G90 Motor Trend Comparison - Genesis Wins!

[EdP]

G90 does well against the competition BMW, Lexus LS500, Mercedes, Lincoln Continental

http://www.motortrend.com/

Our brand of choice did good.

 

[riknchar]

Re: G90 Motor Trend comparison

Just read the article. Very nice!

I came to the G90 from a Lexus LS, and I can confirm that Genesis has slid nicely into the "old-school" luxury slot that Lexus has abandoned over the past several years in search of "sporty luxury" and younger target buyers. My 2008 LS 600hL was towards the last of the Lexus traditional conservative luxury cars (smooth, quiet, refined, understated elegance), and when I looked at the new LS models, especially those built after the 2013 redesign with the very fugly spindle grill gaping maw, I wasn't impressed.

For my money, the G90 hit all my "must haves" in a top dog luxury car, and at a WAY better price than any of the other luxury brands. I'm not trying to impress snobby people with my car nameplate, I'm simply trying to impress myself with the absolute best car for the buck, regardless of what emblem is on the hood.

 

[EdP]

Re: G90 Motor Trend comparison

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For my money, the G90 hit all my "must haves" in a top dog luxury car, and at a WAY better price than any of the other luxury brands. I'm not trying to impress snobby people with my car nameplate, I'm simply trying to impress myself with the absolute best car for the buck, regardless of what emblem is on the hood.

The same logic got me to the G80. I had one Mercedes that was somewhat of a money pit, Buicks that were falling apart. Almost bought an Avalon but did not like the deal. Walked across the street and really liked the value of a 2007 Sonata Limited. The G80 is the fifth of a series and a great car and good value.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Re: G90 Motor Trend comparison

I was just going to create this as a new topic but EdP beat me to it. In any event, here's some more opinion:

Hell has frozen over, and pigs now fly...

 

[Mike734]

I'm simply trying to impress myself with the absolute best car for the buck, regardless of what emblem is on the hood.

Yeah and besides, I like the hood emblem. I think Genesis will be a valuable brand some day but they have to fix the dealership issues quickly.

 

[Mcc]

There was a time when posters here did not even want to mention the Mercedes S class in the same sentence as the G90 and it would never take any sales from Mercedes. So it is a delight to read that “The Genesis G90 is not only a convincing S-Class alternative but is also a proper executive luxury sedan.”

I think the key here is “Value shouldn’t be a top concern in this segment, but it’s hard to ignore a car that competes so well yet still leaves enough money left over for a kitchen remodel or a Hyundai Sonata for your kid.”

After all, the rich don’t get richer by spending their money—and the Genesis G90 is not only a convincing S-Class alternative but is also a proper executive luxury sedan. Welcome to the club.

 

[efb]

Thank you for posting that link. I enjoyed reading it.

 

[Aquineas]

I've been waiting to see how the G90 compared to the new Lexus. Thanks for the link.

 

[YEH]

I think the key here is “Value shouldn’t be a top concern in this segment, but it’s hard to ignore a car that competes so well yet still leaves enough money left over for a kitchen remodel or a Hyundai Sonata for your kid.”

Think many are overlooking the importance of the value aspect (esp. for a new entrant and for that matter, any brand that isn't MB).

With the higher price-poiint, G80 sales have dipped some compared to the heights of the 1G Genesis.

Adding all the accoutrements of a luxury brand/dealer network requires raising the price and as can be attested in Lexus GS and LS sales (where sales have declined increasingly - corresponding with bringing less of a value quotient).

Now, the plus side to this - would be higher ATPs across the board.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

From a BMW blog, no less...

http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/12/18/bmw-740e-vs-lexus-lx-500-vs-genesis-g90-vs-lincoln-continental/

"Hyundai has been working very hard on giving the Genesis name as much weight and respect as Lexus and it just took it down in a Motor Trend test. While not perfect and only about 8/10ths as nice as a Lexus inside, it’s really impressive. The cabin is filled with rich materials, the build quality is at the top of the class and the G90 drives around with a supple calmness that’s reminiscent of the Stuttgart target everyone’s been aiming at. Plus, it’s the cheapest car in the test by almost $30,000."

8/10th of a Lexus inside, and the "LS 500 looks and feels so special". Not the only time I've read that. It's also been said to give the most expensive "feeling" to the driver. In other words, a feeling that you're truly driving a very expensive car. 8/10th of that in the G90 - which also has a build quality at the "top of the class"...

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[Mcc]

I find it interesting that they insist on call the Genesis a Hyundai but never refer to the Lexus as a Toyota.

I think the 8/10th reference is a bunch of baloney. They just want to negate what they have already said that it “has a build quality at the "top of the class"... Not NEAR the top. Sounds slanted to me.

 

[1FstYota]

Not sure what the hype for Lexus, I used to want a LS460, but after driving my roomates IS250 AWD (slower than retarded molasses), GS350 F Sport AWD (not enough punch or luxury feeling), and LS460 F Sport (just didn't seem right for what it supposed to be).

After those test drives, I feel Lexus was really disappointing maybe I just had to much of hype since it is a Lexus, and left me disappointed with each one.

 

[Gen127]

I find it interesting that they insist on call the Genesis a Hyundai but never refer to the Lexus as a Toyota.

I suppose it depends upon the forum, but I've read in a number of auto discussion forums (not Lexus) where members/owners disparagingly refer to any Lexus as just "Toyotas"—and I expect similar 'Hyundai' comments as they apply to Genesis.
The 'Toyota' reference was also quite common in print back in the early days when Lexus was establishing itself as a separate entity. There may come a time when Genesis articles and discussions will not a contain a single 'Hyundai' reference, but it'll take some time.

 

[Mcc]

Indubitably

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Not sure what the hype for Lexus, I used to want a LS460, but after driving my roomates IS250 AWD (slower than retarded molasses), GS350 F Sport AWD (not enough punch or luxury feeling), and LS460 F Sport (just didn't seem right for what it supposed to be).

After those test drives, I feel Lexus was really disappointing maybe I just had to much of hype since it is a Lexus, and left me disappointed with each one.

Lexus USED to be great. That's what "Genesis" is for now. Though the new LS is quite excellent...

 

[waveman]

Back in 2010, when I bought my first Genesis, there was talk that Hyundai dealers would have separate Genesis show areas and staff. That didn't happen, at least around here. But I think Hyundai thought that by selling cars for many thousands less than the established competition, they would attract buyers, build loyalty, and eventually spin off Genesis into a separate brand with its own dealerships. It took awhile, but it looks like that's what they're doing now. But even if Hyundai convinces dealers to build Genesis facilities, it's going to take time. Until then, people will buy Genesis from and have their cars serviced at Hyundai dealers. So it's not unexpected that reviewers and shoppers will continue to see Genesis through a Hyundai lens. That's different from Lexus, which was never sold at Toyota dealers as far as I know.

 

[riknchar]

I came to my G90 from a Lexus LS600hL (the $120K [when new] flagship of the Lexus brand), and I still hold Lexus in high regard for their great reliability and overall refinement. However, Lexus has made a choice to move away from traditional luxury and into the sporty/edgy side of the equation a bit too much for my taste. I really love the earlier Lexus cars, like the original LS and the SC 430 (V8 powered sports coupe with the retractable hardtop -- I own a 2006 SC 430 still, and wouldn't trade it for anything). Genesis G90s have really taken over the role of the old-school luxury car with great reliability and reasonable price.

I'm very active on the Lexus LS forum, and I can say that many of the members there are starting to express interest in the Genesis G90 as an alternative to the new Lexus LS. When I traded my LS600 in on the G90, and posted all about my experience on the Lexus forum, I had many members ask me to keep them posted on my Genesis experience, as they were also very interested to see how well the Genesis would hold up under real-world driving conditions. I think we'll see quite a few former Lexus LS drivers make the jump to Genesis over the next couple of years.

 

[EdP]

Back in 2010, when I bought my first Genesis, there was talk that Hyundai dealers would have separate Genesis show areas and staff. That didn't happen, at least around here.

The dealer where I bought my first Hyundai Genesis made improvements specifically because of Genesis. He added a building with auto opening garage door so you can drive inside to drop you car off for service. As for the showroom, there is only space for so many cars. The only way you can really segregate a special area would be to put some lines on the floor with duct tape. There is no more land available to expand where he is. Given that he owns 42 dealerships (every brand but Subaru, a story in itself) I'm sure he will have a Genesis at some time.

 

[PMCErnie]

Here's a better link to the story.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/gene...vs-genesis-g90-33t-vs-lincoln-continental-30/

 

[Aquineas]

The G90 seems to be making a bit of a splash over on the Lexus forums.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car-chat/836294-genesis-g90-reviews.html

You can also find many comparative references in this behemoth of a thread.