The cake is fully baked this time around.

[videopho]

So the 1st gen was a little raw then. LOL.

Excerpts from NY Times review...

"That Genesis was mostly a skin-deep simulation of a luxury sedan, and it looked as generic as a Korean airport taxi. The Hyundai’s woozy handling and jiggly, dated chassis made it the s’mores of luxury sedans, a half-baked marshmallow smooshed into a stale graham cracker."

"Now the second chapter of the Genesis has begun, and while the redesigned model is not a full-on revelation, it earned serious praise over a week of testing in the New York area."

"Over the last decade, Hyundai has learned from the masters, beginning with the mainstream and now applying lessons gleaned from the Germans. Judging from the results, brands like Acura, Buick and Lincoln might set their pride aside and start taking lessons from Hyundai."


Full Review.

 

[Ernie3647]

Good article but no full sized spare.

 

[ksoze]

...and the "enormous" trunk is actually smaller than the previous model.

 

[Pahaska]

Good article but no full sized spare.

My 3 previous Hyundais did not have full-size spares (Sonata, Azera, Genesis) and the spare never touched the ground on any of them over a period of ten years. The need for full-size spares is pretty much past except for off-roaders. The cost and weight can not be justified for the general case.

 

[Pahaska]

...and the "enormous" trunk is actually smaller than the previous model.

I'll happily trade a small decrease in trunk space for the improved ride.

 

[ksoze]

Relax Pahaska, we're just pointing out inconsistencies in what was essentially a very good review. And the trunk size does not likely effect the ride.

 

[PMCErnie]

Supposedly, the trunk had to be shrunk somewhat to improve the suspension of the '15. Still, Hyundai should have used a donut spare to try to offset that loss a bit. They also could have added a fold-down rear seat.

What annoys most about this Times article is that the first gen Genesis beat the pants off cars like the Lexus ES and the Infinity G37. How quickly folks forget. But we don't forget.

 

[Hstead]

I am torn between the two, 15 and 14. These articles make me lean toward the 15, but the frugal side of me is leaning 14 Tech or maybe R-spec. $35K or $38K just seems like too good of a deal to pass up. I want the adaptive cruise. I also want AWD. I would have to shell out $44K for that in the 15.

 

[nextcar]

i didn't know my 1st gen was such a crappy car like the reviewer stated.
i have really enjoyed the super smooth powertrain and quiet ride.
however, i do wish the suspension handled bumps better, and i want the ride to not feel a bit jittery.

that's why i'll be replacing my genesis soon.

 

[66nexus]

It's funny how the article points out how bad the 1st gen was, and then goes on to praise features in the 2nd gen that actually existed in the 1st gen.

It's okay for the 2nd gen to be 'better', without the 1st gen being 'bad'. I don't know why folks have a hard time reconciling the two. I remember reading reviews back in '09 stating that over harsh bumps the car rode jittery, but everywhere else it was unmatched. Expect a myriad of different reviews on this one.

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[Ernie3647]

Supposedly, the trunk had to be shrunk somewhat to improve the suspension of the '15. Still, Hyundai should have used a donut spare to try to offset that loss a bit. They also could have added a fold-down rear seat.

What annoys most about this Times article is that the first gen Genesis beat the pants off cars like the Lexus ES and the Infinity G37. How quickly folks forget. But we don't forget.

It does have a donut spare.
Yes it would have been nice to finally get the fold down rear seats.

 

[PMCErnie]

It does have a donut spare.
Yes it would have been nice to finally get the fold down rear seats.

So, the Times article was wrong about the spare too.

 

[Ernie3647]

So, the Times article was wrong about the spare too.

Good article but no full sized spare.

Yes it was....
I too believe it was duly unfair in it's assessment of the 1st Generation car.
I still think my 2011 was a very good car and a great value.

 

[katman0]

Yes it was....
I too believe it was duly unfair in it's assessment of the 1st Generation car.
I still think my 2011 was a very good car and a great value.

I agree. My 2012 has only 26000km or less than 15000miles. it will be my very satisfying daily driver for a long time. It would cost me the price of a very nicely loaded new car on top of my 2012 to move on up to a similarly optioned 2015.

 

[Mark_888]

i didn't know my 1st gen was such a crappy car like the reviewer stated.
i have really enjoyed the super smooth powertrain and quiet ride.
however, i do wish the suspension handled bumps better, and i want the ride to not feel a bit jittery.

that's why i'll be replacing my genesis soon.

New York City streets are horrendous, and the early Genesis sedan suspension was horrendous, hence the lack of enthusiasm that they had for the car.

 

[YEH]

The thing is, the reviewer seems to be basing everything about the 1G Genesis from the 1st model year, which not only had the bad suspension tuning, but the awful OEM Dunlops.

From the '12MY onward (at least for the non R-Spec), the ride by all accounts is pretty decent so this would be misleading to those who aren't familiar with the subsequent improvements and may be contemplating a '14MY model.

Also, the styling of the 1G model was no more bland than the competition (such as the 5 Series - which it looked like from the side) and actually, a bit better than most after the MCE (which improved the headlights and taillights).

The biggest issue w/ the 1G model at the end of its model run was the design of the dash and the materials used for the switchgear (silver painted plastic - ughh) and the absent steering feel.

 

[PMCErnie]

New York City streets are horrendous, and the early Genesis sedan suspension was horrendous, hence the lack of enthusiasm that they had for the car.

The thing is, the reviewer seems to be basing everything about the 1G Genesis from the 1st model year, which not only had the bad suspension tuning, but the awful OEM Dunlops.

From the '12MY onward (at least for the non R-Spec), the ride by all accounts is pretty decent so this would be misleading to those who aren't familiar with the subsequent improvements and may be contemplating a '14MY model.

Also, the styling of the 1G model was no more bland than the competition (such as the 5 Series - which it looked like from the side) and actually, a bit better than most after the MCE (which improved the headlights and taillights).

The biggest issue w/ the 1G model at the end of its model run was the design of the dash and the materials used for the switchgear (silver painted plastic - ughh) and the absent steering feel.

Funny too, the "absent" steering feel seems limited to the Tech package models. My vacuum steering Premium model handles great.

 

[Pahaska]

The thing is, the reviewer seems to be basing everything about the 1G Genesis from the 1st model year, which not only had the bad suspension tuning, but the awful OEM Dunlops.

The biggest issue w/ the 1G model at the end of its model run was the design of the dash and the materials used for the switchgear (silver painted plastic - ughh) and the absent steering feel.

I had a 2009 Tech V-8 until a couple of weeks ago. I'll agree with the dash comment. Although I loved the leather, the general dash design and the switches looked a bit cheap. Not so on my 2015.

As for the steering feel, once I replaced the original Dunlops with Michelins, the steering feel was OK. I live on curvy and hilly roads in the Hill Country of Texas and I found the steering with the Michelins good, but not great. There was more body roll than I would prefer, but the car hung in on curves just fine. The Lotus tuning of the 2015 makes it great on my roads.

As an old fighter pilot, I'm pretty sensitive to control response. Outside of the body roll and Dunlops, I found little to fault the first generation.

 

[sandy]

Caution! After reading a NY Times review, your car may start drifting to the left.