Lost Fob - How to start??

[kn5owa]

Curious?

How do others deal with the problem of losing your smart key (fob) when traveling?

The metal key apparently works on door and trunk only.

The manual says to call a tow truck (thanks, Hyundai).

The inside of the trunk lid has what appears to be a fob holder - I suppose one could put a fob there, and hide a metal key in a magnetic box. Assuming a spare fob in the trunk causes no other problems.

Any ideas?

 

[Mark_888]

Any ideas?

The original selling dealer may have the information to create a new keyfob. Otherwise, call a tow truck.

 

[kn5owa]

It's a catch - 22. If you're on the road and lose your fob - they need the old one to program a replacement (also, the replacement is a special order item). And, in the situation presented, you won't have the old one anyway (it's gone).

As far as towing, this is precisely what I would like to avoid in the most expedient (and cheapest) way possible).

 

[Analog]

Wonder if bluelink could start your car remotely, then you could drive it to a dealership? That would at least prevent the need for towing.


I don't think a mechanism exists to start the car without the fob otherwise, as the fob is part of the theft prevention system.

 

[homeofstone]

You should have two fobs. Also you cannot leave a smart fob in the car and be able to lock it. This is nothing new regarding smart key fobs.

 

[kn5owa]

You should have two fobs. Also you cannot leave a smart fob in the car and be able to lock it. This is nothing new regarding smart key fobs.

What I'm thinking is to put a spare fob in the trunk - there seems to be a bracket made for one located on the lower side of the trunk lid. Then one can retrieve it using a metal key hidden in a magnetic box.

If an active fob in the trunk causes locking or other problems, then I'll remove the battery from it.

I haven't tried it yet but I think the battery is only required for the "button" functions on the fob - in any event I'll stow the battery inside the car.

But no way on God's green earth will I let someone tow a $50K car for lack of a fob or a key of some sort.

As an aside, the manual does say that the car will accept 3 fobs. Hard information on the subject is almost impossible to get from dealers - except for the price tags - they all want a fortune for fobs and programming - and they can't even cut the "sidewinder" metal keys - you gotta go to a lock shop for that (a well equipped one).

 

[StarPower]

Wonder if bluelink could start your car remotely, then you could drive it to a dealership? That would at least prevent the need for towing.


I don't think a mechanism exists to start the car without the fob otherwise, as the fob is part of the theft prevention system.

When the car is started remotely, you still need the fob to take it out of park or drive it. Unfortunately in this case, the car is designed to not be able to be driven without the fob.

I wonder if the dealership would bring a new fob and the computer to program it to your car. It's not likely, but it won't hurt to ask them.

 

[homeofstone]

What I'm thinking is to put a spare fob in the trunk - there seems to be a bracket made for one located on the lower side of the trunk lid. Then one can retrieve it using a metal key hidden in a magnetic box.

If an active fob in the trunk causes locking or other problems, then I'll remove the battery from it.

I haven't tried it yet but I think the battery is only required for the "button" functions on the fob - in any event I'll stow the battery inside the car.

But no way on God's green earth will I let someone tow a $50K car for lack of a fob or a key of some sort.

As an aside, the manual does say that the car will accept 3 fobs. Hard information on the subject is almost impossible to get from dealers - except for the price tags - they all want a fortune for fobs and programming - and they can't even cut the "sidewinder" metal keys - you gotta go to a lock shop for that (a well equipped one).

I have not ordered an extra fob for my Hyundai Genesis, however I have ordered one for my Mercedes and it took about three days for it to arrive and I do have three for my Mercedes. The Hyundai dealers should be able to order a complete fob with the key using the VIN of your car. A fob is about 200.00 which is not a fortune regarding a $50k car.

 

[kn5owa]

All of the charges around here (D.C. area) would total up to perhaps $400 -- there's a "blank" fob for $250, $120 for programming, and another $50 to a local locksmith to cut the metal key. And no, the dealer's don't make house calls.

But, I'll probably spring for it anyway - This car is fantastic in all other respects.

 

[homeofstone]

All of the charges around here (D.C. area) would total up to perhaps $400 -- there's a "blank" fob for $250, $120 for programming, and another $50 to a local locksmith to cut the metal key. And no, the dealer's don't make house calls.

But, I'll probably spring for it anyway - This car is fantastic in all other respects.

Ok I agree that 400.00 is way overpriced. I paid 220.00 for my Mercedes keyless go fob with key. There must be Hyundai dealer's with more reasonable prices. Maybe someone on this forum can help out for the D C. area.

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[kn5owa]

Ok I agree that 400.00 is way overpriced. I paid 220.00 for my Mercedes keyless go fob with key. There must be Hyundai dealer's with more reasonable prices. Maybe someone on this forum can help out for the D C. area.

Don't think so - that's life up north. And the dealers don't even want to touch it at that price. That's why I'm planning ahead.

And, I was led to understand that you need the old fob to program a new one, so a VIN number won't do it.

Anyway, thanks for the input from everybody.

I esp. like the idea of using a smartphone to get you going - but the Genesis is too smart for that. Thinking out the box, though.

 

[radicaltimes]

If you take the battery out of the fob you can put it in the trunk with out any issues other than when you lose a fob the car will more than likely be locked. The fob without a battery will still start the car if you insert it into the slot down below the radio

 

[kn5owa]

If you take the battery out of the fob you can put it in the trunk with out any issues other than when you lose a fob the car will more than likely be locked. The fob without a battery will still start the car if you insert it into the slot down below the radio

I was thinking of putting the battery in one of the many little compartments. Or taping it somewhere. A metal key will open the car, also.

I don't see any slots in my car although I have seen many references to them in other cars. In any case, I'm pretty sure a batteryless fob will act as a passive transponder and start the car.

Another little mystery - there is a little compartment on the underside rear of the trunk lid that is perfectly designed for a spare fob. But, it seems to be undocumented. I saw one photo on the 'net where someone was using it as a hanger for a scraper.

 

[Alwaysforward]

Are you talking about this?

 

[kn5owa]

Nope - that's not mine at all.

My gen. (7 days old) has a little triangular shaped container/box on the underside of the trunk lid. You pull down the cover - it unlatches at the top - and inside is a perfectly shaped enclosure just made for a fob - even has a patch of foam rubber about a half inch thick to hold it in place.

 

[Mark_888]

I don't see any slots in my car although I have seen many references to them in other cars.

After about 2012, there is no slot on the dash to put the keyfob in if the battery is dead. For those without a slot, they tell you to just put the kebfob up close to the start button. This should be covered in the owners manual. I don't know if it works with no battery at all, but it might.

 

[Alwaysforward]

Here is the info from the manual regarding the Key Fob:

 

[Midnightsun]

Nope - that's not mine at all.

My gen. (7 days old) has a little triangular shaped container/box on the underside of the trunk lid. You pull down the cover - it unlatches at the top - and inside is a perfectly shaped enclosure just made for a fob - even has a patch of foam rubber about a half inch thick to hold it in place.

That would be for hanging the non existant emergency triangle hyundai forgot to produce. I presently use mine to hold a snow brush.

 

[kn5owa]

That would be for hanging the non existant emergency triangle hyundai forgot to produce. I presently use mine to hold a snow brush.

It would be one weird hanger then - mine is a little container designed to hold something inside. I'll take a pix if it ever gets above freezing.

 

[Midnightsun]

It would be one weird hanger then - mine is a little container designed to hold something inside. I'll take a pix if it ever gets above freezing.

This should help. http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=13698

For those who want a triangle, ebay has tons of them. I bought this one for $7 CDN delivered. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Foldable-Re...Parts_Accessories&hash=item485d9aa65a&vxp=mtr