looking for HID or aftermarket xenon info

[Giant Robo]

I've done a couple of searches and not really turning up any info on what the other members here have done in regards to adding HID to their non-xenon cars.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

Start here? http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=11088

 

[Mark63021]

I would like to change the DRL lamps on my car to something brighter and whiter in color. Has anyone done this? If so, what was used?

 

[OneFunGenesis]

Mark,

Please start here http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=1596

OFG

 

[DominicJE]

Giant Robo,

As OneFunGenesis linked to you,

I'm looking to sell mine - http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=11088

Brand new in the box and never used from KAI (Korean Auto Imports) fully compatible with the Genesis sedan. I've paid $269.00 but am willing to to sell them for $190.00.

PM me if you're interested.

 

[Aquineas]

Mark be aware that the DRL double as the the high-beams. I ordered the [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002UXBELY"]GE H7-55NHP/BP2 Nighthaw Platinum[/ame] bulbs (and despite what Amazon says, they do fit). Also despite what the reviews say, mine haven't had a longevity problem; I've had them on since September of last year with extensive use as High Beam lights as well (car has more than 11K miles on it).

They definitely made a difference in high beam, and are a little brighter as DRLs, but if I were to hazard a guess, I suspect you're looking to change your DRLs to the same color of the light bar, and these definitely won't do that.

 

[Mark63021]

Thanks Aquineas, that's helpful information; and your guess is correct. However I don't really expect to have the brilliant white of those newer LED light bars we see these days, though I'd like to. But I would like something a bit brighter for a DRL (more like LED bars), and my opinion is that as DRLs, the light produced by our stock bulbs look too yellowish, non-tech, and ordinary for such a fine car.

 

[Giant Robo]

Giant Robo,

As OneFunGenesis linked to you,

I'm looking to sell mine - http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=11088

Brand new in the box and never used from KAI (Korean Auto Imports) fully compatible with the Genesis sedan. I've paid $269.00 but am willing to to sell them for $190.00.

PM me if you're interested.

DominicJE

PM sent

 

[krazyfiend]

Thanks Aquineas, that's helpful information; and your guess is correct. However I don't really expect to have the brilliant white of those newer LED light bars we see these days, though I'd like to. But I would like something a bit brighter for a DRL (more like LED bars), and my opinion is that as DRLs, the light produced by our stock bulbs look too yellowish, non-tech, and ordinary for such a fine car.

Agreed 100%.

Tempting option to attempt...

http://store.ijdmtoy.com/High-Power-LED-Headlights-Fog-Lights-Kit-p/15w-led-headlights.htm

...but 1200 lumen for highs when needed on country roads, etc. is not going to cut it. And I'm not sure how they would react when the DRL low wattage is activated and fed to them during the day, they might not turn on and produce the pure white look we are in search of.

Side note: I wonder how big of a cooling fan this LED tech requires (note the article is nearly 4 yrs old and not aimed towards automotive uses.)
http://ledsreview.com/news/224/

It's a shame there still isn't a fuse to simply pull and maintain highs and remove DRL functionality as their was in the past for Gennys.

 

[brfatal]

OP, I recommend ignoring all of the advice previously given in this thread. HID kits (both the set Dominic is selling and on the vendor sites) are both illegal and mildly dangerous. There are only 2 ways to run HIDs properly: Either by buying factory HID lights (ie Tech package or V8 headlights) or retrofitting them with proper HID optics (which requires a little but of fabrication on your end, see the Complete Retrofit Kits: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=64).

As your headlights are not designed for HID use, the bulb/light source will sit in a different location within the housing than a halogen bulb of the same fitment. This will alter your low beam pattern and increase glare as well as create hot and cold spots in the beam. It's a similar effect as moving a mirror in a telescope.

In addition, lower wattage from DRLs is a quick way to kill a set of HIDs. Nor are HIDs compatible for high beam usage as flashing them on and off without allowing them to reach operating temperature will wear out the bulbs in a hurry.

HIDs in foglights is not only a total hazard on the road, but also makes them completely useless for their intended purpose. There is a reason that no reputable company on the planet makes or markets HID foglights.

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[OneFunGenesis]

^ Most of this is right.

In a halogen projector, however, I am less worried about glare from the HID and that is basically what causes it to be illegal.

Def would never put HID in high beam either IMHO

 

[krazyfiend]

There are only 2 ways to run HIDs properly: Either by buying factory HID lights (ie Tech package or V8 headlights) or retrofitting them with proper HID optics (which requires a little but of fabrication on your end, see the Complete Retrofit Kits: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=64).
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You should also state that retrofitting, even if providing proper optics, cut off line and aligned to what would be considered factory/inspection spec's (like they do in England for the MOT)-- this particular option you stated as one way to properly run HIDs is illegal by the letter of the law. So if we're following your line of reasoning to ignore any advice prior in this thread...you should be up front about that little tidbit as well. On that note, TRS is a great outfit and their are many sources for proper retrofits out there, you can pay quite a bit more money going that route of sending headlamps off instead of doing it yourself (unless you go into a deep hole of trial/error/breaking headlamp pieces or mishaps when baking).

If it isn't DOT approved ie factory oem, then it's illegal in the US.

Lots of people in the Benz communities switch over to Hella or Bosch 'euro' headlamps because they were made of glass and lead to a much cleaner of a look for various 80's and 90's MB models. Compared to the abysmal plastic surrounds and yellowing with age headlamps that the DOT forced on MB to allow importation and it's ridiculous how much the 'euro' look cleans up the front of say a 500e500 w124. However, it's illegal to run the factory spec'd 'euro' lamps, even with superior lighting, and following much more strict TUV guidelines.

If you wanted to nitpick some more, DominicJE's Prada headlamps, they fall in the same boat as I'm pretty sure that Hyundai has never sought those for DOT approval because they were never intended for the US audience.

What is severely hazardous\dangerous are halogen reflectors with PnP HID kits installed, especially in SUV's and Trucks that sit higher. I can ignore glare off of easy to spot PnP HID kits (anything higher than 5k) from cars, it's trucks and suv's that truly do blind myself and I can imagine everyone else that's not riding up as high as them. It's like that person riding behind you on the highway that is ignorant of their brights being engaged and have no inclination to ever turn them off as it's painful for you to even use your rear view mirror.

 

[kman]

Here is a link to a few pointers if you plan to install them, as well as difficulties I had with rebased HID bulbs:

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=3762&page=3

I am extremely happy with how wide and bright the beam from the low-beam headlights is after doing this upgrade, but there is one minor annoyance. Over large bumps, I do see very slight bulb vibration when driving at night. This only happens over big cracks in the road and I think it is probably due to the fact that all aftermarket HID bulbs are rebased, and the places that do that probably don't have very tight tolerances on the design.

 

[Aquineas]

OP, I recommend ignoring all of the advice previously given in this thread. HID kits (both the set Dominic is selling and on the vendor sites)

My post said nothing whatsoever about HIDs whatsoever.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

My post said nothing whatsoever about HIDs whatsoever.

Same here. But I'm always up for a good battle :boxme:

 

[Giant Robo]

Thank you all for the info and the advice as to what is legal and not. Yes I'm new here to this forum and to my Genesis, but rest assured this is not my first rodeo. I wanted to see what others here have done, what options I have, again thank you all for the info.

 

[Giant Robo]

DominicJE

What was involved in getting your Prada lights to work/wired? Did you have OEM Xenon prior to the Prada Lights, if not what ballasts are you using (OEM, NON-OEM). If you could go into detail and what ever info you can share would be great.

 

[DominicJE]

Giant Robo,

They were plug and play, I had my dealer install them for me.
I have the premium package, so prior to getting the Prada lights I did not have HID's.

I'm not that good with knowledge on lighting except the basics.

I did purchase the HID kit which I'm selling and was planning on installing it but instead purchased the Prada Lights which cost me around $1500 after being shipped.

 

[marty5marty]

OP, I recommend ignoring all of the advice previously given in this thread. HID kits (both the set Dominic is selling and on the vendor sites) are both illegal and mildly dangerous.

Anything is illegal including tinting your front windows if you want to put it that way....some states can even give you ticket if you change your rims and tires bigger than the OEM due to safety issues...etc. if you want to stay legal 100% then you can't really put any aftermarket mod at all.

Anyways back to the topic, I put HID's on mine. I got it from diodedynamics 6K and looks good. No problems with the Law...no blinding the opposite traffic.

 

[Giant Robo]

Giant Robo,

They were plug and play, I had my dealer install them for me.
I have the premium package, so prior to getting the Prada lights I did not have HID's.

I'm not that good with knowledge on lighting except the basics.

I did purchase the HID kit which I'm selling and was planning on installing it but instead purchased the Prada Lights which cost me around $1500 after being shipped.

DominicJE

Let me ask you, the Prada Lights came with OEM Ballasts? if so what type of Xenon bulb do they use, from the pictures it looks like a quad light set up so only one bulb is being used or is it multiple bulbs.

If you could provide as much detail as possible, do you have any other pictures out side of what you have posted here on the forum, I would like to see pictures of how they are mounted, and also the wiring.