.6 gets the Electro-Hydraulic Power Steering.

Thank you and I believe you are correct. The 2012 3.8 that I test drove did have the Michelins. I also have the same tires on my 2010 4.6.
I plan to take the 2012 4.6 on a longer test drive over some roads that I travel more frequently. I will post back after I have had a chance to test drive the 2012 4.6, just waiting for the dealer to get one in.
I am not in a rush to trade my 2010 4.6 as I can live with the ride but for other features offered on the 2012 4.6 and if the ride is improved I would
consider trading.

 

[Mckenzie500]

No one has offered even a hint of displeasure riding in my '12 4.6

The new 2012 4.6 gets heated rear seats, lane departure warning and performance wise, it doesn’t get any major tweaks.