Dissapointed?

[Mark_888]

so I test drove the 2015 V6 version yesterday while bringing my 09 in for service, gotta say I felt a little disappointed.

... the steering wheels is made out of hard plastic/leather material vs wood

2009 V8 does not have a wood steering wheel. It is "wood-grained" plastic. I don't know if 2009 "appears" to be more like real wood than the 2015 steering wheel, but it is not wood.

 

[Nikgen]

The v6 has enough power for all merging situations? Why would you make a statement like that when obviously you haven't tried it in all situations.

Plus insulting the guy when he's giving his opinion doesn't belong here.

Yes: in my opinion, and assuming you are driving responsibly and not trying to wedge yourself in where there really isn't enough room, the V6 has enough power for all merging situations - and not to take away from the V8's better off the line acceleration but, on slick roads (rain, snow, etc.,), I'd take the AWD V6 over the RWD V8 any day in a merging situation (though Canadian's don't have to make that choice - they can have the best of both).

I apologized for the harshness of my initial response to the OP already, so that's covered...

 

[Monolith2001]

I'd say that you've just become accustomed to an excess of power. No one could reasonably call the V6's acceleration lacking or disappointing unless they are just so used to having an over abundance of it. I've driven a number of very powerful cars and can agree that the V6 is not that but I think one will find that the V6 is very quick for 95% of the real world situations you will find on the road. The other 5% are mostly elective.

No one can tell you how you felt when driving it but certainly those who own one can tell you what it is like to own one. I am quite satisfied with the power and that's coming from someone who loves to get going in a hurry. Out of the things I might wish for on this car, more power from the engine isn't even in my top 10.

 

[amartz]

What I've seen from a handful of Gen1 owners is a disdain for the new models who try to put it down whenever the opportunity arises.

Other than the fact that it's ugly, heavier, slower, more expensive, missing some nice features (steerable headlights, fog lights). Oh, did I mention it's ugly?

 

[Nikgen]

Other than the fact that it's ugly, heavier, slower, more expensive, missing some nice features (steerable headlights, fog lights). Oh, did I mention it's ugly?

Beauty is subjective... Me - I think the 2015 is a huge improvement over the prior model - to me the Gen 1 looked like a mash up of Lexus and MB and had no real "look" of it's own... So, a nice car, but it never caught my eye. I think the 2015 does have a distinctive look that is eye catching... but this is all a matter of personal taste, so there is no right answer - just personal opinions on what we like.

BTW - the Gen 1 was missing a few things as well - I'll take AWD and the vastly enhanced safety features and ride quality/refinement over steerable headlights any day.

...and while admittedly a miss by Hyundai to not be included on the USA V6 at least an a dealer installed option, I just installed the OEM LED foglights myself, so no biggie!

 

[Nikgen]

I'd say that you've just become accustomed to an excess of power. No one could reasonably call the V6's acceleration lacking or disappointing unless they are just so used to having an over abundance of it. I've driven a number of very powerful cars and can agree that the V6 is not that but I think one will find that the V6 is very quick for 95% of the real world situations you will find on the road. The other 5% are mostly elective.

No one can tell you how you felt when driving it but certainly those who own one can tell you what it is like to own one. I am quite satisfied with the power and that's coming from someone who loves to get going in a hurry. Out of the things I might wish for on this car, more power from the engine isn't even in my top 10.

Better said and less controversial than how I put it - agreed. Thx.

 

[amartz]

Beauty is subjective... I think the 2015 does have a distinctive look that is eye catching... but this is all a matter of personal taste, so there is no right answer - just personal opinions on what we like.

Agreed. And I do agree that the 2015 is eye-catching, followed immediately by a "Bleh"! ;-)

 

[amartz]

BTW - the Gen 1 was missing a few things as well - I'll take AWD and the vastly enhanced safety features and ride quality/refinement over steerable headlights any day.

I *like* my dancing headlights! Anytime someone disses the ride quality of the Gen1, I feel like they are lumping all models and all years of Gen1 together, which is a big mistake. And, I just got in my rigid collars, which I've been led to believe that on a 2012+ puts the handling close to the refinement of the Gen2. It will be interesting to see. My local Hyundai dealer is interested also.

 

[jimb100]

Yes: in my opinion, and assuming you are driving responsibly and not trying to wedge yourself in where there really isn't enough room, the V6 has enough power for all merging situations - and not to take away from the V8's better off the line acceleration but, on slick roads (rain, snow, etc.,), I'd take the AWD V6 over the RWD V8 any day in a merging situation (though Canadian's don't have to make that choice - they can have the best of both).

I apologized for the harshness of my initial response to the OP already, so that's covered...

Sure, bicycles have enough power to merge if you wait until there's no traffic.

What the 5.0 gives you is a margin of safety so you can merge on busy roads without the car approaching needing to hit the brakes, and the horn.

Where I live in Florida there are plenty of roads with 3 lanes in either direction and endless strip mall and unlimited access. These roads are always busy. The speed limit is 55 and people routinely do 65. The extra power in the V8 allows you to more comfortably merge.

I drove the V6 several times before buying as did my wife. Last year she bought a V6 Lexus and hates the lack of power.

Perhaps in your driving environment the V6 works fine but don't assume every set of road conditions is the same as yours.

 

[Nikgen]

Sure, bicycles have enough power to merge if you wait until there's no traffic.

What the 5.0 gives you is a margin of safety so you can merge on busy roads without the car approaching needing to hit the brakes, and the horn.

Where I live in Florida there are plenty of roads with 3 lanes in either direction and endless strip mall and unlimited access. These roads are always busy. The speed limit is 55 and people routinely do 65. The extra power in the V8 allows you to more comfortably merge.

I drove the V6 several times before buying as did my wife. Last year she bought a V6 Lexus and hates the lack of power.

Perhaps in your driving environment the V6 works fine but don't assume every set of road conditions is the same as yours.

Ok - so, without a V8 (which the VAST majority on the road are not), merging can be a problem? I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous to me. I'm in congested NJ and travel into NYC several times a month - I've never had a problem and that's more challenging driving than Florida (imho). But you're entitled to your opinion. Look - I get the that the V8 has more grunt and can merge a little quicker - my issue is the suggestion that the V6 is a problem in merging situations- in the Op's case, claiming it almost caused an accident - if that was truly the case, then the merge should not have been attempted even with a V8. I've had plenty of people floor it and get in front of me over the years and it's not appreciated in many cases - just because you have the power to squeeze in doesn't mean you should.

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[markpoisson]

Ok - so, without a V8 (which the VAST majority on the road are not), merging can be a problem - that's ridiculous to me. I'm in congested NJ and travel into NYC several times a month - I've never had a problem and that's more challenging driving than Florida (imho). But you're entitled to your opinion.

I agree - I came from a G35S that was very fast. The 3.8 is not nearly as fast but it is not unsafe by any stretch of the imagination. And trust me, I am anything but a conservative driver. I do admit that it does take some getting used to the throttle mapping. As has been said, the mode makes a HUGE difference. I find around town, I tend to keep it in Sport. That helps quite a bit.

Like anything new, it takes some getting used to. As for forming an opinion on the virtue of any car, anyone would be hard pressed to accurately assess all the ins/outs of any car.

Lastly, I have the Ultimate and every time I get in, I am reminded of how nicely put together the car is. The materials are top notch.

 

[kev4]

so I test drove the 2015 V6 version yesterday while bringing my 09 in for service, gotta say I felt a little disappointed.

First the acceleration of the V6 was slow compare to my V8 (before you blast me, I know this is the case with V6, I just wasnt realized it was that bad, almost got in an accident trying to merge). I realized this is an easy fix by just buying the V8.

The inside felt smaller, I am not sure why but the inside seem more claustrophobic.

Last but not least is the refinement, dont get me wrong its luxurious for what it is, but compare to the last gen, it seems hyundai try to make things cheaper, the back holder (sorry not sure the official name) is made out of plastic vs leather, the steering wheels is made out of hard plastic/leather material vs wood, the leather seems a little harder than my V8's. I'm wondering if all these things are because I choose to test drove the V6 version instead of V8.

FYI I test drove the package with 14 lexicon speaker, cant remember the option name but it also come with Panoramic sunroof.


just curious if anyone felt the same :/

There are Bold pilots and there are Old pilots, but there are NO Bold Old pilots.
Driving is a skill much refined by common sense and intelligence, both do not require a V8 to merge into traffic. Mario

 

[kev4]

I don't see how that make me a jerk? When you merge u must accellerate fast enough to get in front of the car, you obviously can't stop in the highway or slow down or the car will hit you from behind....pretty sure that's common sense

Merge can be done by fitting into the traffic either in front or behind. If a car is travelling on the highway you are merging onto and it is going 80mph, it does not mean you have to merge in front of that car. Secondly, the traffic behind you must insure that they keep a safe following distance.

 

[jimb100]

Ok - so, without a V8 (which the VAST majority on the road are not), merging can be a problem? I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous to me. I'm in congested NJ and travel into NYC several times a month - I've never had a problem and that's more challenging driving than Florida (imho). But you're entitled to your opinion. Look - I get the that the V8 has more grunt and can merge a little quicker - my issue is the suggestion that the V6 is a problem in merging situations- in the Op's case, claiming it almost caused an accident - if that was truly the case, then the merge should not have been attempted even with a V8. I've had plenty of people floor it and get in front of me over the years and it's not appreciated in many cases - just because you have the power to squeeze in doesn't mean you should.

I lived in NJ and commuted into Manhattan and yes, driving in Florida is more challenging. In NJ most people drive fast and predictably. In Florida, some drive very fast, some drive very slow.

You are missing the point. The V8 gives an EXTRA margin of comfortable acceleration that makes merging into traffic easier.

Also, combined with the 8 speed, the power flow is effortless.

I can say from driving both that the V6 makes you work a bit harder to achieve merging speeds and and isn't nearly as effortless.

Why can't you face it? An extra 100 horse power makes a big difference. Its 1/3 more HP than the V6 with a corresponding increase in torque.

Do you really think 1/3 more HP is inconsequential?

I can see if you need better gas mileage. I don't as I only drive 4-5000 miles a year. I can see if are in the US and want AWD. I live in Florida and don't ever see snow.

But to say the V8 isn't useful is to try to ignore 100 HP more. Sorry, its a BIG difference.

 

[Alwaysforward]

I like my new 2015 Genesis, but what brought me to Hyundai in the first place was the 2012 RSPEC commercial in the Superbowl. Ever since then, I was hooked. If I had my choice I would have my 2015 setting right next to a RSPEC. I like both designs as they each have a distinct look all their own. Regarding my 2015, we continue to get asked what kind of car it is. I was in buying a new pool stick while the wife was in the car, a group of guys walked outside the billiard bar and asked her who makes this car. They were shocked when she told them it was Hyundai Genesis.

 

[Nikgen]

I lived in NJ and commuted into Manhattan and yes, driving in Florida is more challenging. In NJ most people drive fast and predictably. In Florida, some drive very fast, some drive very slow.

You are missing the point. The V8 gives an EXTRA margin of comfortable acceleration that makes merging into traffic easier.

Also, combined with the 8 speed, the power flow is effortless.

I can say from driving both that the V6 makes you work a bit harder to achieve merging speeds and and isn't nearly as effortless.

Why can't you face it? An extra 100 horse power makes a big difference. Its 1/3 more HP than the V6 with a corresponding increase in torque.

Do you really think 1/3 more HP is inconsequential?

I can see if you need better gas mileage. I don't as I only drive 4-5000 miles a year. I can see if are in the US and want AWD. I live in Florida and don't ever see snow.

But to say the V8 isn't useful is to try to ignore 100 HP more. Sorry, its a BIG difference.

It's you that continues to miss the point. I have not argued about the extra power in the V8 - I get that. My point was that portraying the V6 as underpowered to the point of it almost causing accidents in merging situations is silly - and I stick by that: it's a ridiculous statement!

Also - NJ/NY drivers do not all drive fast - lot's of varying speeds (maybe you've been out of the area for a while?). Needing decent acceleration is important in Manhattan - while the V8 is certainly quicker, I've never
been concerned driving my V6 in there!

My brother lived in FL (Coral Springs) for many years - he always said the biggest needs were good brakes and handling as the older folks ("white tops" was what he called them in reference to the fact that all you'd see from behind is the puff of white hair over the seat) have a tendency to routinely just pull out in front of you at inappropriately close range!

 

[ksoze]

Why can't you face it? An extra 100 horse power makes a big difference. Its 1/3 more HP than the V6 with a corresponding increase in torque.

To be fair however, the V8 is over 400 lbs. heavier. It is like having two extra adults in the car which is using some of those extra ponies.

 

[amartz]

While I've always subscribed to the saying that too much horsepower is just enough, thankyou, I've never felt the need for more while coming down an entrance ramp onto a freeway. If anything, about the time I merge in, I look back at the speedo, and *damn*, better let up on the gas before a cop sees me!!

 

[UmALum1990]

I just purchased a 2015 3.8 Signature. I previously leased a 2012 4.6 As for acceleration, I do not notice much of a difference. Sure, the V8 in my '12 had a little more pep, but not anything that I feel I am missing by going with the V6. However, I have not driven a 2015 V8, so I cannot give any insight. If you felt lack of passing power, the car may have been in eco mode. There is also an option for "Normal" and Sport.. The ride/ handling on the '15 is far and away better than what I experienced on my 2012; more rigid, righter feel, less roll. As for less space. That is not true, however, the center console (shift/ cup holder area) is higher up, giving you a more "compartmentalized" space. I prefer this to my '12.

I have the signature package, so there is some vinyl trim on the seat, but opt for the tech package, and you get premium leather seats. I chose to not go above the Signature package, as many features I had in the V8, that are included in the tech package, I never used; Lane Departure Warning, Adaptive Cruise control (the few times I did use it, it was great), so I chose to save the Money there. I do miss the parking sensors, esp in the front (since there is a rear camera) and losing 3 speakers in the Lexicon System (14 in 2015 vs. 17 in 2012) is noticeable (and I miss the ability to play DVD Audio Discs). I do not know why they omitted fog lights on the 2015 V6, when a Sonata had LED fog lights. That is one of my few pet peeves on this car. Otherwise, I could not be happier.

 

[joeyz400]

I have a question.... If you own a V8 just get another V8. Test an Ultimate V8 and see how you feel about 2nd Gen.