My attempt at paddle shifters :D

[BStarr119]

Soon to have rev match capability on down shift and many more features to come! ^^

 

[BStarr119]

Another angle.

 

[daviderle]

Thats brilliant, well done...

Are they functional? did you tap into existing wiring?
Please do share some details

You are far ahead of me ...
I am still trying to find someone to install my wireless paddle shifters:

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=14366

 

[BStarr119]

Thats brilliant, well done...

Are they functional? did you tap into existing wiring?
Please do share some details

You are far ahead of me ...
I am still trying to find someone to install my wireless paddle shifters:

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=14366

Literally right now just flappy paddles haha, but once I connect the wiring they will be fully functional. Going to program a chip to listen to these paddles and temporerally switch to sport more if the down shift is pressed even though the car is in drive.
Sorry to here about the shops mate; these paddles were about 3 full days of non stop work to custom mount and install. The look is so worth it though and a plus is that the paddles feel like a 50 cal trigger pull

 

[xiaphin]

This might be as close to a manual as we are going to get in the Sedan unless someone really bites the bullet and tries to put a coupe transmission, pedal, harness, ECU and/or whatever else might be necessary.

In for the videos once the install is fully completed. Nice work.

 

[Tailwalker]

Very well done indeed. Can't wait to see how this goes once you get them fully functional

 

[dmitriylm]

Did anything ever come of this?

 

[84FordMan]

I don't think anything did. I am going a different direction for paddle shifters.

Snoopy Panda has discovered a few things about the AT operation in the Sedan and the Coupe, one of them being the manual shift mode is all electronic. Nothing physical happens when you move it from D to M, in fact, it is possible (through programming) to eliminate the physical aspect of moving the shifter into M for manual gear selection.

Take a look at the Coupe and Sedan clock springs, which is sandwiched between the steering wheel and air bag module and serves to connect everything electronic in the steering wheel. Tracking Hyundai's part numbers is almost useless as they will sometimes change part numbers with no revisions (Example being the BH sway bar end links, for 2012-2014 they changed the part number, but changed nothing physically, same links from 2009-2014). Let's look at Hyundai's diagram first:

Left is the Coupe and while it has one clock spring style saying "ESC", all Coupes had Electronic Stability Control. It really should say AT (Automatic Transmission) instead of ESC as only the automatics came with the paddle shifters, this being the only variance between the Coupe steering wheels other than with/without audio controls (To which it still uses the same clock spring). On the right is the Sedan and 93480A is listed as Rain Sensor, which it's not obviously the sensor itself, but rather just if it is equipped with auto-sensing wipers.

Now here is what the aftermarket shows, these are supposed to be for a BK1 Coupe with paddle shifters and BH 4.6 with rain-sensing wipers:

Top is Coupe and bottom is the Sedan. Same pin-out and connector on this side, both air bag leads are identical, despite wire colors being a little different. Now the other side:

Left is the Coupe and right is the Sedan. Again, same pin-out and connectors on this side except for the white one (Which Hyundai labeled as "ESC"). The Sedan one did not come with the "rain sensor", I guess BWD expects you to transfer over the old one. If you look closely at both clock springs you see where the "ESC" and "Rain Sensor" clip into the same spots.

So.. theory being the Coupe steering wheel should transfer over, air bag, clock spring and all. For Technology package Sedans the Sedan clock spring may have to be re-used. So not only can you, possibly, get a factory steering wheel with paddle shifter integration, you also have one that is better designed for performance driving and you have companies like Down South Kustoms offering perforated leather/Nappa leather/Alcantara wrap services:

The other unknown factor is how radar cruise control would function without a distance button.

 

[dmitriylm]

Nice work! I always assumed the up/down operation was all electronic so I figured it would be a matter of extending the wires to the steering wheel. With the clock spring being similar could we not swap over the coupe paddles even if the coupe wheel doesn't work out? I'd prefer the smaller coupe wheel but not at the loss of tech package functions.

 

[xiaphin]

I don't think anything did. I am going a different direction for paddle shifters.
The other unknown factor is how radar cruise control would function without a distance button.

Good thing I don't have the tech package. Should be a non issue. Great research and work Ed, are you trying to get this implemented for the tuning event in April?

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[Huddleston]

pretty cool - nice work!

 

[daviderle]

I don't think anything did. I am going a different direction for paddle shifters.

Snoopy Panda has discovered a few things about the AT operation in the Sedan and the Coupe, one of them being the manual shift mode is all electronic. Nothing physical happens when you move it from D to M, in fact, it is possible (through programming) to eliminate the physical aspect of moving the shifter into M for manual gear selection.

Take a look at the Coupe and Sedan clock springs, which is sandwiched between the steering wheel and air bag module and serves to connect everything electronic in the steering wheel. Tracking Hyundai's part numbers is almost useless as they will sometimes change part numbers with no revisions (Example being the BH sway bar end links, for 2012-2014 they changed the part number, but changed nothing physically, same links from 2009-2014). Let's look at Hyundai's diagram first:


Left is the Coupe and while it has one clock spring style saying "ESC", all Coupes had Electronic Stability Control. It really should say AT (Automatic Transmission) instead of ESC as only the automatics came with the paddle shifters, this being the only variance between the Coupe steering wheels other than with/without audio controls (To which it still uses the same clock spring). On the right is the Sedan and 93480A is listed as Rain Sensor, which it's not obviously the sensor itself, but rather just if it is equipped with auto-sensing wipers.

Now here is what the aftermarket shows, these are supposed to be for a BK1 Coupe with paddle shifters and BH 4.6 with rain-sensing wipers:


Top is Coupe and bottom is the Sedan. Same pin-out and connector on this side, both air bag leads are identical, despite wire colors being a little different. Now the other side:


Left is the Coupe and right is the Sedan. Again, same pin-out and connectors on this side except for the white one (Which Hyundai labeled as "ESC"). The Sedan one did not come with the "rain sensor", I guess BWD expects you to transfer over the old one. If you look closely at both clock springs you see where the "ESC" and "Rain Sensor" clip into the same spots.

So.. theory being the Coupe steering wheel should transfer over, air bag, clock spring and all. For Technology package Sedans the Sedan clock spring may have to be re-used. So not only can you, possibly, get a factory steering wheel with paddle shifter integration, you also have one that is better designed for performance driving and you have companies like Down South Kustoms offering perforated leather/Nappa leather/Alcantara wrap services:


The other unknown factor is how radar cruise control would function without a distance button.

Ed, please do not give up on the original idea, I still have a possible solution, unfortunately I can not find anyone who is willing to fit for me around Atlanta, so I still have this expensive kit sitting in the orginal box complete with instructions.

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=14366

I am willing to donate it science, ideally to be used in the monster that is being built by you guys, if you are interested to test it, please feel free to PM me.

 

[84FordMan]

Good thing I don't have the tech package. Should be a non issue. Great research and work Ed, are you trying to get this implemented for the tuning event in April?

To quote a friend of mine, I don't like to set deadlines, they only lead to disappointment

Everything is taking a back seat until the supercharger is done.

 

[xiaphin]

To quote a friend of mine, I don't like to set deadlines, they only lead to disappointment

Everything is taking a back seat until the supercharger is done.

Well said sir. Can't wait to see the supercharger setup in person in April.

 

[Tailwalker]

Well said sir. Can't wait to see the supercharger setup in person in April.

Me too!!!!