advice on V6 or V8 and Aftermarket support

[2i2dk1ny2i3]

hi guys, new member...been lurking for a bit...lol

couple concerns

1. i Test drove the V8 and fell in love w/the performance. haven't driven the V6 but i can't see myself going V6 if Fuel Economy isn't too different between them

i am in the same position right now, i drive a 2003 Honda Accord V6 over the 4 cylinder model and am please to have gone with the V6



2. from what i have read, Aftermarket support is near to none but it CAN be done. obviously coming from a Honda, it wouldn't be nearly as big but oddly enough, the 7th Gen. Accord didn't get much Aftermarket support as previous Generations so no biggie if it can be done custom or otherwise



3. my other main concern is the sheer number of used Accords makes it much easier to source parts if needed.

how easy is it to say head to the local Junk Yard or Salvage Yard and find a Genesis?


any help is much appreciated

 

[ohiostateno1]

Are you looking into a first gen or second? 4.6 or 5.0? Around my parts, you're not going to find a gen in the junk yard..

As far as fuel economy my '11 4.6 consistently gets 18 in town and 25+ on the free way. I hear the 3.8 isn't that much more fuel efficient, not enough to suede me toward V6 personally.

The aftermarket really isn't HUGE for the gen, but it's there... no real, massively produced, pocket economical power adders for the V8's.. now, that 3.8 has a lot more aftermarket options being that it was used in the coupe too. as far as cosmetic mods for the gen, there are some but not a whole lot easily accessible, makes you make the car your own..

Coming from an 03 accord the differences are going to be so overwhelming you probably wont get bored with it for a few months.. long enough to plot your future moves..

Hope to see you in a Gen soon, absolutely loving mine.. Goodluck!

 

[AgentSmith007]

What generation of Genesis are you looking at?
G1 (2009-2014) or G2 (2015-2018)?
And what is your budget?

Here is the list of cars that I owned since I came to America in 1991:

'84 Toyota Cressida Station Wagon (I6)
'83 Toyota Cressida Sedan (I6)
'89 Toyota Cressida Sedan (I6)
'95 Toyota Avalon Sedan (V6)
'08 Hyundai Azera (V6)
'11 Genesis 4.6 (V8)

If I decide to sell or trade my 4.6 I will buy 13-14 Genesis R-spec 5.0 or G90 5.0 (only if I hit lottery jackpot). I am not going back to V6 engines, even twin turbos.

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As far as fuel economy my '11 4.6 consistently gets 18 in town and 25+ on the free way.

I get the same, and I think it is amazing mileage for V8 engine.

 

[Gunkk]

There isn'treally any aftermarket in the states for engine/tuning the sedan. You're mostly limited to t
cosmetics and suspension. Most sedan AM stuff will be Korean... e.g. GarciaFactory.

There is much more AM out there for the coupe

 

[Mark_888]

What kind of after-market support do you need? My Genesis came standard with everything I needed, such as engine, transmission, brakes, steering wheel, wheels, etc.

 

[EdP]

I've always opted for the optional larger engine in the past. My Sonatas were either the V6 or the 2.0 4 cylinder with turbo. With the Genesis, I'm very content with the standard 3.8 V6. Not sure of the top speed, but it easily get to 100+ and I've never had a problem getting on the highway at 75. I'm no longer a teenager so stoplight drags are in my past, though I did best a Ram pickup with a V8 recently. He should not have been in that lane anyway.

You won't find many Gennys in the junkyards yet. They have been on the lower end of the sales spectrum, but there are some.

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What kind of after-market support do you need? My Genesis came standard with everything I needed, such as engine, transmission, brakes, steering wheel, wheels, etc.

We've become old farts, I think. I'd have not thought that way in 1963.

 

[Mark_888]

We've become old farts, I think. I'd have not thought that way in 1963.

I think it is more that I now understand now that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. With modern vehicles, there is much greater likelihood that one will do more harm than good by making any changes.

There are plenty of other hobbies one can do other than try to fix things that aren't broken.

 

[AgentSmith007]

We've become old farts, I think. I'd have not thought that way in 1963.

Come on, Edp. Look what Antonio Banderas says at 1 minute 11 seconds into the video:

[video=youtube_share;qaeidhBUF-0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaeidhBUF-0&feature=youtu.be&t=1m11s[/video]

 

[EdP]

Come on, Edp. Look what Antonio Banderas says at 1 minute 11 seconds into the video:

True. My state of mind does not let me climb down a building like that now either.

 

[tuckerdog1]

I did best a Ram pickup with a V8 recently

Ram trucks..the only vehicle I know of, where the HEMI is the downgrade.

With modern vehicles, there is much greater likelihood that one will do more harm than good by making any changes.

Sure been down that road. Spend a suitcase full of money & make it worse. The only mod I'm doing is the wing on the trunk.

Tuckerdog1

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[Parasurfer1979]

Ram trucks..the only vehicle I know of, where the HEMI is the downgrade.



Sure been down that road. Spend a suitcase full of money & make it worse. The only mod I'm doing is the wing on the trunk.

Tuckerdog1

I totally agree. I ordered the lip spoiler and doing the relapsed ecu and I'm done. I'm not looking to make a luxury car sound like Mustang GT. Just youtube it

 

[Audio]

Everyone has hit the aftermarket thing pretty well: There isn't much. It's not a car that you buy to tinker with unless you have deep enough pockets to pioneer things like turbo/supercharge fitments etc etc. There are no off the shelf "kits" for much more than basic suspension, some retrofit brake upgrades, and ECU flashes. I am content with my V8/Tech Package combo and a muffler delete. The rest of the exhaust keeps it very tame and manageable for me. I'll buy a project car if I get the urge to **** with something again.

The real advice I have though, if you're looking for a first gen 4.6: Get a 2011+. They upgraded the valve springs mid-late 2010 which cures the only major debilitating drivetrain issue I know of on these things.

 

[2i2dk1ny2i3]

Are you looking into a first gen or second? 4.6 or 5.0? Around my parts, you're not going to find a gen in the junk yard..

As far as fuel economy my '11 4.6 consistently gets 18 in town and 25+ on the free way. I hear the 3.8 isn't that much more fuel efficient, not enough to suede me toward V6 personally.

The aftermarket really isn't HUGE for the gen, but it's there... no real, massively produced, pocket economical power adders for the V8's.. now, that 3.8 has a lot more aftermarket options being that it was used in the coupe too. as far as cosmetic mods for the gen, there are some but not a whole lot easily accessible, makes you make the car your own..

Coming from an 03 accord the differences are going to be so overwhelming you probably wont get bored with it for a few months.. long enough to plot your future moves..

Hope to see you in a Gen soon, absolutely loving mine.. Goodluck!

2011 so i believe that is 1st gen? 4.6L. yeah, i would imagine if i lived back in SoCal or NYC, that would be my best odds


18 city / 25 hwy isn't too bad
the 2003 Accord V6 comes in at 21 city / 30 hwy. the 4 cyl. gets awesome gas mileage but a bore to drive probably



thats awesome to hear that the 3.8 to 4.6 isn't a dramatic change like it is for the V6 Accord to the 4 cyl.


yeah, getting a 3.8 but with a larger aftermarket vs. a 4.6 w/far less aftermarket support, i would choose the latter

my hope is to KDM like JDM but hopefully cheaper since i have family who reside in Korea


i agree, i think i would have a blast w/it for a while...one thing i did notice is that it does feel big and i didn't get a chance to see how it handles the corners


Accord was like a "boat on water" but i did the Acura TL-S Sway Bar upgrades and it was like night and day


i'm still debating...not sure if buying a Car is the best choice for me and my future plans

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What generation of Genesis are you looking at?
G1 (2009-2014) or G2 (2015-2018)?
And what is your budget?

Here is the list of cars that I owned since I came to America in 1991:

'84 Toyota Cressida Station Wagon (I6)
'83 Toyota Cressida Sedan (I6)
'89 Toyota Cressida Sedan (I6)
'95 Toyota Avalon Sedan (V6)
'08 Hyundai Azera (V6)
'11 Genesis 4.6 (V8)

If I decide to sell or trade my 4.6 I will buy 13-14 Genesis R-spec 5.0 or G90 5.0 (only if I hit lottery jackpot). I am not going back to V6 engines, even twin turbos.

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I get the same, and I think it is amazing mileage for V8 engine.

i think 2011 4.6 so thats a 1st gen?

budget i would say its in line with what i can afford. my current vehicle is paid off but not worth much (high miles). i would see around $1,000-2,000 for all the aftermarket upgrades on my Accord


thats how i feel, i came from a 4 cyl. sports car to a V6 and will never go back to a 4 cyl. (the only HUGE discrepency to ever get a 4 cyl. would be a Evolution)

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There isn'treally any aftermarket in the states for engine/tuning the sedan. You're mostly limited to t
cosmetics and suspension. Most sedan AM stuff will be Korean... e.g. GarciaFactory.

There is much more AM out there for the coupe

i have family in Korea and hopefully that could make the KDM market much more accessible for me


Cosmetic and Suspension is fine, plus aftermarket Wheels

i think i would go more of a VIP look than pure performance but there are some modified Genesis like these 2 that sound awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqM6DdCP0VM&t=9s


sound starts at 5:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGEmiBqhOs&t=370s

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What kind of after-market support do you need? My Genesis came standard with
everything I needed, such as engine, transmission, brakes, steering wheel, wheels, etc.

i have always been a modifier

i.e. my Accord V6 sits w/

Perf.
straight pipe w/dual Borla Mufflers
J Pipe from Tsudo
PreCat Deletes from RV6
4" Custom Intake

basic weight reduction stuff

Big Brake Kit

18" Wheels

and a bunch of other stuff it would take a while to list


i understand the Genesis, like most Luxury Sedans come pretty much with everything you need. i would just like to see if there would be any aftermarket support for it

 

[2i2dk1ny2i3]

I've always opted for the optional larger engine in the past. My Sonatas were either the V6 or the 2.0 4 cylinder with turbo. With the Genesis, I'm very content with the standard 3.8 V6. Not sure of the top speed, but it easily get to 100+ and I've never had a problem getting on the highway at 75. I'm no longer a teenager so stoplight drags are in my past, though I did best a Ram pickup with a V8 recently. He should not have been in that lane anyway.

You won't find many Gennys in the junkyards yet. They have been on the lower end of the sales spectrum, but there are some.

sorry but I could not post anymore until now.

Thanks again for your advice...i don't think i would be happy w/the 3.6 - if anything i would probably get the V8 or not one at all

True. My state of mind does not let me climb down a building like that now either.

lol i agree...i feel younger but my body tells me i'm older when i try and do certain young man things

Everyone has hit the aftermarket thing pretty well: There isn't much. It's not a car that you buy to tinker with unless you have deep
enough pockets to pioneer things like turbo/supercharge fitments etc etc. There are no off the shelf "kits" for much more than basic suspension, some
retrofit brake upgrades, and ECU flashes. I am content with my V8/Tech Package combo and a muffler delete. The rest of the exhaust keeps it very tame and
manageable for me. I'll buy a project car if I get the urge to **** with something again.

The real advice I have though, if you're looking for a first gen 4.6: Get a 2011+. They upgraded the valve springs mid-late 2010 which cures the only major debilitating drivetrain issue I know of on these things.

definitely won't be pioneering anything, main flaw..i don't live in SoCal where most big aftermarket companies reside. i used to actually own a import

aftermarket parts business and did make some connections back in the day


i think my main upgrades would be:

try and get the Headlights from the Prada edition, i hear its like $2,000ish but hopefully cheaper now and even more so buying it directly from Korea


Exhaust, i want a meaner sound and i think starting Exhaust cut-out, Muffler deletes, straight pipe, etc. depending on sound at each step


i'd imagine custom making an Intake system hopefully wouldn't be too involved as i've done it on my Accord w/help from a Member

 

[Volfy]

LOL... I can see why some folks would compare an Accord to the Genesis. Honda might have copied the Genesis's looks, but they can't make a FWD car drive like a RWD.

Compared to the Hyundai Veracruz and Kia Sedona with the 3.8L Lambda V6 we've had, the Genesis sedan feels so much peppier. Even my wife, who is not really a "car person", liked how much livelier it feels. However, everybody's expectations are different. The only person that can say whether the V6 or V8 is the right choice is YOU.

 

[Audio]

since you mentioned exhaust, here is a relatively crappy video at a terrible angle that I took of my exhaust. It is a 4.6 with mufflers deleted. No other modifications:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPm9nzx8c58

 

[Mark_888]

Thanks again for your advice...i don't think i would be happy w/the 3.6 - if anything i would probably get the V8 or not one at all

The Genesis V6 is a 3.8, not a 3.6.

Good thing you are not shopping for a new Mercedes E class. They now only offer a 2.0L 4 cylinder turbo as biggest engine (unless you get a 4Matic or AMG version).

BMW still has a 6 cylinder on their 5 class, but most of them sold have the 4 cylinder 2.0L turbo. The M class 550 does have a V8.

There won't be many V6's left in a few years, much less a V8, except in rare cases.

 

[Audio]

There won't be many V6's left in a few years, much less a V8, except in rare cases.

Ain't that the truth. My wife's Sonata for instance. She LOVES her 2006 V6 Sonata. We were shopping for a replacement Sonata but her absolute best bet is the turbo 2.0L on a newer one. Granted, the 2.0T is just as good and more efficient but it's clear the bigger displacement engines are going bye-bye in a hurry.

 

[EdP]

We were shopping for a replacement Sonata but her absolute best bet is the turbo 2.0L on a newer one. Granted, the 2.0T is just as good and more efficient but it's clear the bigger displacement engines are going bye-bye in a hurry.

I had that in my 2013 Sonata. It had a little more punch than the V-6 of previous models. Did me good for 70,000 miles when I traded it.