What would be the most expensive to fix?

[TXmat]

I have a 2009 Genesis V6 with all the options available at that time including the navigation system. I now have 64,000 miles on it. Best I can figure from the blue books it has depreciated somewhere between 60% - 64% over these 5 years. I now trying to determine should I sell it or keep it. I have only had two significant problems. First, I had the selection knob for the radio & nav go bad and it was replaced. Second, the car quit on me on the highway and it had to be towed to the nearest Hyundai dealer (which Hyundai paid for) and one of the onboard computers had to be replaced. Other than these two waranty repairs only routine and recommended service has been necessary.

In making my decision I am interested in what major expenses that are not covered by warranty I could incur. For example if the NAV system dies what would it cost to fix? Are there other major non warranty expenses I should anticipate? Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[427435]

If my nav system died and it was out or warranty, I wouldn't fix it. Just get a dash mounted one.

I actually like my 2008 dash mounted unit better than the OEM one in the Genesis. It's obsolete for a lot of POI's but the unit is much more user friendly and it maps are still good enough. Good new ones with current maps and POI's can be bought a whole cheaper than replacing the OEM GPS system.

 

[TXmat]

If my nav system died and it was out or warranty, I wouldn't fix it. Just get a dash mounted one.

I actually like my 2008 dash mounted unit better than the OEM one in the Genesis. It's obsolete for a lot of POI's but the unit is much more user friendly and it maps are still good enough. Good new ones with current maps and POI's can be bought a whole cheaper than replacing the OEM GPS system.

If all I lost was the navigation I would consider doing the same. I doubt it would effect the resale value sufficiently enough to warrant the expense, however would the radio, climate control, backup camera also be lost? If so, what kind of expense is it to replace the computer or video screen? Are there other high dollar non warranty items that might go out? In my mind a $400 repair is one thing and a $4,000 repair is something I would want to avoid.

 

[Jimmmmbo!]

If you ran your Genesis into a tree you might want to think about replacing it. That would be expensive!

It's funny. I asked a similar question a little while ago as my 3-year lease on my base Genesis is up in July and I'm debating on whether to keep it or not. http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12295

I think my decision is a little easier since I don't have the extra technology and nav packages. My take is that the car is relatively reliable (excluding the technology stuff). I have more trouble with the cost and availability of spare parts when a problem happens more than IF an expensive problem is going to happen.

 

[TXmat]

LOL: If it is just a tree, I don't know about replacing it. I would have the only one with a significant indentation in the hood & front bumper. It would be a unique Genesis.

I too think it is reliable and the power train warranty should take care of any of the engine and transmission. I Just don't have a good idea of the cost of non warranty items and how likely they are to fail. I looked at the referenced thread and noticed Mark 888 said he would have a different opinion if you had the Tech Package which I do. Maybe Mark888 will come on and share his insights.

 

[Mark_888]

My insight (having read most of the posts on this forum over the last 5 years, and not from personal experience since I don't have the Tech Package), is that any kind of repair to the Tech Package audio/video system is very expensive, since they have to replace the entire component they "think" is not working (such as head unit, amp, display, etc). The dealer cannot open up an audio/video head unit or amp and fix any of the circuitry inside.

Most people who have head units replaced under warranty said they were told by the dealer the parts charge (not including labor) would have been $3,000. You can look at a online parts website like www.newhyundaiparts.com to confirm that. Unfortunately, the aftermarket UNAVI system is only currently available for Genesis Sedans that did not come with factory NAV units (although they are considering making such a unit).

 

[TXmat]

Thanks Mark. I looked at the online parts website and it is a little hard to tell, but I would guess your $3,000 for parts is not far off give or take $500. It makes it a little harder to decide if I want to take the risk. In your reading of posts have you seen many that had to replace the head units before 100K miles?

 

[Mark_888]

Thanks Mark. I looked at the online parts website and it is a little hard to tell, but I would guess your $3,000 for parts is not far off give or take $500. It makes it a little harder to decide if I want to take the risk. In your reading of posts have you seen many that had to replace the head units before 100K miles?

There certainly were a lot of replacements of major audio/video components under warranty, although I don't think there were a lot of replacements required due to a complete failure. Most of the time dealers had to replace components due to intermittent problems or other issues less than complete failure that maybe someone could live with if it was out of warranty. Also, a fair number of people have an extended 10 year - 100K warranty that covers the audio/video system (standard warranty on those components are 3 years - 36K miles).

 

[GRIFF]

I believe the radar module for speed control and vehicle collision avoidance is a $7,000.00 out of warranty ticket for the tech. package vehicles.

GRIFF

 

[Mark_888]

I believe the radar module for speed control and vehicle collision avoidance is a $7,000.00 out of warranty ticket for the tech. package vehicles.

GRIFF

That is good to know. But for the OP it does not apply since 2009 Tech Package did not have that feature.

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[427435]

My experience over 50+ years of driving is that electronic stuff usually fails relatively early. If that stuff survives a few years and 50,000 miles it isn't real likely to fail. Engines and tranny's also either fail early or will usually run for 200,000 miles (if maintained and not abused).

That leaves things like alternators, fuel pumps, starters etc. I have had most of my problems with those things between 100,000 and 130,000 miles. While not necessarily cheap, they are cheaper than most new car payments.

 

[Mark_888]

My experience over 50+ years of driving is that electronic stuff usually fails relatively early. If that stuff survives a few years and 50,000 miles it isn't real likely to fail. Engines and tranny's also either fail early or will usually run for 200,000 miles (if maintained and not abused).

That leaves things like alternators, fuel pumps, starters etc. I have had most of my problems with those things between 100,000 and 130,000 miles. While not necessarily cheap, they are cheaper than most new car payments.

The longevity of electronic components is tricky. Their life can be influenced by extremely cold or hot ambient conditions even when they are not turned on. Extremely low or high humidity can affect them also. Computers built for cars are relatively robust, but I don't think many home computers would fare so well if continually subjected to near zero temperature conditions. Some electronic components, such as capacitors, can dry up over time.

 

[Epiphany]

The longevity of electronic components is tricky. Their life can be influenced by extremely cold or hot ambient conditions even when they are not turned on. Extremely low or high humidity can affect them also. Computers built for cars are relatively robust, but I don't think many home computers would fare so well if continually subjected to near zero temperature conditions. Some electronic components, such as capacitors, can dry up over time.

I wish my car was only subject to near zero temperature conditions.

 

[Jimmmmbo!]

I wish my car was only subject to near zero temperature conditions.

I hear you there. This winter's been brutal.

 

[Epiphany]

I hear you there. This winter's been brutal.

I was excited because I thought the weeks of -20 were over, then I turn on the news this morning and see it's going down to -31 this weekend. Sure hoping this is the end of the cold soon.

 

[7i bigblock]

I have a 2009 Genesis V6 with all the options available at that time including the navigation system. I now have 64,000 miles on it. Best I can figure from the blue books it has depreciated somewhere between 60% - 64% over these 5 years. I now trying to determine should I sell it or keep it. I have only had two significant problems. First, I had the selection knob for the radio & nav go bad and it was replaced. Second, the car quit on me on the highway and it had to be towed to the nearest Hyundai dealer (which Hyundai paid for) and one of the onboard computers had to be replaced. Other than these two waranty repairs only routine and recommended service has been necessary.

In making my decision I am interested in what major expenses that are not covered by warranty I could incur. For example if the NAV system dies what would it cost to fix? Are there other major non warranty expenses I should anticipate? Thanks in advance for any input.

Ive read most of the posts here. Isn't the answer , get the extended warranty, which many members bought because of the great expense of electronic component replacement. I remember previous posts saying they can get the best coverage for 10 years /100k for $1300 thru Hyundai ---not third person. This seems like a good buy . If your trading every 3 years, you dont have to worry-- your covered. 7i bigblock