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Whine / Noise under hood

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I have a whine when I start the engine it is the same noise if engine is cold or hot. This past Friday made a 865 mile road trip when idling or moving at low speed both the wife and I could hear this noise.

The car has 50,000 miles and I suspect it is the alternator but wonder if other have had this problem?

Thanks in advance for any reply
 
Yes- have same issue- did not start until after 30,000 mile service. Took back and they replaced the compressor- seemed odd since a 2012. Picked up- same noise at low speeds. Took to another service place- they said it could be the fly wheel. THey had to order part- has taken 10 days to get the part. If that does not work- they said it may be that I will need a new engine or transmission. We bought this car- brand new- should not need any of these!! UGGH!
 
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Sorry for the delay, but the problem was the idle pulley replaced all is good.
 
They had to replace my transmission- solved the noise issue.
 
My 2010 has recently developed this same problem. The car has about 30,000 miles on it. I expect problems in getting it repaired as the dealership here has a horrible service department.
 
I've had the whine for quite awhile and finally called my Hyundai service dept. and explained the issue and what was most likely the issue (idler pulley). Just to cover my a$$, I recorded it on my iphone before I left for the service appointment.

Of course, when I got there, the mechanic couldn't reproduce the sound, so I played my iphone recording. I guess that still wasn't good enough because they wanted to make sure the power steering screen wasn't clogged. Also they had not heard of idler pulley issues and didn't want to throw parts at the issue.

Since I had to drive quite a way to the dealer- I had called the parts department in advance and made sure that they had the idler pulley in stock. I told the service writer to put in the pulley and if it didn't solve the issue-I'd eat the bill.

It is now much quieter on cold startup but there still seems to be a mild "whine". Is this something that's hereditary to the GDI or should the whine be completely gone or should I be looking elsewhere?
 
Whine sounds can come from a large variety of sources... typical sources though are:
* anything with a bearing, especially one that is loaded constantly like the idler pulley. Other items hard on bearings include alternators and water pumps... anything driven by the serpentine belt. Sometimes you can hear noise coming from the cooling fan on the front of an alternator; there isn't much that can be done about this as it's a result of the fan design, not of a failed part. When the water pump bearing fully goes bad you'll hear a sound like marbles rolling around a large empty coffee can. It's a very distinctive sound usually accompanied by a few drops of anti-freeze slowly leaking from the bottom/front of the water pump.

* electric power steering pump. Actually, any power steering pump but electric ones are prone to a humming sound. Often these are temperature sensitive too; when very cold the fluid can be thicker and thus harder to pump. Air in the system, or the wrong fluid (many cars use auto transmission fluid instead of power steering fluid) will lead to whine noises. Often the power steering system will have a bleed port (just like brake caliper bleed ports, typically located on the steering rack/gearbox) to remove air. Cycling the steering wheel stop-to-stop slowly a few times is often enough to bleed a system, especially when it's done after a long drive that heated the fluid.

* fuel pumps though usually that is a noise from the rear of the vehicle; on many cars it is especially noticeable when the engine is running with the gas cap removed - such cars have the pump IN the fuel tank, rather than near it. Fuel rapidly flowing from the pump, to the fuel pressure regulator (little beer keg/UFO shaped thing on the top of the engine at the ends of the "fuel rails" feeding the injectors), and then back to the tank can whine if there are restrictions (kinks/dents in the pipes) or flashing bits (manufacturing defects leaving extra metal inside the pipes/connectors, metal slivers from machining, etc) in the pipes/hoses.

Want to hear some horrible noises? Get a "mechanic's stethoscope" which is a stethoscope with a metal rod as a pick-up instead of the cold-to-the-touch end of a typical doctor's stethoscope. You can make one with a small diameter rubber tube (e.g. vacuum or windshield washer hose) and a metal rod, skinny screw, screwdriver shank, etc, stuck into the end of the tube. Touch various engine parts (while the engine is idling) with the metal end... you'll hear a lot of "whooshing" sounds, rhythmic pulses (marbles rolling around fast in a coffee can), clacking of injectors, clacking of valves and rocker arms, etc. Just don't touch anything actually moving or that is exhaust-pipe hot! Replace the metal rod with a small funnel and use that to localize mystery sounds you can hear un-aided. Works surprisingly well. And then you can have the dealer tech listen as well.

mike c.
 
how loud is the whining you guys are hearing.
I hear a noise like this when the stereo is off. It changes tones as the engine changes speeds. I can hear it when driving, but is more pronounced when engine speeds change, like when passing, or when starting from a stop.
It is annoying, but not sure that they will do anything since it is not super loud.
Mine sounds like a whoosh coming more from the driver's side than the passengers side.
 
how loud is the whining you guys are hearing.
I hear a noise like this when the stereo is off. It changes tones as the engine changes speeds. I can hear it when driving, but is more pronounced when engine speeds change, like when passing, or when starting from a stop.
It is annoying, but not sure that they will do anything since it is not super loud.
Mine sounds like a whoosh coming more from the driver's side than the passengers side.

It wasn't all that loud, and it sounded like a transmission noise, or a power-steering pump noise. I was a little surprised when it turned out to be the idle pulley.
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Its a common issue with the 3.3 and the 3.8. I find it funny how they told you that they haven't heard of this issue. For awhile we were changing them out quite often and some customers even liked it because they said it sounds like they have a supercharger. :D
 
I had this same issue with the whining noise. It started after I took in to the dealer for an unrelated engine light issue. At first only I noticed it but, it got louder (over the course of a year) until other people noticed it. So I took it in and the dealer replaced the idler pulley bearing, its still under warranty at 46K. Now its quiet again, which is one of the reasons I like this car!
 
Mine started out loudest when the engine was started and then quieted down after awhile. It does sound like a squealing power steering pump.
 
Hey guys. I am getting the whining noise on my 2012 R-Spec. Yes sir it finally reared its ugly head. Faint but none-the-less noticeable.

Will take it into the dealership. Car has 40k miles on it.
 
Hey guys. I am getting the whining noise on my 2012 R-Spec. Yes sir it finally reared its ugly head. Faint but none-the-less noticeable.

Will take it into the dealership. Car has 40k miles on it.

It was an idle pulley bearing in my case.
 
I've got a similar noise in our 2011 3.8. When I left it idling in the driveway and removed the engine cover, I took a used wrapping paper tube (it's that time of year), and moved it about. This pulley had an obvious rattle/whine to it:

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Is this the pulley everyone else has had replaced? Will Hyundai's CPO warranty cover it?

BTW, we haven't even crossed 40k miles yet...

Oh, and the rubber foot under the edge of the engine cover is missing. Is there a place like RealOEM.com but for Hyundais so I can look up a part number?
 
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Just to add a data point, my 2011 3.8 sedan with 39000 miles developed the engine whine. The dealer determined it to be a bad idler pulley. They replaced it under warranty. I was surprised they had one in stock.
 
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